Ko pin yi going to bca nationals Las Vegas

Ko pin yi will be at bca for the us open 10 ball and 8 ball. I don't think he's bringing a backer but maybe someone can stake him against Shane or maybe tar can set something up. He is one of the best in Taiwan and is known for his 10 ball break.

SVB flat out stated after TAR 35 that he wanted to play Ko Pin Yi, TAR should definately be trying to get this done while he is in town.

No 3 sets either, Ko is a 10-ball player, race to 100 10-ball like TAR 35.
 
SVB flat out stated after TAR 35 that he wanted to play Ko Pin Yi, TAR should definately be trying to get this done while he is in town.

No 3 sets either, Ko is a 10-ball player, race to 100 10-ball like TAR 35.

Justin said Shane challenged Ko to play for 20k. We do not know if that message got there. I would hope TAR can set something up even if they don't play for 20k.
 
Pretty strong!

I hadn't heard about Ko Pin Yi's 10 ball break, I can't believe someone does it better than shane.
I searched youtube and didn't find a single video of him breaking ten ball.
Do you have any links so we can see it?

PS: "Alex and Dennis are the better players but they just can't outplay Shane's break"
Traditionally we define better player by who wins :)
There's no such thing as "he's the best player but keeps losing"

I have heard a few top players correct someone when they say Shane is the best 10 ball player in the U.S.A. They say, "he has the best break, not the best player". I say that's just sour grapes as Shane has a complete game to go with his break. Johnnyt
 
wu,chang and ko pin yi the best 3 players from china/tiawan

i know that chang beat shane for money in manila..

all 3 guys got huge breaks and 3 of the best players in the world...all 3 would be in my top 8 current best players in the world.

some big potential match ups for sure.

i think ko pin yi got the best break in the world and other two guys break great also.lol.

all 3 of them plus more coming to BCA.. field will be sick this year

dynamite

Can we get your complete top 8 money players?
And what makes them the top 8 money players? Do they bet the most. Or win the most. I'm very curious thru a PROS eyes what this means.
 
I have heard a few top players correct someone when they say Shane is the best 10 ball player in the U.S.A. They say, "he has the best break, not the best player". I say that's just sour grapes as Shane has a complete game to go with his break. Johnnyt

I don't know what they mean because Shane runs out from everywhere. I mean he made a lot of SICK outs in the match with Dennis. Plus I don't know how you could be a better 10 ball player if you don't have a big break. That was the whole point of going to ten ball to make the players break harder and make the runouts tougher. Shane mastered the break and runs out the racks he is supposed to when he can see the one from the break. When he gets hooked he plays a great push then plays a great safe behind it.

To me he has a complete game with no weaknesses. He kicked with Orcullo, he banked with Orcullo, he outbroke Orcullo, he missed less makeable balls, he played jam up safes, I am failing to see where he was in any way weaker than any other American player in winner breaks ten ball?

The ONLY thing I notice is that Shane gets hot when things don't go his way. He doesn't have that Ralf Souquet stoic demeanor and that probably costs him a few games here and there due to loss of focus. Or it could fire him up and make him focus more. Hard to tell when the guy runs a three pack every five minutes :-)
 
Sorry but when someone has yet to win a world title overseas against the monsters, no way they can be the best period.

Really? Why? Just because somebody attaches a "World Championship" title to a tournament, doesn't mean the winner is the "best" player in the world.

How many of those guys have come over to the US and won the US Open?
I guarantee it's field is just as tough, if not tougher, than that of any of the World Championship tournaments.

Which isn't to say he's definitely the best, but if he's not, then who is?
(And yes, of course this is somewhat subjective and there's a certain amount of "pick a day.")

And don't just give me the name of some guy who currently happens to be at the top of some arbitrary list that's based off of a biased metric.
(ie. "Player blah blah" is number one in the world, because he's played in and finished high in "X" number of our "RECOGNIZED" tournaments....regardless of how competitive the fields actually were compared to other events.)
 
Really? Why? Just because somebody attaches a "World Championship" title to a tournament, doesn't mean the winner is the "best" player in the world.

How many of those guys have come over to the US and won the US Open?
I guarantee it's field is just as tough, if not tougher, than that of any of the World Championship tournaments.

Which isn't to say he's definitely the best, but if he's not, then who is?
(And yes, of course this is somewhat subjective and there's a certain amount of "pick a day.")

And don't just give me the name of some guy who currently happens to be at the top of some arbitrary list that's based off of a biased metric.
(ie. "Player blah blah" is number one in the world, because he's played in and finished high in "X" number of our "RECOGNIZED" tournaments....regardless of how competitive the fields actually were compared to other events.)

Well, I will give you that the 'World' moniker is diluted...

I think you are wrong though, if you think a true World's fields is similar to the Us Open's.

In the World events, every player that makes final 64 is a monster.

In the US Open, you have to wait for the final 8 to get anything that approaches that level.
 
check out this video of Ko Pin Yi playing

go to 24:15 to see his massive break.....

http://www.ustream.tv/new/search?q=ko+pin+yi#/recorded/27002175

Thats a good vid. Fairly recent, only 6 months old, too.

I love Shane's 10 ball break. The control and action he gets is the best in the world, IMO. From what I've seen, only a few guys have an equal 10 ball break i.e. Yang(when he was playing well) and Ko. There might be 1-2 other guys I'm forgetting. If SVB and Ko get it on, there is no doubt that I'm buying the PPV. Honestly, I think a race to 100 might be decided by 11 games or less.


Eric
 
How many of those guys have come over to the US and won the US Open?
I guarantee it's field is just as tough, if not tougher, than that of any of the World Championship tournaments

I guarantee it is not even close. A US Open has15 or so guys who are basically competing for the title amidst a huge number of short stops and dead money. The world championships have 50 guys of the level of those 15 guys in the US Open who are all killers and who can all win. That is why it is way harder to repeat as a world champ or win multiple titles.
 
Thats a good vid. Fairly recent, only 6 months old, too.

I love Shane's 10 ball break. The control and action he gets is the best in the world, IMO. From what I've seen, only a few guys have an equal 10 ball break i.e. Yang(when he was playing well) and Ko. There might be 1-2 other guys I'm forgetting. If SVB and Ko get it on, there is no doubt that I'm buying the PPV. Honestly, I think a race to 100 might be decided by 11 games or less.


Eric
I watched most all of it and thing SVB's break- at least in the last TAR- was significantly better.

And that guy Ko beat wasn't even on his own team. He did not shoot back at all. I'd still take the 8& the craqules.;)
 
I guarantee it is not even close. A US Open has15 or so guys who are basically competing for the title amidst a huge number of short stops and dead money. The world championships have 50 guys of the level of those 15 guys in the US Open who are all killers and who can all win. That is why it is way harder to repeat as a world champ or win multiple titles.

yezz...the qualifiers to get into the World's events are probably tougher than the US Open.
 
Great vid of ko pin-yi, I can see where the comparison to shane comes from. Another good break around the 45 minute mark.

The break is definitely shane-like, with the same 3 or 4 balls potentially dropping and the same 1 ball hanging out in the corner like a ripe cherry waiting to be picked. Cue ball hops backwards then dies.
I saw a few misses there were not so shane-like, though maybe he didn't fully bear down vs. father time.

I dunno if the break is better, it has fewer moving parts, maybe it's a touch more controlled, but also a couple mph slower. I guess that's irrelevant as long as the balls drop. Would be interested to see hard stats on balls per break on average, etc.
 
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