Mike Sigel pimping himself on Fleabay

[JCIN]

Pimping=Hustling/Selling/Trying to make a buck. This is how I meant it. No negative conotation (even though I have a negative opinion of the subject at hand). Just a figure of speech.

I have listened to too much Jim Rome.

I myself have 2 threads currently pimping stuff I have for sale.

In the words of my great grandfather..." It's hard out there fo a pimp."

Now back to Mr. Sigel and his Ebay Adventure.

 

[JCIN]

The 'living legend' part is mostly in his own mind (and was largely made up by KT as media b.s.)...it's mind over matter! You know...as long as you don't mind, it doesn't matter! Sigel certainly has his accomplishments, as do many other worthy players, in terms of "legend" status. He is, by no means, in a class by himself.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Agreed.

He may not have as many titles, but for that time period I have always been a Buddy Hall fan as far as great players of that era. He has repped some really bad stuff (Lucasi in my opinion) over the years .

But whatever he did/does in my experience he does with Grace and Class.

 

[parvus1202]

The 'living legend' part is mostly in his own mind (and was largely made up by KT as media b.s.)...it's mind over matter! You know...as long as you don't mind, it doesn't matter! Sigel certainly has his accomplishments, as do many other worthy players, in terms of "legend" status. He is, by no means, in a class by himself.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Alright, so voting never really happened but just a propaganda for his IPT matches? It say's he was voted by the "Billiard Industry". And who are the "Billiard Industry?" Anyway good luck to Sigel on his business. Hope to get one signed in the future.

 

[catscradle]

Your opinion stinks, but that's just what it is, an opinion. Thankfully, not all folks feel the way you do. If they did, pool in America would be in worse shape than it is today.

Your "sad truth" of players needing to "pimp" themselves is disgusting to me, and as such, I am stating my opinion.

As far as Mike Sigel selling his wares on eBay, it is the American way. Some of my best friends utilize eBay for marketing their products. Bravo to all eBay-ers!

JAM

Maybe it is my communications skills. However, I meant no disrespect to any pool players well-known like Mike Sigel or otherwise. Such is life on the world wide web.

 

[Matt_24]

I think people should be a little more respectful of Mike Sigel. The man is a living legend and played as good as, if not better than most who have ever held a stick. Is he arrogant, cocky, whatever....who cares? If he didn't sign your autograph 10 years ago and you're still holding a grudge get over it.

Now, I don't know anything about his cues - but if he makes them as well as he played, then I'm sure they will hit good. Remember, Mike is not brand new to this. He was making cues for Dan Janes of JOSS cues in the 70's and 80's when he wasn't winning every tournament in site.

If the man is selling a cue on ebay and advertises it as great hitting, why knock him? He's trying to make a living just like we all are. We don't know his financial situation, and if the orders aren't pouring in, ebay does provide a global market place - providing quite a few people decent livings.

Oh yeah, all of you who said that Reyes was way better than Sigel. Well, when Sigel was playing all of the time Reyes NEVER won a final against Sigel. Check the stats. The only final he ever beat Sigel in a FINAL was this IPT thing. And 9 Ball, Straight pool....forget about it. In their prime, Reyes has no chance. His break was always too weak. Nowadays..of course. Reyes has continued to play, and Sigel retired long ago from serious pool. Ask Reyes who his favorite player is......they did on an Accu-stats tape about 10 years ago and he said, "Mike Sigel." They asked him why...and his response was, "He can just play. It don't matter where the balls are, he just runs out." That is from the magician himself. How strong is that?

Ok, so I'm a biased Mike Sigel fan. I admit it.

 

[JCIN]

Now, I don't know anything about his cues

You admit you do not know what you are talking about. That's a start.

I was going to break down the whole wholesale to the public screwing previous customer thing but I don't think it would matter.

Mr. Sigel at one point in time played great pool. This entitles him to do the things he has done and everyone should just say " Well yeah he screwed people but he could play."

There is more to being a professional than just playing the game.

I guess my point can be made this way. Why was he not at Derby City. Good place to get exposure for your cues. Could of had KT and Deno in the booth with him. There would of been a crowd.

