Louisiana's best pool player.

[JoeyA]

Joey you just forced me to put the DVD back in. Now I have questions. Guess I gotta make the call.

Thanks for the push.

I think you should call Gene first and talk with him. Gene is learning more and more about how people see with their eyes and many of us don't see the same thing the same way and he is discovering how we do see.

PERFECT AIM is on a hot streak based upon the unsolicited testimonies he has been getting in recent weeks.

Go YeaSAYERS!

Just the other day, I discovered that another one of my buddies sees left cut shots better with his left eye than he does his right eye.

On right cuts, he sees the shot better with both eyes. Go figure. Also, we did some quasi-tests to determine his dominant eye and his results were the opposite of my results.

 

[lfigueroa]

Not any more bankrupt than you saying they are loopy without giving them an honest trial, or seeing how they work for others. Just because they may SEEM loopy to you on the surface, does NOT mean that they really are. If they work, they work. If you or someone else doesn't understand them, or can't use them, then that is on you, not on the system.

I have given many systems an honest try and I have seen how others claim some systems work for them. And IMO, some of them are loopy, to put it kindly OTOH, I, as many others, have acknowledged there may be some benefit in some of them for some players. Nothing wrong with that and it doesn't make the "my daddy can beat up your daddy" argument any more logical.

Lou Figueroa

 

[Roger Long]

You are wrong Lou, and you know it. A number of people have asked to name top players that use aiming systems. If you think that the systems are so loopy, why don't you challenge them to a game and show them just how loopy they are?

I believe you are right here, Neil, because I seem to remember asking that question myself, but I wasn't asking about aiming systems in general, I was asking specifically about CTE users. And when I did ask that question, it was at a time when CTE advocates were saying that "many" players were now using CTE; which was a drastically scaled down version of Hal Houle's original claim that "all" professional players used it, but they just didn't want to share it with the rest of us.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I am not opposed to aiming systems. What I am opposed to is the exaggerated claims that some posters come up with in order sell their systems to others. I am also opposed to the overreactions from certain supporters of said systems when those systems are rejected by a few potential "customers." Let's face it, any product or service offered for sale is going to meet with some rejection, and it is common for some customers to be less than polite when they do their rejecting. Unfortunately, that's one of the pitfalls in the sales business.

And yes, I did use the term "for sale." No one here is offering any DVD's for free. Even Geno, who is offering free phone lessons, wants to sell his DVD's and personal lessons. If you don't believe me, just ask him. It's how he makes his living, and there's nothing wrong with that. But in the beginning, he went overboard with his forum spamming, and now he has had to find a way to rechannel his sales efforts so that he doesn't get the boot from the forum administrators. And that's just one of the obstacles one faces when taking advantage of the free advertising this forum offers.

The same goes for Stan Shuffett and Dr. Dave. Both have some great information for sale in the form of DVD's, and (IMO) neither overprices their products. The main difference between the two is that Stan has a few supporters who will hawk his product for him on these forums, and Dave hawks his own. Another difference is that Dave's ads get moved to the For Sale section, whereas Stan's do not. But maybe that's more of a detriment to Stan than it is to Dave since some of Stan's supporters get carried away in their efforts to "help" him out.

Roger

 

[3kushn]

I think you should call Gene first and talk with him. Gene is learning more and more about how people see with their eyes and many of us don't see the same thing the same way and he is discovering how we do see.

PERFECT AIM is on a hot streak based upon the unsolicited testimonies he has been getting in recent weeks.

Go YeaSAYERS!

Just the other day, I discovered that another one of my buddies sees left cut shots better with his left eye than he does his right eye.

On right cuts, he sees the shot better with both eyes. Go figure. Also, we did some quasi-tests to determine his dominant eye and his results were the opposite of my results.

Thats my problem. I didn't watch the whole thing when I got it since it started off with stuff I already knew. Got to the eyes, didn't listen, and I do just the opposite. Left cut Right eye. It works great. Never made such cuts @ 10' on command better in my life. Now I have to see the other way and evaluate pros and cons. Remember I never pocket balls. I got no pockets. But OB control is still a factor.

EDIT: I'm doing it right. My brain wasn't working last night.

