Just asked to have both my accounts deleted

Yes, we are losing people on here sometimes, but not so many as you might think. The good news is that we are adding people at a faster rate. I just read good posts by Meucciplayer (joined 2017) and jrctherake (joined 2016) and they are both relatively new to this forum. Just like in any other business, there is a turnover of clientele and employees. That's a natural phenomena and to be expected.

In poolrooms that I've owned I was always surprised when one of my regulars quit coming in. I would inquire of people who knew him (or her) and there was almost always a good reason. They may have moved, got a more demanding job or found other interests like a new girl friend. :rolleyes:

Same with employees. I had many that stayed with me for the duration of the business, but others who moved on for various reasons. And yes, I had to fire a couple as well.
 
Ahh the FACTS were there :

Meucciplayer said:
We have two examples here: ShortBusRuss feels offended by trentfromtoledo and in a thread he mentioned another thread in which trent supposedly was extremely rude. I read that thread out of curiosity. I did not notice anything that I would have taken too seriously. OTOH, ShortBusRuss did make some harsh comments himself.
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I never had any past issues with this guy. Never cussed at him, never lied to him or threatened him in the thread Muecciplayer mentioned above.

I guess I must have learned to follow the rules much better because I am still here. Here are a few personal rules I follow:

1. Don't easily become offended.
2. If you don't like a post on here and have nothing to add: don't read it or comment on it: simply move on to something that is of interest.
3. Stop visiting the site if it gets to be negative.

Trent from Toledo
 
Funny, but back in the day before the interweb all us us would be essentially hanging out in a pool hall talking trash.

I remember giving people a hard time when they acted silly and also remember receiving that kind of business when I did the same thing.

I don't think this forum is much different than my early experiences hanging out in pool halls. I take the trash talking in here as part of the norm and is very much what most pool players are like.

When Russ declared his intentions ( that was most likely an attempt to get people to "side" with him because he can't be that much of a weak sister to actually have butt hurt), it made me think of someone walking into a pool hall and telling the owner he will never be back because of some silly interaction with another player.

The funny part is pool players aren't really known to coddle and soothe the feelings of the weak.

I bet he'll be back, he just needs to pout in the corner for a while before coming back to the family.
 
I used to really care a lot about my activities here at AzBilliards. When we went on the road, I posted updates at various pool happenings. I enjoyed meeting old and new friends, many of whom I met here on AzBilliards. :)

People say to ignore the troublemakers, but sometimes you can't when they get personal. :angry:

For me, I could amost equate posting on AzBilliards to habits like smoking cigarettes. It was something I did every day at one time, but for whatever reason, I just quit posting as frequently as I used to. After a period of time, I discovered that it did not matter what trolls and banned members posted about me or mine or about any subject matter. By golly, this was an aha moment for me. :p

I can enjoy AzBilliards today much better than I used to. It's definitely not the same forum it was when I joined, but every time I come here to post, it really is like walking into the home of an old friend. I can get comfy and feel right at home. :cool:

I just choose threads to post in more carefully today. :wink:
 
PRED said:
https://youtu.be/vAmR5JBUOPA
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"Why, Earl... I must apoligize... I did not know you were still standing
there... YOU MAY GO"

"You look like somebody just walked over your grave!!"

Kilmer should have got an Oscar.

There's a few sayings that have stuck with me :

"Don't tell me what you're going to do... DO IT, then SHOW me"

"It's mind over matter.. if you don't MIND, it don't MATTER"
 
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Runner said:
"Why, Earl... I must apoligize... I did not know you were still standing
there... YOU MAY GO"

"You look like somebody just walked over your grave!!"

Kilmer should have got an Oscar.
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Best role of his life!!
 
trentfromtoledo said:
Ahh the FACTS were there :



I never had any past issues with this guy. Never cussed at him, never lied to him or threatened him in the thread Muecciplayer mentioned above.

I guess I must have learned to follow the rules much better because I am still here. Here are a few personal rules I follow:

1. Don't easily become offended.
2. If you don't like a post on here and have nothing to add: don't read it or comment on it: simply move on to something that is of interest.
3. Stop visiting the site if it gets to be negative.

