Magic Rack

Mark Griffin said:
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Magic Ball Rack is the best thing to come along in a long time.
It works great!!

Mark Griffin
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I am the TD for the Texas Open which was held last weekend. When told of it I was as skeptical as anyone could be.
At this event it has become famous for 2 or 3 who cry and whine over and over about the rack. This past weekend there was only one complaint and I simply exchanged racks and the issue died.
There were two nine balls made on the break all weekend.
We had 128 players in the open division and 32 in the ladies division. Last year we finished at 6AM Tuesday am. This year with `128 and 32 players we were done at almost 2 am.
Plus the biggest rack manipulator in Texas was silent all weekend.
I have become a big fan of the Magic Rack.
 
JesseBfan said:
Matches go much quicker not only because we're both making balls on the break but also because it's completely effortless to repeat a completely frozen rack.

I will go so far as to say "the magic rack has made me enjoy pool more than I ever have before".
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Give it time. The product is young and few players have thought through it. One of these days the pool player is going to figure out that if the ball on the break is guaranteed, then the next step is to say just toss the ball on the break and the Magic Rack too. It's not needed. Shoot after the break anyway. Evolution happens.

What happened to the Sardo Rack? The Magic Rack is so similar.
 
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Neil said:
It's not the rack, it's the breaker.
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I play 8-ball extensively. When breaking, there's no question in my mind that the balls spread much better with the Magic Rack. Compared to a Delta-13, the Magic Rack definitely increases the odds of pocketing at least one ball on the break.
 
JesseBfan said:
we're both making balls on the break.
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We were rolling the cue ball with our hand at the head ball and the wing ball was going every time (using the Magic Rack). I don't know what you are all thinking about. I think the Magic rack exercise is pointless.
 
Majic said:
Its made from thin paper so it could last anywhere up to 6 months, imo. It would probably last much longer if the material were mylar instead of paper.
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I never saw one made of paper. Mine is some sort of thin plastic. I think with careful handling it could last years.
 
Paul Schofield said:
Isn't a Magic Rack just a trick shot template? A customer came in a few months ago and pulled out his Magic Rack and made the corner ball every time. What does all this have to do with playing good pool?

Furthermore, does the Magic Rack promote pattern racking?
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Isn't a wooden rack used properly just a trick shot setup device? If you make the corner ball every time, then your opponent does too. It eliminates cheating...that's what it has to do with good pool. Also, you spend the time playing, rather than racking. I like playing better.

KMRUNOUT
 
Paul Schofield said:
Give it time. The product is young and few players have thought through it. One of these days the pool player is going to figure out that if the ball on the break is guaranteed, then the next step is to say just toss the ball on the break and the Magic Rack too. It's not needed. Shoot after the break anyway. Evolution happens.

What happened to the Sardo Rack? The Magic Rack is so similar.
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The magic rack has almost nothing in common with the Sardo rack. The Sardo has many disadvantages including:
--its expensive
--it requires a bit of skill to use
--you have to "train" the table to use it properly
--if you EVER rack on the table without using it, or using it improperly, you ruin its effectiveness
--It takes a minimum of 20 minutes or more to set up on another table, so it isn't very easy to bring from table to table.
--it isn't nearly as portable as the magic rack. You can put it in your cue case.

So all of those issues are what happened to the Sardo rack. The fact that the magic rack can be used properly on the first try by someone with no experience, on ANY table at ANY time, and is really very cheap all make it the best solution available today.

KMRUNOUT
 
Paul Schofield said:
We were rolling the cue ball with our hand at the head ball and the wing ball was going every time (using the Magic Rack). I don't know what you are all thinking about. I think the Magic rack exercise is pointless.
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You are describing a problem with the fundamental concept of the 9 ball rack, not the device used to achieve it. Whenever something done perfectly yields a bad result, then it is the thing you are trying to do that is wrong, not the method.

KMRUNOUT
 
KMRUNOUT said:
I never saw one made of paper. Mine is some sort of thin plastic. I think with careful handling it could last years.
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I was reading about them and when they first came out they were some kind of paper, the plastic is the current or modern version.

I've never played with it, but I like the concept. The only thing more annoying than fiddling with balls that won't stay put or tight is waiting and waiting for your opponent to finally get a good rack together for you.

Too bad they aren't available everywhere for $1 or so.
 
Jason Robichaud said:
Who here is using it and do others have a problem getting other players to use it. At the room I play, some are saying its cheating??? Why getting a perfect rack is cheating, I'm not sure. Why people want to deal with 9's off the break or slug racks, I don't understand.

This thing is giving me a perfect rack every time on tables that don't rack that good. I guess some are happy spending $150 on racks that still won't freeze the balls. Maybe $10 is just too cheap and what they mean is, its stealing.
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Me either, but rest assured, if you built a table and were able to rack 9ball perfect every time and the table played perfect, people would complain. Most of the complaints would be based under the illusion of what good pool actually is.
 
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PoolSharkAllen said:
I play 8-ball extensively. When breaking, there's no question in my mind that the balls spread much better with the Magic Rack. Compared to a Delta-13, the Magic Rack definitely increases the odds of pocketing at least one ball on the break.
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That is one of the things I love about it. IMO, today pool needs a more offensive mind set. It has become far too boring for the average spectator and costing the game dearly.
 
I could see the magic rack working well for 9 ball tournaments, but I still have mixed feelings. The 9 ball rack is too wired to begin with. The MR just makes it bordering on ridiculous. Still, if its alternating breaks I suppose its fair no matter what. I guess I like it for amateur ABCD, but nothing beyond.

For 10 ball though, I really like it much more because of the nature of the rack itself.
 
What I find ironic is that the rules have always said that the balls must be touching each other, but it is magic rack (and similar setups, ie. tapping) that have really enabled it. I guess you can get perfect racks if you have a new cloth and a proficient racker, but that's not always the case. Just look at what happened at last year's US Open. I predict that this year players are not allowed to inspect the rack at all. :-)
 
Figuring out how to use the Magic Rack

Some pros HAVE figured out how to increase their break advantage. Example, The Seminole 10 Ball tour used the Magic Rack. Mike Deschane won the break against Johnny Archer, winner breaks and ran (according to Mark Griffin BCA), 7 1/2 straight racks and out. Johnny didn't get to shoot! (don't get me wrong...GREAT SHOOTING), but Deschane learned how to break with the Magic Rack and made a ball EVERY TIME ! The only way to make a match fair using the Magic Rack is to alternate breaks.
F.Y.I. and I.M.H.O.


Paul Schofield said:
Give it time. The product is young and few players have thought through it. One of these days the pool player is going to figure out that if the ball on the break is guaranteed, then the next step is to say just toss the ball on the break and the Magic Rack too. It's not needed. Shoot after the break anyway. Evolution happens.

What happened to the Sardo Rack? The Magic Rack is so similar.
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use MBR....9 on the spot and use breakbox with 4 balls in pocket or in kitchen...I know it is a lot of "extra" rules but only way to really get same breaking-conditions for both players...

hell...let us turn the 9b rack other way....you have to break by playing your cue ball to the bottom cushion and kick on the 9 :)
 
9-ball is too easy for pro level players no matter how you rack them. 10-ball, 12-ball, or 15-ball would be better for pro level tournaments. 10-ball breaking from the side rail to one diamond out and a foot or less from the back rail would be ideal. Johnnyt
 
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