 

[peteypooldude]

I think it great to give acknowledgment to a person for their achievements.
I like Gene and I am a supporter of his. He helped me and expected nothing in return. Much like Spiderwebb . Gene figured something out that no one was putting in their thought process. At least I didn't. That combined with a strict PSR coming from CTE /Pro 1 that puts you coming into the shot correctly is huge. These people are achievers. And deserve credit for it.
Very good post :thumbup:

You can correct my typos if you choose lol

 

[Roger Long]

I think it great to give acknowledgment to a person for their achievements.
I like Gene and I am a supporter of his. He helped me and expected nothing in return. Much like Spiderwebb . Gene figured something out that no one was putting in their thought process. At least I didn't. That combined with a strict PSR coming from CTE /Pro 1 that puts you coming into the shot correctly is huge. These people are achievers. And deserve credit for it.
Very good post :thumbup:

You can correct my typos if you choose lol

Good post, Petey. (No need to correct typo's, I understood every word.) :thumbup:

Roger

 

[Celtic]

People don't like for the forum to be spammed with "ads" even if the product is great.

And FREE...

 

[Masayoshi]

Neil's right about you too. "If he makes an attack, it shouldn't go undefended". You and PoolSharkAllen are quite the duo. I guess there will always be people like you and PSA on this forum.

P.S. Worry about your own house cleaning. :wink:

Nope, Neil was actually for the most part out of line with his post, but lets just break it down so you understand.

Gene was doing nothing more than earnestly trying to help others play better pool. He is giving away his info for the price of a phone call.

I acknowledged that he was a good guy and helping people, but my post was in reference to the time when he was exploiting the forums to advertise his product.

Here we have someone that truly wants to help others, goes out of his way to do so, and then we get people like you that can't stand the fact that someone else is so willing to help others, and you feel you have to complain about him helping because you won't do a thing to help others.

I didn't once complain about him helping others and pretty much commended him for it. I did however post about how he was not completely selfless when he first came onto the forum

Get over yourself, and leave it alone.

Get over myself about what? This has nothing to do with me. I stated facts. Facts have nothing to do with ego.

I'll take 100 Gene's over one of you or PoolSharkAllen anyday.

I'm not even sure if this was supposed to be an insult or a compliment.

Obviously 100 Gene's would be a benefit to the forum, 100 Gene's would hold so much knowledge and experience in pool, they would easily overshadow the combined knowledge of all the regular posters at AZB. Bringing up a comparison between me and 100 Gene's is quite flattering actually.

PS. I'm not just going to worry about my own house cleaning. If everyone did that, Gene would still be spamming up the forum and we wouldn't have been able to see the good Gene come out. People who stay quiet about transgressions, regardless of whether they are involved or not, are just as guilty as the transgressors.

 

[Bigtruck]

I have always committed everything to continuous improvement. I'm always working on a way to improve. Even if it's just a little.

I never could understand why some people insist on judging, criticizing and harping on a snapshot of one particular time in someones life, such as when Gene "first came on the forum". To me it says more about the people doing the hating than the one being hated on.

I admire Gene for helping so many to improve. I also admire the way HE continues to improve.

I'm really glad I made that phone call.

Thanks Geno!

 

[Masayoshi]

I have always committed everything to continuous improvement. I'm always working on a way to improve. Even if it's just a little.

I never could understand why some people insist on judging, criticizing and harping on a snapshot of one particular time in someones life, such as when Gene "first came on the forum". To me it says more about the people doing the hating than the one being hated on.

I admire Gene for helping so many to improve. I also admire the way HE continues to improve.

I'm really glad I made that phone call.

Thanks Geno!

Did you even read the post?

Also Gene mostly got shit because every other post of his was an infomercial, not because there was anything wrong with his system, but hes toned it down a lot from when he first started, which is a good thing.

I acknowledged that he got better. JoeyA was complaing about Gene getting shit from AZB posters. I was only explaining the reason why Gene was getting shit (which was also a long time ago, so it fits in context)

 

[cookie man]

Nope, Neil was actually for the most part out of line with his post, but lets just break it down so you understand.


I acknowledged that he was a good guy and helping people, but my post was in reference to the time when he was exploiting the forums to advertise his product.
I didn't once complain about him helping others and pretty much commended him for it. I did however post about how he was not completely selfless when he first came onto the forum


Get over myself about what? This has nothing to do with me. I stated facts. Facts have nothing to do with ego.



I'm not even sure if this was supposed to be an insult or a compliment.

Obviously 100 Gene's would be a benefit to the forum, 100 Gene's would hold so much knowledge and experience in pool, they would easily overshadow the combined knowledge of all the regular posters at AZB. Bringing up a comparison between me and 100 Gene's is quite flattering actually.

PS. I'm not just going to worry about my own house cleaning. If everyone did that, Gene would still be spamming up the forum and we wouldn't have been able to see the good Gene come out. People who stay quiet about transgressions, regardless of whether they are involved or not, are just as guilty as the transgressors.

