Low Cost Cues under $100

Best brand for money

  • Adam

    Votes: 10 8.8%

  • Lucasi

    Votes: 51 45.1%

  • Fury

    Votes: 18 15.9%

  • Actions

    Votes: 7 6.2%

  • Players

    Votes: 27 23.9%
  • Total voters
    113
poolplayer2093 said:
i actually get better results with a leather tip, but that could just be me. i bought a friend of mine a j&j for christmas and it breaks like a freight train!

i've never heard of panther. can you post a link to where you found it? if you've tried it and like it i think you should go for it. with the j&j though even if you don't like it it'll be easy to get your cash back out of it
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http://www.jjcue.com/jjcue-jumpbkcue.htm Here is the link for it, I don't know for sure if that is the brand you were talking about. The Panther is the one at the very bottom of the page. I don't think it is a J&J, I got confused because it was all listed with the J&Js. Which J&J did you buy for your friend? I like a wrapless cue, so if I go with a J&J I will go with the either the 2719F or 2729F, I like a more subtle look in a cue. Thanks, I never tried to break with a phenolic tip so I might have to change out to a hard leather if I don't like the phenolic tip.

Chino
 
i for one, will only buy American. Its no coincidence that our economy is trashed and our import/export ratio with china is incredibly one sided. they don't want our products over there, but our greedy corporate scabs will move American jobs over there in a heartbeat to save 25 cents. It's more than just patriotism, its common sense. If you move products overseas, there is less work here, and less money to be spent. If we keep sending our jobs to china, say goodbye to freedom, and learn to speak Chinese, because that is how they will defeat us, not by military force, but by foreclosure! As far as quality goes, my criteria are feel, type of wood, fit and function, and reputation. Im not saying you can't buy a Chinese made que with Quality, just that I will spend my money on American made cues like Joss, or Pechauer that are just as good, if not better. just my thoughts on another thing I can't change......
 
snipershot said:
i for one, will only buy American. Its no coincidence that our economy is trashed and our import/export ratio with china is incredibly one sided. they don't want our products over there, but our greedy corporate scabs will move American jobs over there in a heartbeat to save 25 cents. It's more than just patriotism, its common sense. If you move products overseas, there is less work here, and less money to be spent. If we keep sending our jobs to china, say goodbye to freedom, and learn to speak Chinese, because that is how they will defeat us, not by military force, but by foreclosure! As far as quality goes, my criteria are feel, type of wood, fit and function, and reputation. Im not saying you can't buy a Chinese made que with Quality, just that I will spend my money on American made cues like Joss, or Pechauer that are just as good, if not better. just my thoughts on another thing I can't change......
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Sorry to bold and supersize your font, hope that doesn't offend you, not my intention at all. But looks like you went a little over the $100 mark buddy.
 
chin0 said:
http://www.jjcue.com/jjcue-jumpbkcue.htm Here is the link for it, I don't know for sure if that is the brand you were talking about. The Panther is the one at the very bottom of the page. I don't think it is a J&J, I got confused because it was all listed with the J&Js. Which J&J did you buy for your friend? I like a wrapless cue, so if I go with a J&J I will go with the either the 2719F or 2729F, I like a more subtle look in a cue. Thanks, I never tried to break with a phenolic tip so I might have to change out to a hard leather if I don't like the phenolic tip.

Chino
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i got my buddy model 2729. it breaks pretty good. there's really nothing wrong with the phenolic tips that're out there. when i use them i just have to focus more on keeping the tip near the center of the cue ball
 
JB Cases said:
Let's see, you tell me not to take it personally in the same sentence that you insult me in. How is that supposed to work? In America you pay to sweat in China we pay people to sweat. :-)

Seriously though you don't get it. All I ever care about is the quality. I wouldn't say a word if I didn't believe in what we sell and I wouldn't sell it if I didn't believe in it.

You don't have to bet a thousand. In fact I will pay you $100 to come up with a list of points that we all can agree on make a quality cue.

Start a new thread and show us that you can define what a quality cue is.

My only criteria is that you use points that can be felt and judged by the average person who has your list in his or her hand.

In other words saying a quality cue is only one that has aged shaft wood from the easternmost windward side of Lake Superior is something that is impossible for a consumer to know if it's true or not just by picking up the cue.

This is my living, I take it personally when people make comments that are untrue about the things I sell. Make true statements and back them up and then there isn't any argument. But I have spent two years here inspecting cues, testing cues, helping to make an already great cue factory better. And I am the least knowledgeable of the people who contributed which includes a long line of great cuemakers that have been here to teach these folks how to build good cues.