Trent from Toledo
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I wanted to clarify the issues I had with your responses, so nobody thinks you are Mr. Innocent in all this. I am kinda pissed off at Mr. Wilson specifically for this ban, as I believe your behavior was completely inappropriate in the thread in question.

In summary, I am in Germany, I bought a used Gold Crown II, and had the rails changed to Artemis Intercontinental #66, and paid a nominal fee to the table installer to attempt a subrail extension, which neither the installer, nor 99% of other German installers had even HEARD of being possible. I made that clear in my posts, and that I was rolling the dice, hoping to get a playable table. The most common way of tightening pockets in Germany is to add more pocket facings, which makes the pockets play awful, and frustrating. I was looking for better playing pockets, even if they were not up to Mark Gregory's or Glen's standards.

I was in constant contact with Glen/realkingcobra, and he sent me pictures of his work to show to the installer, along with pocket angles/measurements. He responded to any questions I had, usually with minutes on Facebook Messenger.

Then, came the update thread. THE PURPOSE of which was to give the people in the mechanic's thread an update about one of the first subrail extwnsions attempted in Germany. I wanted to give the members some meat and potatoes to look at, with some updates on my thoughts through the process, and feedback on how I thought the table played.

You then proceeded to get into a pissing match with realkingcobra, and totally derail the entire thread. I told you in so many words that while the work was not perfect, and certainly not up to realkingcobra's standards, that it played much better than the average tightened German table, and I was not really looking for criticism of the work in that thread, and the thread was simply to share the process with my fellow forum members. Your bickering with realkingcobra is not an isolated event.

When I TOLD you your input/arguing was not appreciated in the thread, and that I was "happy enough" with the only options I had in Germany, and that all in all, I was not unhappy with the choice I made to roll the dice with a subrail extension, you then insinuated that in so many words, I was happy to accept shitty work, and that I must not be either that knowledgable a consumer, or that great a player, if I was willing to accept such piss poor work. I am paraphrasing here, but I do not really think I am too far off the mark.

So, there it is in a nutshell. Getting a table again here in Germany after being totally out of practice but still putting up a stiff fight against Scott Frost at DCC this year, was an important moment for me. I was trying to share that moment, as imperfect as it might be, with the mechanic's forum, and you just HAD to come in and piss in everyone's wheaties, just to stoke your own ego.

But the key to this is.... you're not a top mechanic. You're a guy who polishes up tables to look pretty, and if the customer really needs a top playing table as well, you sub out the work. And there is a place for that, I will not begrudge you that. BUT, in my opinion, you were totally out of line, when I asked you to keep things civil in a thread I started, and you keep an argument going with someone I trust eminently more than yourself, considering he actually took the time to try to help me get the best result possible, given my lack of choices of top mechanic talent in Germany.

And the fact that Mr. Wilson saw nothing wrong with your behavior makes me think that this forum is on it's last legs.
 
I thought you were done here? LOL! Its all good Russ, just remember that I never cussed at you, never lied about anything or threatened you. I did in fact tell you what I thought about the hacked up GC3 you have.... Its comical, here is one pic of the upholstry on Russ's GC3:
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That is the most ridiculous fold ever.

As for your opinion on my business or abilities you have nothing to say because we have never done business....

I have more than enough very happy clients. You can check them out right here : https://www.facebook.com/pg/toledopooltables/photos/?tab=albums

Every restoration I have done is there. Years of work. I love what I do.

Russ Chewning said:
I wanted to clarify the issues I had with your responses, so nobody thinks you are Mr. Innocent in all this. I am kinda pissed off at Mr. Wilson specifically for this ban, as I believe your behavior was completely inappropriate in the thread in question.

In summary, I am in Germany, I bought a used Gold Crown II, and had the rails changed to Artemis Intercontinental #66, and paid a nominal fee to the table installer to attempt a subrail extension, which neither the installer, nor 99% of other German installers had even HEARD of being possible. I made that clear in my posts, and that I was rolling the dice, hoping to get a playable table. The most common way of tightening pockets in Germany is to add more pocket facings, which makes the pockets play awful, and frustrating. I was looking for better playing pockets, even if they were not up to Mark Gregory's or Glen's standards.

