I play with an OB break cue, nice hard leather tip and I get good ball distribution. Best cue I have ever broke a rack with.
Lift the ban bca!!!!!!
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I play with an OB break cue, nice hard leather tip and I get good ball distribution. Best cue I have ever broke a rack with.
Look at it this way there never going to outlaw leather so once you adapt you tecnique you will be set for life.
Damaged cue balls....... I dont believe it. So now that everyone has there jump/break cues with phenolic tips they wont be able to use them. Oh goody. Must be a marketing scheme. Now soon there will be tons of new jump cues out on the market with no phenolic tips. I know it takes more skill to jump without phenolic but why now? Too many old timers views obviosly had to do with this one. It sucks, but we will have to live with what a minority of people decided what is best for the league. Don't be surprised if all the other leagues follow suit. Damn just when I thought I was done purchasing cues............
i have a jump cue with a wood tip So HAHAHAHAHAHAHA take that!! and im going to make a break cue with a ........ carbon fiber tip next so hahahaha lol
ok Maybe were looking at this the wrong way ????
Maybe aramith needs to look into there balls and figure out why they cant withstand the break???
ok Maybe were looking at this the wrong way ????
Maybe aramith needs to look into there balls and figure out why they cant withstand the break???
i have a jump cue with a wood tip So HAHAHAHAHAHAHA take that!! and im going to make a break cue with a ........ carbon fiber tip next so hahahaha lol
ok Maybe were looking at this the wrong way ????
Maybe aramith needs to look into there balls and figure out why they cant withstand the break???
if you guys dont like the way they run their ship.... maybe it's time to change vessels
Is this what you really think? There are already tons of jumps cues out on the market with out pheniloc tips. Also you shouldn't have to purchase any more cues. All you should have to do it get a new tip put on it and at worst a new ferrule and tip. But if want to be over dramatic then go buy new cues.
If you don't believe it maybe you wouldn't mind picking up the tab for the damaged cue balls instead of the BCAPL. It is obviously not true so it wouldn't cost you anything right?
BVal
Is this what you really think? There are already tons of jumps cues out on the market with out pheniloc tips. Also you shouldn't have to purchase any more cues. All you should have to do it get a new tip put on it and at worst a new ferrule and tip. But if want to be over dramatic then go buy new cues.
If you don't believe it maybe you wouldn't mind picking up the tab for the damaged cue balls instead of the BCAPL. It is obviously not true so it wouldn't cost you anything right?
BVal
Im just saying that it sucks. Especially if you just bought a cue with a phenolic tip. I dont want to spend any more money if I dont have to. I'd like to see some of these damaged cue balls that have been spoken of. Please someone..... lets see the proof. Are they being chipped or what? I have jumped the cue ball with a phenolic tip several times on my table at home and I have'nt noticed any damage. I think this ban is just silly. IMO of course.
I have to disagree with you on this one. I noticed over 10 years ago I was installing a lot of phenolic tips that they put marks on the cue ball. That never changed. The Canvas Based material does not seem to do as much damage as the G10 and the Linen Based material but it does still damage the cue balls. I have been using a leather tip on my jump break cues for a few years now and am happy with the results. The leagues banned phenolic tips in the past and they will probably ban them again. This will just create a market for treated leather tips that are almost as hard as phenolic and less likely to damage the cue ball. I install such a tip if any local players wants to have one put on.
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I feel attacked here. People your opinion on my stroke or my playing is simply that. An opinion. I can and have used leather for all things pool. So I can and will go back to fit for the BCAL events.
I was asking for help from all the kickers and masse artist's becouse those shots much like jumping are part of safty and aggressive pool game. Next they might say no kicking becouse its adding extra wear to the rails, or no masse becouse its using to much chalk. I was asking for your support as part of pools educated players. I hope all those that say they hope jumping leaves the game have actually sat down and practiced jumping. It is another part of your game and something I think every player should know how to do.
CONSIDER THIS!!!!
I dont think the BCAL is going broke paying for cue balls and I also think that a good player should have a great amount of knowledge on equipment and there effects. For consistency and power I like my phenolics. I dont use G-10 and I just got a white diamond. I dont like the BCAL limiting a player in any way shape or form. Next they will get rid of uncoinventional strokes and fast players and slow players and young players and too old players and power players then the game will be boring and probobly suffer for it. Im not saying phenolics are the best but for me at my level they were a very good option. I will always be looking for the next good option. The BCAL charges us to play where is that money going? Doesnt it pay for expensis like this? You cant take on of those dollars and use it for cue balls? Im sure sponsorship and advertising contracts the world over could handle this situation. The more I think of it actually the more It smells.