It's well known for example that Bill Stroud was paid to consult with the factory that makes Lucasi and Players cues. I can tell you that well known, respected, and long time cue makers who currently make some of the world's best cues have contributed to our factory's current expertise.

So, yeah, I take it really personal when anyone craps on my profession without facts.

I guess I will quit being defensive when others quit being offensive.
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honestly JB, you made it about your whole china thing.. no one said anything about the poor craftsmanship of the chinese.

You should stick to the topic and not make people feel like they have sinned or are morons because their line of thinking isn't how you like it or their logic wasn't completely flawless. This isn't a challenge of intellects, this is a courteous discussion on cues.

This isn't about bashing chinese products, either, it's about someone asking a question about the best playing cue for under 100 USD.

I like the way my Lucasi plays and if you can get one for under 100, that would be a good option. I haven't hit with a Schmelke or Adams, but they both seem to have lots of support.
 
chin0 said:
Sorry to bold and supersize your font, hope that doesn't offend you, not my intention at all. But looks like you went a little over the $100 mark buddy.
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if you don't mind it being plane and used you can find either of those two for a hundo or less.

spend more and have most of the money stay stateside or spend less and have all of the money leave the country.

i'll pay a little more to buy american. the quality'll be at least equal and if i have a problem i get the feeling it'll be easier to deal with a local company
 
poolplayer2093 said:
if you don't mind it being plane and used you can find either of those two for a hundo or less.

spend more and have most of the money stay stateside or spend less and have all of the money leave the country.

i'll pay a little more to buy american. the quality'll be at least equal and if i have a problem i get the feeling it'll be easier to deal with a local company
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I like the 2729F, I might go with it, but I am still waiting, right now I am breaking with a house cue, and I have no problem with it for now. I don't play good enough to notice any diference. I just want one :o

I thought we were refering to new cues rather than used, but yes you are correct about a used one. I really like how Pechauer and Joss looks. Never played with either, but have heard nothing but good things about it so far on the forum. Thanks for the help.

Happy shooting! :)

Chino
 
chin0 said:
I like the 2729F, I might go with it, but I am still waiting, right now I am breaking with a house cue, and I have no problem with it for now. I don't play good enough to notice any diference. I just want one :o

I thought we were refering to new cues rather than used, but yes you are correct about a used one. I really like how Pechauer and Joss looks. Never played with either, but have heard nothing but good things about it so far on the forum. Thanks for the help.

Happy shooting! :)

Chino
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break cues and jump cues are luxuries. if you don't feel like spending money on one don't worry about it. there's nothing at all wrong with using house cues(for breaking and for playing with)
 
Haha, I'm still learning on how to shoot straight, gotta learn how to crawl before I can walk. Thanks for the tip.

Chino
 
I will be stocking more soon

Mr. Wilson said:
Palmer America...
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Well, they are not actually made by them. They are imported by them.
These are manufactured by Kao Kao. I feel Kao Kao is one of the better factories in China. They also supply many of the other importers.
Thanks for the good words Dave. Its got to be a couple of years you have had yours. By Gosh people what do you know? Nothing has falling off of it yet.:rolleyes::grin: :grin-square: These are nice cues
 
Da Bank said:
honestly JB, you made it about your whole china thing.. no one said anything about the poor craftsmanship of the chinese.

You should stick to the topic and not make people feel like they have sinned or are morons because their line of thinking isn't how you like it or their logic wasn't completely flawless. This isn't a challenge of intellects, this is a courteous discussion on cues.

This isn't about bashing chinese products, either, it's about someone asking a question about the best playing cue for under 100 USD.

I like the way my Lucasi plays and if you can get one for under 100, that would be a good option. I haven't hit with a Schmelke or Adams, but they both seem to have lots of support.
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See Grumpy's post.

It was a courteous discussion on cues until that point.
 
snipershot said:
i for one, will only buy American. Its no coincidence that our economy is trashed and our import/export ratio with china is incredibly one sided. they don't want our products over there, but our greedy corporate scabs will move American jobs over there in a heartbeat to save 25 cents. It's more than just patriotism, its common sense. If you move products overseas, there is less work here, and less money to be spent. If we keep sending our jobs to china, say goodbye to freedom, and learn to speak Chinese, because that is how they will defeat us, not by military force, but by foreclosure! As far as quality goes, my criteria are feel, type of wood, fit and function, and reputation. Im not saying you can't buy a Chinese made que with Quality, just that I will spend my money on American made cues like Joss, or Pechauer that are just as good, if not better. just my thoughts on another thing I can't change......
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Where was the computer built that you are typing on. They said the same thing about the Japenese too, that they would buy up America and we'd all have to learn to speak Japanese. What happened? Their economy heated up with the increase in exports, their people became more affluent and demanded more wages, their real estate market shot up, and then the bubble burst and corporate America still belongs to corporate Americans and Japanese isn't mandatory in schools.

