john schmidt

[MahnaMahna]

This entire thread reminds me of a happening.

Years ago, Keith McCready used to write an instructional one-page article for InsidePOOL magazine. He usually tried to come up with a story of a happening to him personally in his life to complement the instructuional article. Of course, I helped him write it, to make sure all the "t's" were crossed and "i's" dotted. I then had a co-worker of mine, who knew NOTHING about pool, proofread and edit the article for comprehension. Then, after the article was submitted to the magazine, it would have to be edited and proofed again by the editor or editing staff at the magazine.

One day, Keith got a call from the magazine and was informed that another contributing writer of the magazine, not a player themselves, stated that Keith's shot could not be executed the way Keith described it in his article.

A back-and-forth colloquy ensued. The editor, of course, only wanted the article to be accurate. Keith was upset that somebody else would state that the shot couldn't be executed the way he descirbed, when he'd made the shot a kazillion times himself. I made him set it up for me, just to be sure he was describing it right.

Finally, Keith spoke to the magazine staff and said he was standing by his shot description, which ended up not being changed in the article.

After he hung up the phone, he said to me, "That guy might think he can make the shot his way, but how many tournaments do you think that guy's won in his lifetime? How much money has he made gambling?"

The answer was, of course, a big goose egg. :grin:

Maybe someone could talk John's girlfriend into posting here instead of John, that is just what we need more of.....

 

[mikeyfrost]

when john is sitting there thinking i hate to leave azb because he likes 99 percent.
its people like this that make him know hes making the right decision ..

He deserves it. If you can't do what JS can do than you are no longer entitled to an opinion. That's how John gets down and while I never went at him before, I see why he's an easy target. Only Problem is SA and company happen to have good aim, so he took a few shots. The bushes are a better place for him anyway.

 

[bfdlad]

Here is a story about people wanting to take shots at pro players. I am not saying anything about Hu or Russ here cos I didn't read the other thread. I just know that it has been mentioned in this thread about pros coming on here and getting a bunch of crap from people. He is a clsassic story that shows this.

I was in San Francisco with Earl Strickland. We were holding a pool school there. So as I was getting the students together and sorting them into their groups, Earl was practicing one of his stroke shots that is almost unreal to see. Well the students came over to start the session with Earl and were watching him make this shot. acouple of them were in awe of the shot but one of them simply said in a loud voice, "Thats just a simple 4 rail shot. Earl looks right at the guy (In Earls classic confused look) And says "Here you do it then" Well the guy couldn't even make the ball, let alone make the cue ball spin around the table the way he did.

So after 4 or 5 attempts, he gives up and they start with the school. The whole time he is still yapping about how the shot isn't that hard and that its a just a 4 rail shot and Earl is getting wound up and explaining that hit took him months to be able to make the shot and that is was not obviously as easy as it looked.

The class took a 5 min break and so I took the opportunity to pull the guy to one side. I said "Listen man, you got to leave it alone. You know how Earl can get wound up, besides it isn't an easy shot because you obviously can't make it and you are not going to win this argument" He looked at me a littleamazed and said with a straight face. "WIN the argument?? win the argument? I'm not trying to with the argument, do you believe I'm actually arguing with Earl F&%king Strickland though?? this class has already paid for itself"

So the guy was getting more out of winding Earl up than he was out of the class. I guess that some people get more out of the attention they get from the pros even if its negative attention that they do just listening and learning maybe.

AGAIN, this is not directed at Hu or Russ as I have never had a problem that I know of with them and I don't know what happened in the other thread.

 

[corvette1340]

Maybe someone could talk John's girlfriend into posting here instead of John, that is just what we need more of.....

lollerpost of the year candidate.

 

[Neil]

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[JAM]

Maybe someone could talk John's girlfriend into posting here instead of John, that is just what we need more of.....

You mean so multiple-identited trolls and banned members can take potshots at them? Not such a good idea, but good try at a flame.

 

[JAM]

lollerpost of the year candidate.

You two do have quite a lot in common.

 

[MahnaMahna]

You two do have quite a lot in common.

You mean the fact that we actually play pool?

 

[bfdlad]

Everyone is entitled to their oppinion obviously. Here is another quick snippet for what its worth and I guess its about picking your battles.

We were on a road trip and Archer and Strickland were having a semi heated conversation about pool. I really don't remember what it was to be honest, I have actually told this story before though.

