Mark Griffin---What I Know

Greg/Diamond

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I hesitated responding to any post concerning Marks new vision on the future of Pool, thinking my input would be considered slanted, obviously Diamond would benefit financially from such an endeavor. But what the heck, people are going to believe what they want anyway. Besides, I have a lot of insider information that would be beneficial in making an intelligent decision whether or not to jump on his band wagon.

I may as well say this now. Marks financial involvement in Diamond came at a time that I have to say saved Diamond and led to what it is today! Sure, some other person could have stepped up, as we were seeking funds to build 250 smart tables and get the company going, but Mark did what he promised and even exceeded the amounts first discussed. I'm not trying to slight anyone, because many people filled important positions in getting the company going, but without Mark's help, who knows?

I just returned from the BCA tournament in Vegas. Many people may not be aware why or how Mark acquired the ownership of this prestigious event. This is a long story, however I'm going to try and give you the short version, if I can...... Mark came to Diamonds rescue. I had been waiting for several years to bid on the use of Diamond tables in the BCA amateur event. I don't remember the exact year, but Diamond won the bid for the Professional Tournament on ESPN during the BCA League, using our tables. ........This is a yearly bid and was a big step for Diamond at that time, $25,000 plus expenses......... During that time we also asked to bid on the amateur tournament, approx. 250 tables. We were informed no one had ever asked to bid on the amateur tournament before, but we insured the BCA 3 different times that we were serious. .........End result a multi year contract came into being, without a BCA board meeting,,,,,, that kept us out for years!!! Definitely IMO illegal, rather than waste money and time in court we decided to seek the 250 APA Tournament to introduce our new Smart Tables and wait on the BCA contract to expire, then bid........ { Looks like any chance of a short version isn't going to work!}....... Anyway that's where Mark comes in. He buys the BCA League allowing us to use Diamond Tables in the BCA League, not knowing it would cost us our relationship with the APA! Then poor Mark finds himself in a terrible fight for survival of the league he just bought, being confronted by a new league called ACS run by the previous person in charge of the league he just purchased? The rest is history! Mark pulled it off!! The BCA League is growing! And I think evolving! ......... Just wanted to show his commitment to business and his ability to work hard and fight for what he believes in!!

Something else I think warrants mentioning. Sure Mark is working for the benefit of Diamond of which he has is a partner, but it's way more than that. He?s out for POOL. Did anyone notice that Mark allowed Brunswick tables at his BCA event. He sure didn't have to! Also he helped Dragon Promotions and Predator move their event out of a pool room to a higher stage with more exposure for all involved. Two professional events at an amateur tournament allowed the pros a chance for more needed income as well as entertaining and inspiring his league members to improve.

It's getting late. My hours are all turned around and I type to *** slow. Last thing I've got to say is there's much more to mention that Mark has done to help Pool, but I'm getting tired and more can be said later..I'm not going to say how much money Mark has, but I will say he's not Bill Gates and he's digging deep in his pockets with all the pool related hats he's wearing. So all the people who want pool to be all it can be, please help him, he can make it happen with you're help!!! Many of his friends call him "Lucky Mark" and I believe I know why!!
 
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You two have probably done more for pool in the US than anybody currently on the planet. Thanks.
 
Greg/Diamond said:
...Anyway that's where Mark comes in. He buys the BCA League allowing us to use Diamond Tables in the BCA League, not knowing it would cost us our relationship with the APA! Then poor Mark finds himself in a terrible fight for survival of the league he just bought, being confronted by a new league called ACS run by the previous person in charge of the league he just purchased? The rest is history!....

This explains volumes, why the ACS run by John Lewis, the ex-BCA employee, came out with a press release supporting the UPA in recent times.

Greg/Diamond said:
...End result a multi year contract came into being, without a BCA board meeting,,,,,, that kept us out for years!!! Definitely IMO illegal...

That is EXACTLY, EXACTLY, EXACTLY what I have heard about the way the BCA ran its operations years ago.