So how long is Gene's sentence? Get over the past and move on ( main problem with naysayers ), let it go. Gene has more than made up for any wrong with all the FREE phone lessons.

 

[JB Cases]

So Jamie Farrell, top shortstop/low tier pro, room owner, is playing the best pool of his life due to Gene's method.

Great news, thank you Joey.

 

[Roger Long]

So how long is Gene's sentence? Get over the past and move on ( main problem with naysayers ), let it go. Gene has more than made up for any wrong with all the FREE phone lessons.

Cookie,

Couldn't it also be said that the yeasayers might "let it go" by stopping with the demands on the naysayers to "eat crow" and "apologize" for all of their past transgressions? After all, it was with those demands that this thread took a wrong turn from the beginning.

Roger

 

[Masayoshi]

So how long is Gene's sentence? Get over the past and move on ( main problem with naysayers ), let it go. Gene has more than made up for any wrong with all the FREE phone lessons.

Again I said that in reference to Joey's attack which was also concerning things in the past. He needs to get over it first as 99% of the posts from naysayers in the last few months have just been in defense of Joey's rants and attacks.

If Joey brings up how Gene was treated in the past and demands apologies, it is only right that we bring up WHY Gene was treated that way, which at the time was completely deserved, meaning that no apologies are necessary.

I also said Gene got better in that exact post, meaning he has been forgiven. Yeasayer reading comprehension seems to be lacking considering you all unanimously decided to miss that point.

 

[KMRUNOUT]

I have given many systems an honest try and I have seen how others claim some systems work for them. And IMO, some of them are loopy, to put it kindly OTOH, I, as many others, have acknowledged there may be some benefit in some of them for some players. Nothing wrong with that and it doesn't make the "my daddy can beat up your daddy" argument any more logical.

Lou Figueroa

I don't think one can argue with this...(but I guess we will see)

KMRUNOUT

 

[JoeyA]

So Jamie Farrell, top shortstop/low tier pro, room owner, is playing the best pool of his life due to Gene's method.

Great news, thank you Joey.

EXACTLY RIGHT!
And you're welcome.

 

[mikeyfrost]

In Houston they say that Jamie Ferrell guy is a nit. Wouldn't get up and play a guy most people don't know or never heard of. Damnnnnn

 

[JoeyA]

Cookie,

Couldn't it also be said that the yeasayers might "let it go" by stopping with the demands on the naysayers to "eat crow" and "apologize" for all of their past transgressions? After all, it was with those demands that this thread took a wrong turn from the beginning.

Roger

It seems like you are bringing it up now Roger.

Are you attempting to just regurgitate the meal or are you just trying to bring out a little ire in the yeasayers by prodding the sleeping beast?

 

[Roger Long]

It seems like you are bringing it up now Roger.

Are you attempting to just regurgitate the meal or are you just trying to bring out a little ire in the yeasayers by prodding the sleeping beast?

I think my question was honest and reasonable. No regurgitating or prodding intended. Sorry.

Roger

 

[JoeyA]

In Houston they say that Jamie Ferrell guy is a nit. Wouldn't get up and play a guy most people don't know or never heard of. Damnnnnn

I know the guy has played Tony Fargo, head-up banks (long rack-Tony's favorite). Shane Van Boening even up nine ball. John Schmidt even up one pocket and a host of other players at his pool room. If that's the definition of a nit, so be it.

From my own personal observation over a couple of decades of watching MOST POOL PLAYERS gamble, the only reason that someone calls another person a nit is because they can't get the other person to agree to their bet or they're just jealous of the person.

The truth is that MOST gambling POOL PLAYERS will bet it up when they think they have the best of it. When a gambler thinks they are stealing, they grow nuts the size of coconuts and pull money out of their IRA's and call the other player a no-gambling-nit in hopes of making the other person bet.

While I gamble as a hobby and just entertainment, even though Jamie is a far better player than myself, I don't think Jamie thinks about gambling much different than I do, but I could be wrong. I didn't quiz him on his perspective about gambling.

I do know that I am very hesitant to play people who I don't know or have never heard of and so are most gamblers.

I would bet a large sum of money that if I walked in with one of those second tier players from the Philippines in any pool room in America, 99 percent of the gamblers would be snapping pictures, emailing notes, calling on the cell phone, asking their brothers and sisters if they knew anything about this guy and how he played.

But I don't know about the specific situation you are referring to and you might be right but I do see Jamie matching up TOUGH with locals all of the time. When he steps up to play some of the top players, if they know they are stealing they want to bet thousands. When they get asked to play some banks, the top players OFTEN, bow their heads and get a little less nervy. That's just what I've seen. It could be different elsewhere.