I decided to jump into this chat and give my opinion to the situation, anyone who knows me can tell you I ain't a bad player. So I interupted and gave my 2 cents. In a very nice wat I was basically told "just sit and listen you don't know what you are talking about" . Now if I was talking to Hu, Russ, jason Crugar, BVAL or many other posters on here I would say "F U, I have a very good point here" However for a second the anger boiled up inside me (Maybe a pride thing) and I was getting ready to re argue my point. Then I realized who I was talking to. I realized that I had never won a U.S Open, a world title or any major Pro pool event against the greatest players in the world. The anger subsided and I thought to myself "Yeah, compaired the these guys, I really don't know what I am talking about and maybe its better if I just listen and maybe lean something here" Now to me Yeah, I am entitled to my opinion but what are the chances that they are mre informed than me??

The wise old owl sat in the tree. The less he said, the more he heard. The more he heard the more he learned, The more he learned, the less he said.

 

[Neil]

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[Mowem down]

This place is one big.....

Sandbox to begin with.... John is no less or more perfect then anybody on here...I said in my very first post i fyou want to know whats wrong with pool just come on here...Was it not just last week there was a thread bashing Jack Justis, are you kidding....There are all kinds on here from Terry A. to Ross and most fit somewhere in the middle... John like Me and many have fallen into the AZ trap once or twice but like Ive said befor its hard to always get the point when you cant hear or see the way the people are talking, type comes accross plain jane.

I gave him some sh*t he gave some back most of the dirt was in PMs so you hounds arnt privy to it but at the end of it, I said I apologize, he said he was sorry and its done.

If I was a John or any other pro that wanted to come on here and try to give a little of my knowledge it wouldnt be the personal debates that kept me away it would be all the kindergarden sand throwing that goes on that would do it... Make your point and shut your mouth, if someone dont agree oh well.

as far as him leaving dont by it, hes here right now read this thinking god damn that Dave is even smarter than I thought....He'll post again you cant get away from here its like a crazy ex-girlfriend it just hunts you down...

P.S. John, just so you know you were right I can do most things ok from the start. For some reason I just cant play pool worth a sh*t, But if I was as good at it as I am at lawn care (i.e. leaf raking) they wouldnt even have tourneys they would just send me the checks...LOL....

 

[Celtic]

With all due respect to those two, whichever one said it is a fool. Just because you don't have ALL the pieces to the puzzle, doesn't mean you don't have any of them.

You yourself don't have a clue what they were debating Neil, they might have been talking about ways to handle a specific pressure situation in a US Open Final or the way to mentally prepare to play Efren for $10,000 straight up in the Phillipines. And at a point like either of those debates Joe Schmoe and his own experience getting 4th in the singles in Vegas one year has no concept of what it would be like for a World Champion who has at times in their lives been at the absolute pinnicle and who competes against people who make each error at the table equal multiple games.

Tyring to butt in on a conversasion those two are having about pool if you are anything less then a true professional (and even most pro's are not THAT level of pro) is much like a guy with a 95 IQ, 11th grade education, and who works as a gas jockey trying to butt in on a conversasion two 140+ IQ people with PHD's are having about quantum physics. You are probably NOT going to accidently rewrite the theory of relativity or disprove a Newtonian law.

And don't start thinking about Good Will Hunting, I stated the IQ for a reason, there probably is a 11th grade dropout who has some 2 bit job that actually COULD step into that discussion because he just so happens to have a 150+ IQ and unfortunately also has a personality disorder (common amoung the ridiculously smart) which masks the intelligence within.

 

[Neil]

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[Cashrider]

"won't you come home john sschmidtty-won't you come home /"

We know we done you wrr-ooong.....

And yes John this is your home[family] . And like your real home /family you can't choose family - some family menbers are more "trying" than others.

Yer one of the clan thats done good- and we point to you when outsiders say "pool is for losers -ya can't make a livin at it"

Never met ya John -but l've seen some of your videos where your teaching some student in a bar...

You showed patience -wisdom and a sense of humor to boot.

Where ever you travels take ya always remember - Your Family got yer back
and not to contest the point made by writer James Agee saying you can never go home again........

[see full quote below]

It's From "A Death in the Family" by James Agee.
The full quote is

"How far we all come. How far we all come away from ourselves. You can never go home again."