I was in constant contact with Glen/realkingcobra, and he sent me pictures of his work to show to the installer, along with pocket angles/measurements. He responded to any questions I had, usually with minutes on Facebook Messenger.

Then, came the update thread. THE PURPOSE of which was to give the people in the mechanic's thread an update about one of the first subrail extwnsions attempted in Germany. I wanted to give the members some meat and potatoes to look at, with some updates on my thoughts through the process, and feedback on how I thought the table played.

You then proceeded to get into a pissing match with realkingcobra, and totally derail the entire thread. I told you in so many words that while the work was not perfect, and certainly not up to realkingcobra's standards, that it played much better than the average tightened German table, and I was not really looking for criticism of the work in that thread, and the thread was simply to share the process with my fellow forum members. Your bickering with realkingcobra is not an isolated event.

When I TOLD you your input/arguing was not appreciated in the thread, and that I was "happy enough" with the only options I had in Germany, and that all in all, I was not unhappy with the choice I made to roll the dice with a subrail extension, you then insinuated that in so many words, I was happy to accept shitty work, and that I must not be either that knowledgable a consumer, or that great a player, if I was willing to accept such piss poor work. I am paraphrasing here, but I do not really think I am too far off the mark.

So, there it is in a nutshell. Getting a table again here in Germany after being totally out of practice but still putting up a stiff fight against Scott Frost at DCC this year, was an important moment for me. I was trying to share that moment, as imperfect as it might be, with the mechanic's forum, and you just HAD to come in and piss in everyone's wheaties, just to stoke your own ego.

But the key to this is.... you're not a top mechanic. You're a guy who polishes up tables to look pretty, and if the customer really needs a top playing table as well, you sub out the work. And there is a place for that, I will not begrudge you that. BUT, in my opinion, you were totally out of line, when I asked you to keep things civil in a thread I started, and you keep an argument going with someone I trust eminently more than yourself, considering he actually took the time to try to help me get the best result possible, given my lack of choices of top mechanic talent in Germany.

And the fact that Mr. Wilson saw nothing wrong with your behavior makes me think that this forum is on it's last legs.
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Russ,

I've had a lot of posters on here attack me, insult me, try and twist things around, and turn a lot of people against me, including the Mods. And they have been successful too.

I learned the hard way that when you try and ask a poster on here to please leave it alone, don't start the insults or attacks, etc, that is the worst thing to do. It only gets worse and worse from that point as others then begin to do the same thing.

I agree, more monitoring by the Mods is needed. I keep offering to be a Moderator but none of the current Mods ever contact me.

r/DCP
 
haystj said:
Funny, but back in the day before the interweb all us us would be essentially hanging out in a pool hall talking trash.

I remember giving people a hard time when they acted silly and also remember receiving that kind of business when I did the same thing.

I don't think this forum is much different than my early experiences hanging out in pool halls. I take the trash talking in here as part of the norm and is very much what most pool players are like.

When Russ declared his intentions ( that was most likely an attempt to get people to "side" with him because he can't be that much of a weak sister to actually have butt hurt), it made me think of someone walking into a pool hall and telling the owner he will never be back because of some silly interaction with another player.

The funny part is pool players aren't really known to coddle and soothe the feelings of the weak.

I bet he'll be back, he just needs to pout in the corner for a while before coming back to the family.
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BOOM!! He shoots,he scores!!
 
Runner said:
"Why, Earl... I must apoligize... I did not know you were still standing
there... YOU MAY GO"

"You look like somebody just walked over your grave!!"

Kilmer should have got an Oscar.

There's a few sayings that have stuck with me :

"Don't tell me what you're going to do... DO IT, then SHOW me"

"It's mind over matter.. if you don't MIND, it don't MATTER"
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"Ah'm afraid the strain was moah than he could bay-ah..."
 
I wonder if the mechanic doing the subrail extension that Short Bus Russ was collecting all the info for was Russ Chewning. Hmmm. That would explain why he got so upset about this. Forgive my playing of internet detective.
 
PRED said:
Did this guy come back after he said he was done?
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I've always mentioned to friends how great a 'prequal' to Tombstone
would've been, simply "Doc Holliday"... with a Wyatt cameo... it's
been too long now. Kind of like Harrison Ford waiting too long to do
the last "Raiders" or " Star Wars".

