Keith McCready: Toughest Gamblers Ever
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Matt_24 said:
very good sir.
I heard this story and maybe Keith can verify it.CrossSideLarry said:
Supposedly Cornbread Red came down at Bob's place b/c he heard some snotty kid would give the 8 to ANYONE.
Keith did for big dough and busted Cornbread Red.
And I heard Keith yelled from the stands during a pro tournament " Ya all get the 8 if you want some."
Billy Johnson supposedly took the offer and Keith busted him.
Joey~Really wonders if these are just Orange County myths~
SpiderWebComm said:
Your 100% correct, just as long as the player and stake understand what the deal is before that coin is flipped, or that lag is lagged. Good post, Spider.
Frankie
If you all want to hear it straight from a famous player's mouth exactly what she (JAM) means then please find the Podcasts of the Ronnie Allen interviews. He has a story in there that I believe exactly defines what aspect of pool gambling she is describing.
www.tropicanabowlingalley.com/ronnie.html
And I want to clarify what I said earlier about asking for a cut of a road player's action;
If a road player I know walks into my home room where I live and wants to gamble with the people I gamble with and who stake me then he ought to be willing to give up some jelly (a cut) of the action for my silence. Why should I let him empty out the room without getting some of it?
In my mind it is a courtesy to allow a top player to hustle in my home room. What should really happen is that the player SHOULD come straight to me when he knows me and ask me to steer him and OFFER the jelly.
On the road however it's a different story. If I walk into a poolroom and I see someone else already working the room then I will NOT approach them or otherwise cut in on their action. The only way I would get in on what they were doing is if I thought I had a good way for us both to score.
It should also be noted that the "I" used above is literary and literal. I personally was never at the level where I had to worry about this very much either direction.
www.tropicanabowlingalley.com/ronnie.html
And I want to clarify what I said earlier about asking for a cut of a road player's action;
If a road player I know walks into my home room where I live and wants to gamble with the people I gamble with and who stake me then he ought to be willing to give up some jelly (a cut) of the action for my silence. Why should I let him empty out the room without getting some of it?
In my mind it is a courtesy to allow a top player to hustle in my home room. What should really happen is that the player SHOULD come straight to me when he knows me and ask me to steer him and OFFER the jelly.
On the road however it's a different story. If I walk into a poolroom and I see someone else already working the room then I will NOT approach them or otherwise cut in on their action. The only way I would get in on what they were doing is if I thought I had a good way for us both to score.
It should also be noted that the "I" used above is literary and literal. I personally was never at the level where I had to worry about this very much either direction.
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Bucktooth said Keith is one of the most colorful pool players he has ever known and will get in the Box he is not a non Gambler like a lot of Champions who can only play for a trophy. There are so many players who chokes when the money is down not $100 not $1000 but for $50,000 a game not a race 19 ahead. Keith has balls he is not a Nit like some Champions who made a Game with Bucktooth and the next day got scared and ran like a chicken it takes Balls to bet the money and it takes heart to win it when you can't see.....
HAH now thas classic!!!!
jason said:
The same could be said about backers who agree to a payout arrangement, and then once the monies are in the backer's hands, the backer proceeds to take what they want and pay out what they want.
If an agreement is made between a backer and a player, it should be adhered to.
The reason I feel very strongly about this is that I experienced a backer withhold $2,000 out of $2,500 when the cut was supposed to be 50/50 between the backer and the player. Once the money is in the backer's pockets, what is a player supposed to do to get the rest of the 50-percent share? It is not like you can call the police and ask for assistance. In this instance, the backer ripped the player off and did not adhere to the original agreement of a 50/50 split.
I will continue to hold my minority opinion on this topic. Have at me and my opinion. I'm getting used to it on this forum. I am long in the tooth, and my skin is much thicker than it used to be.
JAM
I guess I would get my money back one way or the other and if he had to be setup for screwing me over then he got what he deserved,the only other alternative besides that is putting out the word that the guy is not to be trusted.JAM said:
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Keith,
Ever take on Ronnie Allen? From what I hear Ronnie has sure done alright in the one pocket arena but how about other pool game formats. Any input. Thanks and good luck!!
Ever take on Ronnie Allen? From what I hear Ronnie has sure done alright in the one pocket arena but how about other pool game formats. Any input. Thanks and good luck!!
cornfed said:
lol, so, I'm guessing each player has to post $950,000?
JAM said:
Absolutely agree. A deal is a deal.
From your original post, it sounded like the stakehorse had to give a good cut of the money or they were being greedy. If it is 1%, 50%, or 90% is should be agreed upon and adhered to before the match.
What you are talking about now is basically the breaking of a verbal contract. Thats like going to work for $20 an hour and at the end of the week your boss says, "Ya, know what, I think I will just pay you $10 an hour." Screw dat! Someone gonna get a arrssWhooopin and a new pair of cement shoes!
Fast Lenny said:I guess I would get my money back one way or the other and if he had to be setup for screwing me over then he got what he deserved,the only other alternative besides that is putting out the word that the guy is not to be trusted.
I would get mine. Even if I had to come back everyday.