I mean no disraspect to anyone here but I do want to make some noise. So make some with me.
I was asking for help from all the kickers and masse artist's becouse those shots much like jumping are part of safty and aggressive pool game. Next they might say no kicking becouse its adding extra wear to the rails, or no masse becouse its using to much chalk. I was asking for your support as part of pools educated players. I hope all those that say they hope jumping leaves the game have actually sat down and practiced jumping. It is another part of your game and something I think every player should know how to do.
CONSIDER THIS!!!!
I dont think the BCAL is going broke paying for cue balls and I also think that a good player should have a great amount of knowledge on equipment and there effects. For consistency and power I like my phenolics. I dont use G-10 and I just got a white diamond. I dont like the BCAL limiting a player in any way shape or form. Next they will get rid of uncoinventional strokes and fast players and slow players and young players and too old players and power players then the game will be boring and probobly suffer for it. Im not saying phenolics are the best but for me at my level they were a very good option. I will always be looking for the next good option. The BCAL charges us to play where is that money going? Doesnt it pay for expensis like this? You cant take on of those dollars and use it for cue balls? Im sure sponsorship and advertising contracts the world over could handle this situation. The more I think of it actually the more It smells.
I mean no disraspect to anyone here but I do want to make some noise. So make some with me.
You've made your noise.
The BCAPL has made their noise. Rules and equipment specs are in the hands of those that also pay the bills and offer the largest yearly payout event for amateurs to play pool and have a chance to win $$$$.
You can chose to make more noise and you can chose to not partake in any BCAPL event as a protest.
This is all the noise you will get from me.
The BCAPL has made their noise. Rules and equipment specs are in the hands of those that also pay the bills and offer the largest yearly payout event for amateurs to play pool and have a chance to win $$$$.
You can chose to make more noise and you can chose to not partake in any BCAPL event as a protest.
This is all the noise you will get from me.
double post. sorry.
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seriously???
ooh! ooh! ooh! then... maybe they'll say we can't play pool at all because it wears out the cloth! LOL, please don't feel like I'm attacking you, but I seriously hope you are kidding w/ this statement...
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't read/heard anyone talk about eliminating jumping from the game entirely... all I've read is people saying that you can achieve the same results using leather tips as opposed to phenolic tips...
Again... I hope you are kidding and don't seriously believe this... those are some pretty radical statements.
ooh! ooh! ooh! then... maybe they'll say we can't play pool at all because it wears out the cloth! LOL, please don't feel like I'm attacking you, but I seriously hope you are kidding w/ this statement...
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't read/heard anyone talk about eliminating jumping from the game entirely... all I've read is people saying that you can achieve the same results using leather tips as opposed to phenolic tips...
Again... I hope you are kidding and don't seriously believe this... those are some pretty radical statements.
On the BCAPL website www.playbca.com there will probably be a link to download the June 2009 rules in a PDF format. The rule will probably be under equipment specifications.
If you have a great stroke you dont need bandaids like a phenolic tip all it does is even out the playing field so those that cant hit the ball feel they have a chance now to break like someone who has mastered the break shot. If you got a stroke your okay if you cant stroke then practice more and lay off the bandaids/ cash cows products not intended to help the gameas a sport but to gross fast cash.
I think to see who the great players are now, is to go back to stevens cloth and leather tips. Mechanical bridges would be okay equal to all.
Next would be to lay out standards for tables which will need more research time I think.
I think to see who the great players are now, is to go back to stevens cloth and leather tips. Mechanical bridges would be okay equal to all.
Next would be to lay out standards for tables which will need more research time I think.
i'm curious as well as to how it is worded...... Does it ban all non-leather tips? Or just "phenolic"
break cue only? Or all cues that could be used?
All this whining about a rule, that to my knowledge hasn't been seen yet.
You will have to change the tip on the BK2. But You have to keep in mind when Re-placing the tip make sure you keep the carbon fibre pad on Someone Swede in the river broke his shaft becuse he re-placed his tip and did not keep that carbon fibre thing on.