Kamui tip, I just tried one.can't believe it !

After seeing the thread about Pool Dawg sending a bunch of goodies over to our troops in Iraq so they could have a pool tournament I was thinking about stuff to order from them just for the hell of it. One of the things I thought about ordering is a Kamui tip.

I've already tried the Kamui black tips and just didn't like the feel of them. I just couldn't find that happy medium feel like my favorite Sniper tips. Everything else about them was awesome. They hold chalk great, install great and look great after install.

On the other hand I haven't tried the regular Kamui tips and considering that I don't need any Snipers (I still have a dozen) and I don't like the new Mooris (still have a few of those too) I will toss PD some cash on a Kamui tip among other stuff to show my appreciation of their appreciation for our troops.
 
For years I have been installing and using Moori tips, never had a complaint.
I absolutely love the moori quick......however, I ordered a couple kamui black hard to try on my player.....just to see if the hype is real.
If I have a good experiance I will be able to sell some kamui's.
If I dont like it, I will go back to the tried and tested for me, Moori quick
 
I'm sorry, but the tip has absolutely nothing to do with your aim. If you're hitting center pocket it's because you're in good form. Now, you may like the way the tip feels, no one can argue that one at all, but the tip isn't making you shoot better.....other than maybe psychologically having more confidence because you *THINK* the tip is doing it. And read that again, "the tip is doing it". Screw that, I want *ME* to be doing it.
MULLY
 
I agree Gene. Kamui tips are the best tips I have used. Predator and OB Cues use Everest tips which are a good tip but I like the Kamui Tan Medium even better. Like you, I have to try one of the Kamui Black tips. Does Jesse use the Soft or the Super-Soft?

Congrats on being the last man standing.

Thanks,
JoeyA
 
I am in love with the Kamui Black Super Soft tip for all kinds of reasons. But, I do try other tips to see what else I like and to just get familiar with them. I have tried many, many different kinds of tips and gave an honest effort to play with them. I am not just looking for a tip to play with myself but, also one to use on the cues that I build. I will put what the customer wants but, if someone asks what a good tip is. I try to have an honest opinion and a reason for that opinion.

When I am trying a tip I have several things that I look for. I'm not worried about price of a tip or the hype of something new hitting the market.

Here is what I look for:

First off, I try all new tips on my own personal playing cue so that I can get an honest assesment of the tip.

I am looking to see how the tip wears

Do I seem to miscue with the tip (I also look at how far can I get away from center ball before I feel I'm losing grip on the cueball.)

How does the tip feel and sound?

Then I look at how it plays. If the tip seems to give me more spin then I take it as an advantage that will allow me to stay closer to the center of the cueball.

A new tip or gizmo of any type may not make you play better than you do right now. But if it allows you to be more comfortable at the table or gives you more spin and you can really move the cueball around which in turns makes us excited. Doesn't that build confidence? Doesn't that rekindle the fire inside of us that makes us play this game in the first place and causes us to practice more often and for longer sessions?

So indirectly and over time. That new tip that has a lot of hype around it might just make us play better after all.
 
To me arguing the Pro or Con of Tips is like arguing about what is the Very Very BEST MEXICAN Restaurant in the Valley of the Sun. It comes down to personal preference, and even the Restaurant Critics will disagree.

Because pool Dawgs was mention about he is a link to the Tips they sell, it 5 pages and I would BET they sell all these tips as their customer each have a preference.
 
genomachino said:
I just tried a predator 314-2 about 2 weeks ago. I see now how all these young guns are shooting better than ever.

When I quit playing in 1999 I was using a La pro tip. Sometimes a Champion but I always came back to a La Pro.

I won alot of money and won alot of tournys in the 80's and 90's with my old La Pro tip but that was back before all these laminated shafts came out also.

I've only been playing seriously about 2 years again now and I finally started experimenting with some of these layered tips.

I tried a Morri but it seemed to get kind of dead after awhile. No bounce in it after a couple of weeks.

Then I tried a Wizard that Mark O gave me up in Fargo.

I liked it a little more than the morri but it kind of didn't play like I wanted and seemed to get flat also.