.......that being said John - perhaps you can stop in for a visit every now and again.

 

[Roy Steffensen]

Everyone is entitled to their oppinion obviously. Here is another quick snippet for what its worth and I guess its about picking your battles.

We were on a road trip and Archer and Strickland were having a semi heated conversation about pool. I really don't remember what it was to be honest, I have actually told this story before though.

I decided to jump into this chat and give my opinion to the situation, anyone who knows me can tell you I ain't a bad player. So I interupted and gave my 2 cents. In a very nice wat I was basically told "just sit and listen you don't know what you are talking about" . Now if I was talking to Hu, Russ, jason Crugar, BVAL or many other posters on here I would say "F U, I have a very good point here" However for a second the anger boiled up inside me (Maybe a pride thing) and I was getting ready to re argue my point. Then I realized who I was talking to. I realized that I had never won a U.S Open, a world title or any major Pro pool event against the greatest players in the world. The anger subsided and I thought to myself "Yeah, compaired the these guys, I really don't know what I am talking about and maybe its better if I just listen and maybe lean something here" Now to me Yeah, I am entitled to my opinion but what are the chances that they are mre informed than me??

The wise old owl sat in the tree. The less he said, the more he heard. The more he heard the more he learned, The more he learned, the less he said.

But doesn't your story actually say that the top players might be wrong about a subject too?

Because if the two top playes in your car can't agree on a subject, one of them must be mistaken, so why should we always assume that the top pro talking about pool right now is 100 % correct?

Roy
wants the funny posts from John Schmidt back to the forum

 

[akaTrigger]

This is from the thread, his last post:

Originally Posted by john schmidt
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all you losers that live with your mommies ,who couldnt get laid if i sent you too an island full of swine flu victims with the h1n1 vaccine in your dick,who have a shoe size bigger than their high run in 14.1,who say they will be pro in 2 years even though after 15 years are still an apa 5 ,can all eat shit.im done with wannabeville.
im only speaking too 1 percent on here but you know who you are.

Uh oh, I live with my Mom.

 

[bfdlad]

You are right in that I don't know just what they were talking about. But, I stand by my assessment. For them to think that they have all the answers, and bfdlad cannot possibly be able to give any input without even hearing him out, is foolish. Now, once he said his piece, they are free to tell him he doesn't know anything, but not until then.

Actually, thats is what happened. I did say my piece was was POLITLY told that I didn't know what I was talking about. I don't feel insulted or that my opinion does not mean anything because in a couple of situations regarding pool I have been asked my opinion by these guys. Just certain topics as Celtic said I just could not have a real opinion having never done it or been in that position. Hey I just feel privilaged that I have been able to listen in to conversations between Archer, Varner, Strickland AND John Schmidt. It really is awesome to just soak in the stories, the experiences and the feelings that I will never get the chance to experience first hand.

 

[Celtic]

Now, once he said his piece, they are free to tell him he doesn't know anything, but not until then.

Keep in mind this is exactly what happend...

I decided to jump into this chat and give my opinion to the situation, anyone who knows me can tell you I ain't a bad player. So I interupted and gave my 2 cents. In a very nice wat I was basically told "just sit and listen you don't know what you are talking about" .

Bleh, bfdlad is teh quick!

 

[Cashrider]

"won't you come home john sschmidtty-won't you come home /"

We know we done you wrr-ooong.....

And yes John this is your home[family] . And like your real home /family you can't choose family - some family menbers are more "trying" than others.

Yer one of the clan thats done good- and we point to you when outsiders say "pool is for losers -ya can't make a livin at it"

Never met ya John -but l've seen some of your videos where your teaching some student in a bar...

You showed patience -wisdom and a sense of humor to boot.

Where you travels take ya always remember - Your Family got yer back
and not to contest the point made by writer James Agee saying you can never go home again........

[see full quote below]

It's From "A Death in the Family" by James Agee.
The full quote is

"How far we all come. How far we all come away from ourselves. You can never go home again."


.......that being said John - perhaps you can stop in for a visit every now and again.

 

[bfdlad]

Uh oh, I live with my Mom.

Trigger, you live with your mom??? you must be loaded. Hey come to AZ and live with me if you want Unfortunatly the weather is a little predictable here but that will make your job easy right?