Judd Trump to play U.S. Open.................
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Yup, might want to check out Tony Drago:
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If you could get the other Trump to play, thousands would attend. 
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Just saying. Emily Frazer is already hinting about it in interviews. It’ll likely coming. Matchroom seems to promote all their events equally in terms of promoting them all to the maximum.
It’s likely an easier travel for anyone from Europe and Asia. You could get a lot of world class players with less hassle. You might get a stronger field to show up. I don’t think it’s about how they push it. I think it simply has a logistical advantage that could evolve it their organically over time.
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As an experiment in promotion, Judd appearance has clearly been a massive hit. I’m sure there are plenty of UK Pool fans who love the game, but even the World Championship was very much under the radar. Matchroom know what they are doing, having Judd involved has created lots of buzz. Now everyone it seems with passing interest in cue sports knows about the event. Which I’m sure will equal more armchair interest.
Regarding a potential UK Open, if Matchroom are looking to grow the game, then they need to create and foundation of “major” tournaments to expand the game from. If the had a World Championship, US Open and UK Open, then you have a springboard to success.
If you look back over the history of Snooker, in the good times and bad, one big benefit has been to have three tournaments that have always been on the calendar and in the public consciousness. Those being the Masters the UK and the Worlds. Although this happened more by luck than design having these events as a constant and always available on the BBC always kept the game in the public eye. You can argue they acted as a foundation that the rest of the tour built on to create the multi million pound circuit we have today.
It takes time but this is possible, as the more I look into Pool history the more I find. Obviously the Mosconi Cup seems a massive event, but in its infancy this was built (at least on this side on the Atlantic) on Snooker players participating to generate interest. Now it stands on its own history as a big event. There is no reason not to use the same model again, get Snooker players in to help create interest, get more people watching. Then eventually the event stands on its own merits.
There is a challenge fitting such a tournament into an already packed calendar but If Matchroom can do the same and create some big “major” events, then Pool has the potential to become a big money spinning sport.
The other point that occurs to me looking back at recent history is just how badly the game has been run up to this point. Another poster replied to me saying that before Matchroom got involved the last few world championships were held in a warehouse in the Middle East. Which a quick look at YouTube shows a tournament in a soulless warehouse with zero atmosphere. This to me is decision making bordering on lunacy and incompetence at the highest level. If Pool is to grow, then whoever is running the game has been holding it back, and needs to just worry about managing the rules and let, people who understand business run the tournaments.
Regarding a potential UK Open, if Matchroom are looking to grow the game, then they need to create and foundation of “major” tournaments to expand the game from. If the had a World Championship, US Open and UK Open, then you have a springboard to success.
If you look back over the history of Snooker, in the good times and bad, one big benefit has been to have three tournaments that have always been on the calendar and in the public consciousness. Those being the Masters the UK and the Worlds. Although this happened more by luck than design having these events as a constant and always available on the BBC always kept the game in the public eye. You can argue they acted as a foundation that the rest of the tour built on to create the multi million pound circuit we have today.
It takes time but this is possible, as the more I look into Pool history the more I find. Obviously the Mosconi Cup seems a massive event, but in its infancy this was built (at least on this side on the Atlantic) on Snooker players participating to generate interest. Now it stands on its own history as a big event. There is no reason not to use the same model again, get Snooker players in to help create interest, get more people watching. Then eventually the event stands on its own merits.
There is a challenge fitting such a tournament into an already packed calendar but If Matchroom can do the same and create some big “major” events, then Pool has the potential to become a big money spinning sport.
The other point that occurs to me looking back at recent history is just how badly the game has been run up to this point. Another poster replied to me saying that before Matchroom got involved the last few world championships were held in a warehouse in the Middle East. Which a quick look at YouTube shows a tournament in a soulless warehouse with zero atmosphere. This to me is decision making bordering on lunacy and incompetence at the highest level. If Pool is to grow, then whoever is running the game has been holding it back, and needs to just worry about managing the rules and let, people who understand business run the tournaments.