I was at Treasure Island this last weekend and had Cue Stickman put on another Wizard. I was really unhappy how this played. In the middle of the team match I ran over to the booth and they put on a Kamui.

I wasn't too excited about it at the time. It wasn't quite as round as I'd like and I was really wore out from the smoke I had breathed in for 2 days already.:frown: It was pretty minimal but for me it was catastrophy for my health and well being. So I didn't have all my pool skills working for me either.

Still feeling like crap I went to Shooters tourny in Burnsville to play in their Monday Night 9 ball tourny. It's a good tourny with some of the best players in the twin cities playing every week.

I really thought I would go 2 and out the way I felt.:shakehead:

I rounded the kamui tip a little and started warming up. I could not believe what I was experiencing. I could move the cue ball around with a great amount of accuracy and the balls were going in the center of the hole.

I can't believe I waited to try this great tip all this time. I told Jess engle, why didn't you tell me I should be using one of these. He just smiled and said , you think that one is good, you should try a kamui black. They are the nutz.:cool: Then he let me shoot a couple of shots with his cue. It did feel and grab pretty good.

This one plays so good that i can't imagine getting any better than this. I just can't believe that I was so pig headed as to not try this tip especially after all the hype I've heard on here about it.

But you know, the nay sayers got me again. I really thought there was some merit to the players that said they were no better than this one or that one.

Well I have news for them. They must be drunk or on drugs or both not to see the value of this great tip and how accurate you can be with it. Plus it is totally consistent. :yeah:

This was the final piece to the puzzle for me. I've been looking for that magic tip for about 2 years now and I have finally found it.

And I almost won the tourny. It was 2:30 AM and Brian Breke split the first and second place money with me. I think you call that chopping it up.
Brian had to go to work early so I said OK.

I really wanted to play the final. I feel so good about how this tip plays.

The good news is that everyone is telling me that these tips all play the same. I can't hardly wait to play in my next tourny.

Anyone that hasn't tried one of these tips needs to do it. Do yourself a favor I'm telling you.

Predator 314-2, Kamui tip and Perfect Aim.

It don't get any better than this.:dance::clapping: LOOK OUT................

UNREAL>>>>>>>>>....... Good Job Kamui............thanks for making a great tip.....................
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I've been shooting with the Kamui Black SS tips for a couple of years now. I was so impressed with the first one I tried I went back and bought a dozen of them to keep tips from the same batch on hand.

Freshly installed, these tips will give you a huge amount of grab on the CB. But, after awhile they will settle down and perform more like an old Moori, just with more consistency over its lifetime. (I gave up on Mooris because they kept delaminating on me.)

Like I said, I've been playing with them for a couple of years now and I would say that they are a good consistent tip. Given time it will compress and does mushroom just a bit with regular play, but perhaps not as much as with other tips.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
I've been shooting with the Kamui Black SS tips for a couple of years now. I was so impressed with the first one I tried I went back and bought a dozen of them to keep tips from the same batch on hand.

Freshly installed, these tips will give you a huge amount of grab on the CB. But, after awhile they will settle down and perform more like an old Moori, just with more consistency over its lifetime. (I gave up on Mooris because they kept delaminating on me.)

Like I said, I've been playing with them for a couple of years now and I would say that they are a good consistent tip. Given time it will compress and does mushroom just a bit with regular play, but perhaps not as much as with other tips.

Lou Figueroa
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Do you use a break cue or break with your shooting cue? Just curious.
 
JUSTABANGER 2 said:
Some of what you say maybe true. But who knows what Willie would be using today if he had all these choices we have. Willie also had his own cue ball he used in his exhibtions. Or at least he did when I saw him put on a show in the 70's in Omaha. Not that he couldn't shoot with any cue ball I'm sure it was more for consistancy than anything.
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Willie brought his own set of balls to play with for his exhibitions. I think he did lose a cue ball of his somewhere along the way:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=82386

Lou Figueroa
 
JAM said:
Do you use a break cue or break with your shooting cue? Just curious.
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What's a break cue?

