Masters Of "Treachery"

hemicudas

hemicudas

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There have been many treacherous players over the years. I have personally known many of them. But,,,,at the top of my list would have to be "Detroit Bob" Dancer. If Dancer were to read this thread I know exactly what his response would be,,,,,,,,,"Thank you, we try".

If you were cutting money with Bob Dancer and the total count of the score was $500 and he handed you $250,,,,,he did the counting.

If you and Bob Dancer were gambling and you won,,,,,he would get you in a corner, motion to some wino sitting at the bar, tell you that was his stake horse and he was dumping the guy and wanted his end.

Dancer and I made a very nice score in Hattiesburg, MS one night. We headed back towards Jackson with me driving. Dancer saw a man with a gas can standing on the side of the road. He tells me to pull over and let's help the guy. I pull over and Dancer asks the guy if we can help him. The guy says, "Yea if you wouldn't mind. I've run out of gas". Dancer tells the guy to give him the can and asks how much he gas he wants? The guy hands Dancer $5 and the gas can. Dancer tells the guy we'll be right back. I drive off and a mile down the road Dancer throws the gas can out the window.

Bob Dancer is my choice and I'm stickin with it. Who's yours???
 
Besides the fact that mentioning names on here can cause problems....I dont really feel that this is a topic that can in any way be constructed as positive for pool. There are shady people in all walks of life, lets try to focus on bringing out the brighter side of pool. JMO.

Southpaw
 
Detroit Whitey

I've never met him, nor do I want to, but I've heard from many players who I greatly admire and trust, it would have to be Ed "Detroit Whitey" Beauchene. Too many of them have the same opinion of the guy for it not to be accurate.
 
hemicudas said:
There have been many treacherous players over the years. I have personally known many of them. But,,,,at the top of my list would have to be "Detroit Bob" Dancer. If Dancer were to read this thread I know exactly what his response would be,,,,,,,,,"Thank you, we try".

If you were cutting money with Bob Dancer and the total count of the score was $500 and he handed you $250,,,,,he did the counting.

If you and Bob Dancer were gambling and you won,,,,,he would get you in a corner, motion to some wino sitting at the bar, tell you that was his stake horse and he was dumping the guy and wanted his end.

Dancer and I made a very nice score in Hattiesburg, MS one night. We headed back towards Jackson with me driving. Dancer saw a man with a gas can standing on the side of the road. He tells me to pull over and let's help the guy. I pull over and Dancer asks the guy if we can help him. The guy says, "Yea if you wouldn't mind. I've run out of gas". Dancer tells the guy to give him the can and asks how much he gas he wants? The guy hands Dancer $5 and the gas can. Dancer tells the guy we'll be right back. I drive off and a mile down the road Dancer throws the gas can out the window.

Bob Dancer is my choice and I'm stickin with it. Who's yours???
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LMFAO That's a good story. Did you get $2.50 out of the deal?
 
3RAILKICK said:
LMFAO That's a good story. Did you get $2.50 out of the deal?
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I didn't expect to be offered the $2.50, 3RK and wouldn't have taken it. I'm sure Dancer knew that.
 
GEORGE WALKER, owner of the STARDUST LOUNGE in CHI many moons ago. No one knows the depth of his transgressions.





PHILLIP POWERS (deceased) from MEMPHIS. Dieted exclusively on beans and brocolli in order to have the ability to fire air on a daily basis.
 
Dallas Joey Torma

I'm not sure if the last name is spelled correctly, but this guy was a real weasel (as Freddy called him). The only story I've heard about (besides the one Grady told at onepocket.org), was that a guy named Cueball stepped in front of a guy that had a gun aimed at Joey, and diffused the situation. And to repay Cueball, a few days later Joey set up a game with Cueball staking him, and proceded to dump him. Too bad Grady isn't posting here anymore as I'm sure he has more stories about this guy.
 
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According to my conversations with the late Charlie Justice, who met 'em all and played 'em all in his 30+ years of matching up, Detroit Whitey was so crooked and nitty that the other Detroit hustlers noticed it (no mean feat). His honorable mention for Hustler Hall of Shame was Jack Hines, who consistently left a trail of broke and bitter backers in his wake. Most pool people are on the square when they are in the chips, but may do some monkey business when desperate for money. The duo named above apparently managed to display a total lack of character at all times.
 
punter said:
I'm not sure if the last name is spelled correctly, but this guy was a real weasel (as Freddy called him). The only story I've heard about (besides the one Grady told at onepocket.org), was that a guy named Cueball stepped in front of a guy that had a gun aimed at Joey, and diffused the situation. And to repay Cueball, a few days later Joey set up a game with Cueball staking him, and proceded to dump him. Too bad Grady isn't posting here anymore as I'm sure he has more stories about this guy.
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And on a sad note, I knew Joey when he first started hanging around Cotton Bowling Palance back in the early 1960s. I think he was 17 years old at the time and impressed me as a real nice kid. He was quiet, polite, and never got out of line with anyone. It is always sad to me when a nice kid gets twisted as a result of hanging out with the wrong people for too long. I know that one of the many reasons I pulled out of the same environment that messed up Joey was that I could see I was losing the values I had grown up with. You can't hang with thieves without it eventually having an effect on you IMHO.
 
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I won't say his name because he is a member here,but this guy is the only player that has done more business than Cliff Joyner.

If you want to know,send me a pm and I will tell you.
 
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George Walker

ribdoner said:
GEORGE WALKER, owner of the STARDUST LOUNGE in CHI many moons ago. No one knows the depth of his transgressions.