Steve Davis did more than OK. Davis is arguably the greatest safety player of all time (although Selby might be now nudging him out) and that would have given him a step up in adapting to the thinking element of rotation pool. But I think Judd Trump would be more of a natural on a pool table with his stroke. I'd give him a 40% chance against most pro speed players in a race to 9 or 11. So yes, this makes him a huge underdog in a tournament but if he is coming to play he will win some matches.
I think he's going to be using his snooker cues, and the promo videos he did were just playing around with whatever cue was at the promo facility. I play pool, 3C, and even the bigger korean 4 ball billiard game just fine with my pool cue.
I'd be curious if him playing in this event was part of the reason they changed the break rules. For the best players, him included, the preliminary stage of this event is going to nearly be a coin-flip.
I'm sure given a month he will be able to figure out how to get shape on the one after the break while the wired wing ball goes in. There will be very little safety play involved as well as the spreads will be very predictable. Judd will be a very difficult out in this format.
I'm sure given a month he will be able to figure out how to get shape on the one after the break while the wired wing ball goes in. There will be very little safety play involved as well as the spreads will be very predictable. Judd will be a very difficult out in this format.
it's the same break rule as 2017. and iirc the rule was the same even before matchroom bought it. imo it's not possible to master the break, jumping, kicking within weeks, let alone transitioning to bigger diameter balls (and possibly cue tip size). trump has slim chances against a high fargo player.
Some snooker players will take to 9-ball very quickly. After all, the outs are like running the colors.
The jumping will be tough...but Efren survived without jumping much. Any top snooker player is a good kicker. The adjustment to pool rails is not that big. It’s packs from top players that’s gonna hurt him
No surprise. Judd will be on the TV table tomorrow. Looks like the 3rd match if I'm looking at the schedule correctly
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It will be interesting to see if he misses a few shots. I don’t think Ronnie missed a single ball vs Archer at the IPT in 8 ball, but his break absolutely killed him.No surprise. Judd will be on the TV table tomorrow. Looks like the 3rd match if I'm looking at the schedule correctly
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No surprise. Judd will be on the TV table tomorrow. Looks like the 3rd match if I'm looking at the schedule correctly
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Joe Magee is Trumps first opponent. I wonder how good he is. I searched his name on fargo rate and came up dry. I wonder if he is extra nervous that he will be the center of attention due to his opponent, or is thrilled about it.
There's an interview with him somewhere in this thread. He owns a pool room. Most pool room owners I've known are pretty good, but he also said he just started playing like 4 years ago.
Edit: I think he might just own a regular bar. Not a pool room.
Not sure if you saw these two short videos with Joe Magee, but they could give some very, very rough indication of his skill level. It isn't much to go on but my best guess is that he could fall anywhere along the line in the 530-630 fargo range, and probably isn't a short stop. Seems to be having fun with the whole thing though. Also looks like he is fairly local to your old stomping grounds, so one of your buddies back home may know of him and have a better line on his play. Share if you hear more. Or maybe 9andout, who posted the second link and seems to know or at least be familiar with him, will share. Personally I hope he does well in the match.
Judd Trump to play U.S. Open.................
Any thoughts? Shoots straighter than Dick Tracy. Can he win a match or two?
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We have a local guy that drew Judd Trump first round. SO great. We are having a great time with it! Go Joe Magee! Like Rocky vs Apollo lol! Owner of a great local bar. Marty Magee's!🍻
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He is just winging it really. It's only happening cause there is no snooker tournament for 1 month, so he is available. He usually goes to Greece or Spain in September but this time Matchroom convinced him otherwise probably with financial incentive, but also he loves travelling with his brother and mates so Atlantic City is probably an attractive destination for him and his crew - I expect them to party every night (even during tournament days).
At best he's got about 2 weeks of practice, including a few days with a pro (Karl Boyes).
Another reason I'd say he is just winging it is that there is no incentive for him to switch to pool and take it seriously. The lowest cash prize in snooker is the size of the highest cash prize in pool. When he won the world championship he made about 700k USD and about 1.5mil USD in one single season. To put this in context, I believe only 4 pool players have made that much in their whole career ... (Efren, SVB, Mika, Dennis)
Now he is still a competitor at heart, so once at the table he will take it seriously and try his hardest, and with his skills anything can happen ...