Val just killed it as Doc, stole the movie.

"You're A Daisy If You Do!"
 

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Russ Chewning said:
I wanted to clarify the issues I had with your responses, so nobody thinks you are Mr. Innocent in all this. I am kinda pissed off at Mr. Wilson specifically for this ban, as I believe your behavior was completely inappropriate in the thread in question.

In summary, I am in Germany, I bought a used Gold Crown II, and had the rails changed to Artemis Intercontinental #66, and paid a nominal fee to the table installer to attempt a subrail extension, which neither the installer, nor 99% of other German installers had even HEARD of being possible. I made that clear in my posts, and that I was rolling the dice, hoping to get a playable table. The most common way of tightening pockets in Germany is to add more pocket facings, which makes the pockets play awful, and frustrating. I was looking for better playing pockets, even if they were not up to Mark Gregory's or Glen's standards.

I was in constant contact with Glen/realkingcobra, and he sent me pictures of his work to show to the installer, along with pocket angles/measurements. He responded to any questions I had, usually with minutes on Facebook Messenger.

Then, came the update thread. THE PURPOSE of which was to give the people in the mechanic's thread an update about one of the first subrail extwnsions attempted in Germany. I wanted to give the members some meat and potatoes to look at, with some updates on my thoughts through the process, and feedback on how I thought the table played.

You then proceeded to get into a pissing match with realkingcobra, and totally derail the entire thread. I told you in so many words that while the work was not perfect, and certainly not up to realkingcobra's standards, that it played much better than the average tightened German table, and I was not really looking for criticism of the work in that thread, and the thread was simply to share the process with my fellow forum members. Your bickering with realkingcobra is not an isolated event.

When I TOLD you your input/arguing was not appreciated in the thread, and that I was "happy enough" with the only options I had in Germany, and that all in all, I was not unhappy with the choice I made to roll the dice with a subrail extension, you then insinuated that in so many words, I was happy to accept shitty work, and that I must not be either that knowledgable a consumer, or that great a player, if I was willing to accept such piss poor work. I am paraphrasing here, but I do not really think I am too far off the mark.

So, there it is in a nutshell. Getting a table again here in Germany after being totally out of practice but still putting up a stiff fight against Scott Frost at DCC this year, was an important moment for me. I was trying to share that moment, as imperfect as it might be, with the mechanic's forum, and you just HAD to come in and piss in everyone's wheaties, just to stoke your own ego.

But the key to this is.... you're not a top mechanic. You're a guy who polishes up tables to look pretty, and if the customer really needs a top playing table as well, you sub out the work. And there is a place for that, I will not begrudge you that. BUT, in my opinion, you were totally out of line, when I asked you to keep things civil in a thread I started, and you keep an argument going with someone I trust eminently more than yourself, considering he actually took the time to try to help me get the best result possible, given my lack of choices of top mechanic talent in Germany.

And the fact that Mr. Wilson saw nothing wrong with your behavior makes me think that this forum is on it's last legs.
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Welcome back Russ! How were you're two days off? :wave3:
 
Runner said:
I've always mentioned to friends how great a 'prequal' to Tombstone
would've been, simply "Doc Holliday"... with a Wyatt cameo... it's
been too long now. Kind of like Harrison Ford waiting too long to do
the last "Raiders" or " Star Wars".

Val just killed it as Doc, stole the movie.

"You're A Daisy If You Do!"
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"...……… say when...………" :)
 
That is true.

Quickest way to get it is to ask not to.

You have grown, gl-asshopper.

By the powers vested in me, I hereby pronounce you, man and mod.

Go in pieces.

And for the love of God, can a damn chicken cross the road without being asked about her purpose for doing so?

DrCue'sProtege said:
Russ,

I've had a lot of posters on here attack me, insult me, try and twist things around, and turn a lot of people against me, including the Mods. And they have been successful too.

I learned the hard way that when you try and ask a poster on here to please leave it alone, don't start the insults or attacks, etc, that is the worst thing to do. It only gets worse and worse from that point as others then begin to do the same thing.

I agree, more monitoring by the Mods is needed. I keep offering to be a Moderator but none of the current Mods ever contact me.

r/DCP
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