Melamine ferrule or not?

looked like he said CA,wood glue or epoxy would work.


isn't ivorite already registered and used for piano keys?
 
Mason's ferrule are the best so far. It's hard and contributes to a stiff hard hitter that I like.
 
I have been using these for a few years they are light wieght strong but fragile on the edge when the tip gets super low i had a few chips but no cracks in them. No chalk sticks to them and polish up real nice. I have used wood glue and ca with no problems so far.

When you get them the have chatter marks on them and some have a little distortion but plenty left to work with.

I find it good replacement for predater shafts when the ferrule go bad.

Craig
 
n10spool said:
I have been using these for a few years they are light wieght strong but fragile on the edge when the tip gets super low i had a few chips but no cracks in them. No chalk sticks to them and polish up real nice. I have used wood glue and ca with no problems so far.

When you get them the have chatter marks on them and some have a little distortion but plenty left to work with.

I find it good replacement for predater shafts when the ferrule go bad.

Craig
Thnx Craig. I think I know what that ferrule is made of.
Melamine is NOWHERE near what you described at all.
Melamine is G9.
 
pdcue said:
Seems Joe also recommends Super Glue for ferrules - maybe it's
a Florida thing.

Dale

I took it as, it's glue friendly and the super glue would work well for tips, Most of us on here would agree and I can't get in trouble for saying it because I am not using names,
ONLY A COMPLETE MORON WOULD USE SUPER GLUE TO PUT A FERRULE ON.
 
I have had so many "melamine" materials over the years that I don't have a clue what it really is. Every one is different but smells the same. Who really cares, anyway? If it plays well then use it. Call it whatever you wish. I'm gonna start calling mine, "yeti droppings".
 
qbilder said:
I have had so many "melamine" materials over the years that I don't have a clue what it really is. Every one is different but smells the same. Who really cares, anyway? If it plays well then use it. Call it whatever you wish. I'm gonna start calling mine, "yeti droppings".
You know it's glass melamine when it looks nice and it resists facing.:wink:
God forbid if you have to tap some.
 
masonh said:
looked like he said CA,wood glue or epoxy would work.


isn't ivorite already registered and used for piano keys?

Yes it is, perhaps he gets around the problem by tacking the III
onto the name.

From the 'It's a small World department': a quick Google provided the info
that Ivorite is a Celluloid.

Celluloid was one of the first subsitutes for ivory that was ued to make
billiard balls - the story goes that they were known for occasionly bursting into flame.

Dale<director oy useless information>
 
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Yes it is, perhaps he gets around the problem by tacking the III
onto the name.


kind of what i was thinking,but i really no nothing about copyright law.

the ferrules look nothing like melamine in the photos though.
 
re.melamine

I have used the ivorite III ferrules for 3 or 4 years with nothing but great feedback from my customers who like a hard hit.I saw a post that said something to the effect of "only an idiot would use superglue to install a ferrule".Cue Components DOES NOT recommend superglue,but they do sell a cyanoacrylate adhesive made especially for(dedicated),tips & ferrules.
As for not being able to face or thread the Ivorite,I recommend That you diamond hone your tool steel & use a tap purchased from a "highend" tool dealer,not harbour freight ect.
Thanks,Paul Sumrall
 
sonofthunder said:
I have used the ivorite III ferrules for 3 or 4 years with nothing but great feedback from my customers who like a hard hit.I saw a post that said something to the effect of "only an idiot would use superglue to install a ferrule".Cue Components DOES NOT recommend superglue,but they do sell a cyanoacrylate adhesive made especially for(dedicated),tips & ferrules.
As for not being able to face or thread the Ivorite,I recommend That you diamond hone your tool steel & use a tap purchased from a "highend" tool dealer,not harbour freight ect.
Thanks,Paul Sumrall

From a source we all know and love:

"Cyanoacrylate adhesives are sometimes known as "instant glues".
The acronym "CA" is quite commonly used for industrial grades"

"Cyanoacrylate glue has a low shearing strength, which has also
led to its use as a temporary adhesive in cases where the piece
can easily be sheared off at a later time. Common examples include
mounting a workpiece to a sacrificial glue block on a lathe and
also tightening pins and bolts."

FWIW - the superglue reference was only a bit of an 'inside joke'

Dale
 
JoeyInCali said:
You know it's glass melamine when it looks nice and it resists facing.:wink:
God forbid if you have to tap some.

Yeah, & his isn't true glass melamine. I haven't found any in a long time. The stuff i'm using now is very close but is a still linen. I have a lead on glass & if it pans out, i'll let you know. I think it's gonna be the real deal. Cheap, too.
 
sonofthunder said:
I have used the ivorite III ferrules for 3 or 4 years with nothing but great feedback from my customers who like a hard hit.I saw a post that said something to the effect of "only an idiot would use superglue to install a ferrule".Cue Components DOES NOT recommend superglue,but they do sell a cyanoacrylate adhesive made especially for(dedicated),tips & ferrules.
As for not being able to face or thread the Ivorite,I recommend That you diamond hone your tool steel & use a tap purchased from a "highend" tool dealer,not harbour freight ect.
Thanks,Paul Sumrall
I uses cnc toolbit with a carbide insert. It faces fine.
I don't tap the threads right away, I live tool thread it then clean it with a bottoming tap.
 
If someone wants it fixed an in hour it's ca glue but if they want it right and want a warrenty it's wood glue and you dont get it back for a day this way I can take the time to do above and beyond the last person who worked on it.

Plus with wood glue you dont get the brown ring between the ferrule and shaft wood like when you use a ca glue.

Craig
 
n10spool said:
If someone wants it fixed an in hour it's ca glue but if they want it right and want a warrenty it's wood glue and you dont get it back for a day this way I can take the time to do above and beyond the last person who worked on it.

Plus with wood glue you dont get the brown ring between the ferrule and shaft wood like when you use a ca glue.

Craig
5-minute epoxy works much better.
 
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