J/K. Nowadays I'm mostly playing 1pocket and 14.1. But on those rare occasions I do play 9ball I use a break cue. And actually the reason for that is not because of concern about the tip or ferrule but because of the leather wrap on my playing cue, a custom Gina. Many years ago I learned, the hard way, that breaking with a leather wrap runs the risk of separating the seam on it because of the torquing motion of your hand accelerating on a power break. I am older and marginally wiser now.

Lou Figueroa
 
Soft.

JoeyA said:
I agree Gene. Kamui tips are the best tips I have used. Predator and OB Cues use Everest tips which are a good tip but I like the Kamui Tan Medium even better. Like you, I have to try one of the Kamui Black tips. Does Jesse use the Soft or the Super-Soft?

Congrats on being the last man standing.

Thanks,
JoeyA
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It felt almost like it was a rubber tip. It gripped the ball really well.
 
Last night was fun.......

oneshotwiss said:
I agree with you Gene. I have a Kamui Med (brown) on my 314-2 which is attached to my Richard Black and it is by far hands down the best feeling combination I have come up with.
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I walked into Shooters last night. i hadn't played four about 4 days much at all. Was still healing up from the punishment my body had recieved from the smoke at the casino tourny last weekend.

I said to Mark when I walked in, Is there any action? And he knows when I say this that I really just want someone to play with.

He looks at a gentleman on a table in the ring and said YA but he needs the 7 ball.

The gentleman looks at me and smiled. I had never seen him play before.

Soon i asked him if he wanted to play some and i would give him the 7.

He said sure. I'll play you races to 7 for $20. I agreed.

I was just tickled pink to have someone to practice with.

I got out the predator 314-2 with this kamui tan soft tip and started tearing up the table.

In the first 3 sets this gentleman had no chance to even win a game hardly.

Sure I can play but this great equipment just enabled me to do what I could do. It never let me down.

This gentleman never asked for a bigger spot and in one of the later sets I found out he could actually play pretty good.

2 sets went to the hill. But when it came down to crunch time and I had to draw the ball here or slide it over there or do whatever I had to do this equipment combination was lethal.

That kamui tip never let me down.

What a great find for me.

I think it's a shame that so many players havn't tried one of these and I know it's because of the price.

Suck it up and spend a Buck......................

Bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.

Remember this every time you miscue.

There never was an article made that couldn't be made worse for less money.

And this also.

Everyone need to try one for sure. See for yourself.............
 
Cuemaster98 said:
Hi Geno,

Have you tried a Molavia or the new Hirano? Molavia is by far the best for me and I've tried and tested every tips on the market.

Regards,
Duc.
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Still prefer the "H" grade Molavia regardless of the cue being used?

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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„J'ai gâché vingt ans de mes plus belles années au billard. Si c'était à refaire, je recommencerais.“ – Roger Conti
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
One of the GREATEST Player of All times, who many Records still stand was Willie Mosconi. He had no Super Tips, Super Shafts, or $25.00 a CUBE Chalk, and I personally would trade all my Cues, Cases, and doo dads for Willie's skill, and ability to FOCUS on each ball I shoot.

Think many times Pool Player like Golfers, etc. are looking for magic equipment, and fail to realize winning Player, and golfer Win because of skill, and focus, and not what equipment they are using.

JMHO
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Apart from his undoubted skills (I'm old enough to have seen him play in person), people tend to underestimate the quality of the material used back then, the woolen cloth that allowed for so much control, the old water buffalo tips (remember those fondly, still hold on to a couple that are probably too dried-out by now to use), and not least, the quality custom-made cues. The balls (with the exception of ivory - which is indeed great material for the purpose, even if as a WWF member I'm happy it's no longer en vogue) were probably the worst part, no wonder Willie liked steep angles on his break shots...

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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„J'ai gâché vingt ans de mes plus belles années au billard. Si c'était à refaire, je recommencerais.“ – Roger Conti
 
I've shot with a few Predator cues and other cues with the predator shafts, new 314s, original 314s etc. Mind you I'm not a great player, still fairly new to the game in fact..but I prefer either of my Runde shafts with Le Pro tips to the laminated Predator ones. But it's all personal opinion, so I thought I'd share mine.
 
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