If you only knew how the world really works. For example I bet you'd be surprised to know who sells wood to Chinese cue makers. America was never and never will be a land that doesn't trade with the rest of the world. America is comprised of people from places foreign to it's shores. The only "Americans" who have a right to complain are the ones who walked there and lived there and cultivated the land long before they were conquered by war, disease, and trickery brought by outsiders.

I understand your "buy American" position but as long as you are an advocate for "workfare" in that you prefer to subsidize jobs that aren't economically feasible for business to maintain in the USA then why don't you at the same time also mandate that every person working should receive a fair living wage and be guaranteed health care?

It seems to me that the more people who purchase their own $100 or less cue means that there will be more people playing. And more people playing means more money overall will spent on billiards in the USA. If the USA producers cannot produce attractive and decent cues for a price that allows them to profit at $100 then there is no reason why import brands can't fill that void.

In my 20+ years I have seen lots of people buy the cheaper cues and then a year or so later they are ready to invest in a "better" or more prestigious one.

The economy is not black and white. The reason the economy is in the toilet right now has just about ZERO to do with imports and has everything to do with greed, ignorance, and rampant consumerism. People who can't afford a house and land should not get loans for houses and land. Period. Your fellow Americans built a house of cards by preying on their fellow Americans and the big banks sold this rotten fruit to other banks around the world. Then when it all collapsed as every house of cards does all you are left with is a bunch of litter. You can buy American all you want to but you will not be able to save people from themselves.

Get a house with zero down, no credit check, here, have another credit card so you can fill that house with big screen tv's. Move farther away from where you work so that you need a car just to go to the grocery store, build more and more strip malls to cater to people living in neighborhoods built from 2x4's that any half-decent tornado can take down in minutes. That's your America where the economy is in the toilet.

This has nothing to do with China as much as it has to do with our own erosion in values and continuing ignorance of what has value.

"Buy American" is nothing more than a band-aid on a gaping wound. A much better way to do your part would be to say "don't be frivolous and buy VALUE".

If that value comes to you in the form a decent quality $100 imported cue then buy it and do something smart with the savings. If it comes to you in saving a little bit and buying a $150 McDermott or Viking or other well known brand then that's equally great.
 
wow, i could not disagree more. the only reason it is cheaper for China to make these "VALUE" items is because they are communist bastards that will not allow their people to learn how bad they get screwed. Im sure some people think that chinese people love going to work 12 hours a day 7 days a week for $30 a week. Oh and the working conditions are so safe and eco friendly. you make it sound like its my fault that I am not willing to risk my life to built an elmo doll, or whatever piece of fad material is in fashion. Im sure the chinese people are good workers, but thats not to say they are any better than me. I for one believe in the USA, and I will not throw in the towel and say "oh well, guess I'll buy the cheap one". When I was in the U.S. Marines, we had a saying that applies to every group of people, "Its always that 10 percent." that 10 percent that screws everything up and makes everyone else look bad. I agree with you on the whole banks giving bad loans, and people screwing themselves, however, there were hundreds of thousands of people that were doing fine, working everyday, making their house payments, and boom, pinkslip. There is nothing they can do, I know if I lose my income, there is a snowball's chance in hell of me even coming close to replacing it. I would be lucky to find a job that pays half of what I make now. anyway, my point is, maybe you are right about the banks, but as far as moving jobs overseas, that is never a good thing. Its almost impossible for us middle class manufacturing workers to compete with the un-educated, abused, under-paid, overworked, workers in China. with that said, they may be able to do it cheaper and faster, but they will never do it better. Sure in the early days Japan was the same way, but the difference here is that Japan was not a stonewall Communist nation. We are sleeping with the enemy. I am all for trade, but with the import/export ratio so one sided, thats hardly "trade", that is a flat ou assult on the working American people. Im going to shut up now, sorry for the rant.
 
Chino, kc custoom cues are supposedly made in the usa, and I think they start at 100.
 
Who told you that?

snipershot said:
Chino, kc custoom cues are supposedly made in the usa, and I think they start at 100.
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Then they must have imported the chinese people to make them.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
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