Good catch. George was so bad he was egregious. He was one of two people to be able to "Jar" me.
the Beard
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freddy the beard said:
ribdoner said:
GEORGE WALKER, owner of the STARDUST LOUNGE in CHI many moons ago. No one knows the depth of his transgressions.






Good catch. George was so bad he was egregious. He was one of two people to be able to "Jar" me.
the Beard
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I knew a guy from the west bank NOLA that had a flip-top ring, Beard. You could watch him make your drink and never catch it.
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Most pleasurable shark

ribdoner said:
GEORGE WALKER, owner of the STARDUST LOUNGE in CHI many moons ago. No one knows the depth of his transgressions.


I have a Rogues Gallery in my book The GosPool, George Walker is a charter member.
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George Walker was a southern boy, and owner of the big-time action bar, The Stardust Lounge on North Ave. in Chicago in the 60s. Winning in George's bar was no mean feat. George would do anything he could to beat you when you played in his bar. He would shark you, doctor up the chalk (he would soak the chalk in chemicals and then bake it in an over), put pins under the cloth by the pocket to divert a softly hit ball, tush-hog you, "Jar" you if you drank anything, move the table if you went to the bathroom, but my favorite involved his wife Chris. George, had a country-girl wife. Her name was Chris, and she was one of the sexiest creatures alive. She wore mini-skirts when there was no such thing. She would be sitting in a chair, watching the game in her mini, sans panties. If you had a tough shot, and were facing her, at the moment you were delivering the stroke, her legs would open and she would flash you. It may have bothered some players, but I would actually play position to get hit with the flash. There was a top player from Flint, MI named Harry "Poochie" Sexton. He had a pock-marked face and was no raving beauty. He was credited with having an oversized love member and he lived with George for awhile. It was rumored that he had gotten lucky with Chris. I was never more jealous of anybody in my whole life. Tragically, Chris was murdered by George's lunatic brother, Lonnie.

the Beard
For them that's interested, I posted a pre requiem requiem on my blog, www.bankingwiththebeard.blogspot.com/ for the very ill Bugs Rucker.
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freddy the beard said:
ribdoner said:
GEORGE WALKER, owner of the STARDUST LOUNGE in CHI many moons ago. No one knows the depth of his transgressions.


I have a Rogues Gallery in my book The GosPool, George Walker is a charter member.
Excerpt from book:

George Walker was a southern boy, and owner of the big-time action bar, The Stardust Lounge on North Ave. in Chicago in the 60s. Winning in George's bar was no mean feat. George would do anything he could to beat you when you played in his bar. He would shark you, doctor up the chalk (he would soak the chalk in chemicals and then bake it in an over), put pins under the cloth by the pocket to divert a softly hit ball, tush-hog you, "Jar" you if you drank anything, move the table if you went to the bathroom, but my favorite involved his wife Chris. George, had a country-girl wife. Her name was Chris, and she was one of the sexiest creatures alive. She wore mini-skirts when there was no such thing. She would be sitting in a chair, watching the game in her mini, sans panties. If you had a tough shot, and were facing her, at the moment you were delivering the stroke, her legs would open and she would flash you. It may have bothered some players, but I would actually play position to get hit with the flash. There was a top player from Flint, MI named Harry "Poochie" Sexton. He had a pock-marked face and was no raving beauty. He was credited with having an oversized love member and he lived with George for awhile. It was rumored that he had gotten lucky with Chris. I was never more jealous of anybody in my whole life. Tragically, Chris was murdered by George's lunatic brother, Lonnie.

the Beard
For them that's interested, I posted a pre requiem requiem on my blog, www.bankingwiththebeard.blogspot.com/ for the very ill Bugs Rucker.
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I'm curious. With a guy like that who is robbing so many people why didn't somebody round up some friends and put him out of business? Not worth the risk of going to jail?
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Stardust Lounge: It was the best action in town

alstl said:
freddy the beard said:
I'm curious. With a guy like that who is robbing so many people (George Walker) why didn't somebody round up some friends and put him out of business? Not worth the risk of going to jail?
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First, it was a shoot-em-up hillbilly bar. Everybody carried a gun. It would be like trying to put the Longbranch Saloon in Dodge City out of business. In between trying to beat George Walker, a zillion suckers, action people, and road men also played there. The best action spots were usually also the most dangerous, ie. Cicero, Ill where the best spots/truck stops would get stuck-up once a month. Anybody remember Fat Chico Ortiz? They just convicted a few mob guys for murdering him in the Chicago Family Secrets trial. Chico would stick up road players and wouldnt even wear a mask. Then he would show up the next day and gamble with the same people or maybe stake 'em.

the Beard
For them that's interested, I posted a pre requiem requiem on my blog, www.bankingwiththebeard.blogspot.com/ for the very ill Bugs Rucker.
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freddy the beard said:
alstl said:
First, it was a shoot-em-up hillbilly bar. Everybody carried a gun. It would be like trying to put the Longbranch Saloon in Dodge City out of business. In between trying to beat George Walker, a zillion suckers, action people, and road men also played there. The best action spots were usually also the most dangerous, ie. Cicero, Ill where the best spots/truck stops would get stuck-up once a month. Anybody remember Fat Chico Ortiz? They just convicted a few mob guys for murdering him in the Chicago Family Secrets trial. Chico would stick up road players and wouldnt even wear a mask. Then he would show up the next day and gamble with the same people or maybe stake 'em.

the Beard
For them that's interested, I posted a pre requiem requiem on my blog, www.bankingwiththebeard.blogspot.com/ for the very ill Bugs Rucker.
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That sounds like a tv miniseries or movie waiting to happen.
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