It's called Coltan.
Man charged for trading ivory
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It's called Coltan.
this thread is so much fun
ivory used for inlays aside, is there a difference (opinion poll would be nice) when using "ivory replacement" materials for joints or ferrules? (hit wise of course) i've never had a juma ferrule or joint so i wouldn't know.
i know this thread wasn't intended to address a moral or legal stand on ivory use in cues but i need to throw in my two cents for fun:
personally i could care less where the ivory ferrules on the two cues i own come from, because i already know, they came from an elephant - preban, postban...whatever. the source is dead already. all i know is that i like the way my ivory ferrules hit. if i can find a substitute that performs just as well i'd gladly change, but does using it bother me.......no. why?
i didn't cry while eating my steak last night
or during my three egg breakfast from all those poor chickens forced to lay like crazy
or while fueling my truck
or while smoking too close to a public entrance
or while shopping at wal-mart
etc.
while it's very admirable that we have all these liberal left wingers constantly pointing fingers at the rest of us whom are apparently born out of a shallow gene pool. they should all realize that unless the world adopts some type of "Logan's Run" policy (reference to the movie of course) we're inevitably "going to eat ourselves out of house and home" anyways.
we're humans, as long as we want to live, and live longer, we will alway consume more and more. there is no end.
i'm just glad that two guys didn't run into the poolhall where i was playing yesterday, beat me up, and then cut the ferrules and inlays out of my cue.:grin:
ivory used for inlays aside, is there a difference (opinion poll would be nice) when using "ivory replacement" materials for joints or ferrules? (hit wise of course) i've never had a juma ferrule or joint so i wouldn't know.
i know this thread wasn't intended to address a moral or legal stand on ivory use in cues but i need to throw in my two cents for fun:
personally i could care less where the ivory ferrules on the two cues i own come from, because i already know, they came from an elephant - preban, postban...whatever. the source is dead already. all i know is that i like the way my ivory ferrules hit. if i can find a substitute that performs just as well i'd gladly change, but does using it bother me.......no. why?
i didn't cry while eating my steak last night
or during my three egg breakfast from all those poor chickens forced to lay like crazy
or while fueling my truck
or while smoking too close to a public entrance
or while shopping at wal-mart
etc.
while it's very admirable that we have all these liberal left wingers constantly pointing fingers at the rest of us whom are apparently born out of a shallow gene pool. they should all realize that unless the world adopts some type of "Logan's Run" policy (reference to the movie of course) we're inevitably "going to eat ourselves out of house and home" anyways.
we're humans, as long as we want to live, and live longer, we will alway consume more and more. there is no end.
i'm just glad that two guys didn't run into the poolhall where i was playing yesterday, beat me up, and then cut the ferrules and inlays out of my cue.:grin:
A thought experiment...
Why aren't Rock Hard Maple trees endangered?
Jeff Livingston
Sorry to quote myself, but just found this on NPR and thought it had to be posted here:
Jeff livingston
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Thats hilarious!
Funny that you would finally show up on AZ after I tried getting you to check info on cues on the site a couple of years ago. I had an AZer from Mississippi asking me about you and your cues at Nationals in May, and another recently from Meridian while I was working in Houston . I thought you were still in the Phillipines again getting materials.
Somewhere I'm sure I still have pics of a bunch of your cues,I'll have to dig around and look...
Been a long time...
Reminds me of an article that Thomas Wayne wrote about the minimum amount of tools needed to build a cue. And he told a story of a guy that whittled a treebranch all winter and brought it in to have him put a tip on it,before taking it to play.......and apparently it wasn't too bad of a cue! Add a genuine Armadillo tusk Ivory ferrule to it,and LoneStar beer sticker to it,and we got a winner!
Where's my old Barlow at.....?lol
I don't see why cues need ivory anyway, they are just as good without it and wouldn't effect anything. I know it looks nice but under the clearcoat other materials look just as good.
Removing the demand is the first step. What purpose does ivory serve in anything anyway?
Removing the demand is the first step. What purpose does ivory serve in anything anyway?
Ivory or no ivory?
So much talk about Ivory poaching, endangered species and all that shit. It's depressing! I agree though, if it is against the law we shouldn't deal with it. What difference is Ivory or Ivorine going to make for your skills? It dosen't improve the playability of the cue. It's all a bunch of B.S.. Give me a well built sneaky pete at an affordable price and I'm happy!
Lets get back to pool and billiards people!
So much talk about Ivory poaching, endangered species and all that shit. It's depressing! I agree though, if it is against the law we shouldn't deal with it. What difference is Ivory or Ivorine going to make for your skills? It dosen't improve the playability of the cue. It's all a bunch of B.S.. Give me a well built sneaky pete at an affordable price and I'm happy!
Lets get back to pool and billiards people!
You don't think that ivory used as a joint or ferrule material contributes to the playing and feel characteristics of a cue? I think it most definitely does.
If ivory is illegal then people shouldn't deal in it but two things occur to me.
The tips for pool cues are made from the hides of dead cows, water buffalo, elk etc. I don't hear anybody howling about that.
A young kid was recently murdered in my town who was related to a Missouri football player and in town to watch a Missouri football game. All 6 of the thugs who participated in the murder had criminal records, one guy had a conviction for drug trafficing and weapons in 2008 and was back on the street. Given a choice of who to lock up I would rather see the violent sociopaths locked up than they guy making pool cues from ivory.
The tips for pool cues are made from the hides of dead cows, water buffalo, elk etc. I don't hear anybody howling about that.
A young kid was recently murdered in my town who was related to a Missouri football player and in town to watch a Missouri football game. All 6 of the thugs who participated in the murder had criminal records, one guy had a conviction for drug trafficing and weapons in 2008 and was back on the street. Given a choice of who to lock up I would rather see the violent sociopaths locked up than they guy making pool cues from ivory.
Because steak taste good .
Joey~Wishes this thread would just die in extinction~
Diddo......
If people stopped using ivory it wouldn't be an issue.
Likewise, if you stopped using oxygen it wouldn't be an issue. Both are from the Earth and both will always be used.
I didn't have a good connection to the internet then. just recently....
how have you been?
Pre-ban ivory is not illegal, and according to others plentiful.
As for our justice system, many states pass the 3 strikes law. Along with upgrading misdemeanors to felonies, makes no distinction between a violent\non-violent felony. This takes away the judicial discretion of judges, to judge the crime and dispense justice.
As for our justice system, many states pass the 3 strikes law. Along with upgrading misdemeanors to felonies, makes no distinction between a violent\non-violent felony. This takes away the judicial discretion of judges, to judge the crime and dispense justice.