In fact, one year the Hall of Fame inductees were voted in by a teleconference, "All in favor say aye, and the ayes have it," with not one member of that Hall of Fame Committee knowing how many votes were cast for who. It was as if whoever was moderating the teleconference picked who they wanted to induct in the Hall of Fame, but they just went through the teleconference and aye/nay voting as a formality.

Thanks for your comments, Greg. Always a pleasure to see you post on AzBilliards. Hope you and yours are happy and doing well! :)

JAM
 
Hugh Hefner is his uncle. He inherited a bordello and sold it for major $'s:D .





In reality, I have no idea. I do know that he is a business man and makes smart decisions. I have a TON of respect for Mark:).
 
jay helfert said:
BINGO!!!! :)
Oddly enough, a Bingo parlor was his first big business here in Anchorage. That is what got the ball rolling, and he parlayed it into what he has now.
Chuck
 
RiverCity said:
Oddly enough, a Bingo parlor was his first big business here in Anchorage. That is what got the ball rolling, and he parlayed it into what he has now.
Chuck

Really!! What a lucky guess :) :D :rolleyes: ;)
 
Greg/Diamond said:
Anyway that's where Mark comes in. He buys the BCA League allowing us to use Diamond Tables in the BCA League, not knowing it would cost us our relationship with the APA!

This bit doesn't make much sense to me.

By "using Diamond tables in the BCA league", do you mean the weekly leagues around the country? Or are you talking about the larger events still?

And if you're talking about the weekly leagues - how would that affect Diamond's relationship with the APA, other than APA folks simply getting into a snit and dissolving the relationship? I don't see weekly leagues moving en masse into rooms that have Diamond tables, now they can play on them, and hence knocking APA leagues out...

If this is asking for none-of-my-business type info, by all means, say so. :)
 
ScottW said:
This bit doesn't make much sense to me.

By "using Diamond tables in the BCA league", do you mean the weekly leagues around the country? Or are you talking about the larger events still?

And if you're talking about the weekly leagues - how would that affect Diamond's relationship with the APA, other than APA folks simply getting into a snit and dissolving the relationship? I don't see weekly leagues moving en masse into rooms that have Diamond tables, now they can play on them, and hence knocking APA leagues out...

If this is asking for none-of-my-business type info, by all means, say so. :)
Sorry Scott and everyone, I know better than posting late nite and not enough proof reading. Anyway what happened was the BCA Board deceided to sell the BCA pool league including the Vegas Tournament. I had been waiting for the table contrac for that tournament to expire so I could bid and use Diamonds in the future. If Valley or someone who wanted to use Valleys bought the BCA I would never get the oportunity I'd been waiting for. Mark bought the BCA pool league and saved the day. However, since Mark was a partner in Diamond the APA viewed Mark as a competition to their business and felt Diamond having access to their league operators at their main Vegas Tournament might be in a position to have their members switch to BCA. With time passing Diamond has had the oportunity to prove We had no intension of any switching members. Diamond supports ALL league play and tournaments even on competing tables as shown by the recent Brunswick tables used at Marks event. Hoped this helped!
 
Sheesh... "having access" to their LOs? It's not like Mark or any other BCA league high mucky-muck couldn't just *show up* to any of their events and start trying to schmooze their LOs.

And besides, if an APA LO is open to the idea of bailing on the APA in favor of the BCA or any other league, then that's telling of how the APA treats their LOs, IMHO.

Sounds like a real knee-jerk reaction on the APA's part. *shrug*
 
Thanks Greg. You may recall that we met at this year's DCC where I sponsored Allision, Kim Shaw and Bobby Pickle.

I can only speak for myself, but I could care less about any "conflicts of interest" between Mark's position with Diamond and any tour he might create.

Hell, the whole point of the free enterprise system is to achieve "unfair advantages"! (Kidding....sort of)

Diamond doesn't have a 100% market share but I can't imagine anyone complaining about Diamond tables being used as any given event...except Brunswick and Ohlausen!! (-:

Diamond makes GREAT tables and via the DCC and other initiatives is doing a LOT for the game of pool.

Best wishes for all you and Mark are doing.

Regards,
Jim
 
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