I really did not mean to start this thread as something to bash Sigel. I just couldn't believe after what Dale Perry did, that another maker with a foothold (however precarious) in the high end market would take that route. I have never met the man. I base my opinions on the actions I have seen and heard about from people I trust.

If I ever see the man and it comes up I will say the same thing to his face.

 

[cardsfan]

my mom used to always say "Becareful what you do in the dark, because it will always come to the light"

Dude, that's f***ed up right there.

 

[jimmy-leggs]

mike segal would be the homeliest pimp going.lol

 

[manwon]

I was cruising through the cess pool Ebay has become when I came upon this gem.

From auction listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/Mike-Sigel-Cue-...ryZ21212QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Mike Sigel Custom Handcrafted Pool Cues

Direct from Mike Sigel himself

New 2007 Ebony handle with Ivory and Cocobolo inlays

Comes with 1 Canadian hard rock Maple shaft, Irish Linen wrap and La Pro tip

I was voted the Greatest Living Player of the 20th century by the Billard industry. What you may not know is that I am also an artist and creator of the finest pool cues ever made. I have traveled the world and played with almost every custom cue made. I feel my cues are unsurpassed in Design and Beauty. I personally build and sign every cue so it's not just a great cue, it's a one of a kind collectors item that will increase in value year after year. Your cue will come with a signed certificate of authenticity.

Is this new or has he been doing this for awhile?

When I was I kid I was a big fan of Sigel's, the guy played great and had what I thought of at the time as style.

Kind of a shame he killed for me what legacy he had with the IPT.

Looks like he is going down the same road Dale Perry took. Wonder how all the people who ponied up $1000's are going to feel when they see "Crazy Mike's Factory Authorized Cue Blowout". Not that it is a big shock or something most didn't see coming.

Reminds me of one of those sig lines you see on forums:

" Integrity is like Virginity. Once you lose it, you can't get it back "

Hell, I thought he was still in bed with Kevin at this time in the morning what time is it?

Well, I suppose he got his Natural Cure for Hemorrhoids

Well, at least Kevin will play with his cues!!!!!!!

Well, as they say we reap what we sow!!!!!!

 

[Dead Money]

The last 11 years he has been personally handcrafting the best hitting pool cue on the market. August of 2005 has brought Sigel out of full retirement to Play Professionally for the International Pool Tour; at the World Championship in Las Vegas to win the tournament and take home $150,000.00 . His focus today is to play and promote the new tour.

I was suprised to see that part on the auction listing site.

 

[JAM]

I was suprised to see that part on the auction listing site.

You should read some of the résumés I receive for job inquiries. I hasten to use the word "embellishments," but that is, in fact, what most of them are.

Heck, you should read mine! I'd put Mike Sigel's self-serving blurbs to shame!

JAM

 

[JCIN]

Not sure he was talking about embellishments.

I think he may have been talking about the part where Mr. Sigel is promoting a tour that is under somewhat of a cloud at the current time.

I wondered the same thing myself.

 

[Dead Money]

You should read some of the résumés I receive for job inquiries. I hasten to use the word "embellishments," but that is, in fact, what most of them are.

Heck, you should read mine! I'd put Mike Sigel's self-serving blurbs to shame!

JAM

LMAO!!

I showed mine to my dad recently and he said, "Son, that is a lot of icing on there, where is the god damn cake!?" After I stopped laughing at him I was actually kinda pissed!

 

[HIRUN526]

Living Legend

The 'living legend' part is mostly in his own mind (and was largely made up by KT as media b.s.)...it's mind over matter! You know...as long as you don't mind, it doesn't matter! Sigel certainly has his accomplishments, as do many other worthy players, in terms of "legend" status. He is, by no means, in a class by himself.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

So, Mike's "living legend" career was mostly in his mind and largely made up by KT media hype, but he did have his accomplihments as you say.

Let's review some of Mike's accomplishments:

First US Open win at age 20 - no big deal
6 US Open Championships - after you win one what's the big deal
10 World Championships - anyone could do that
Over one hundred Professional Tournament wins - another no big deal
Billiard Hall of Fame at 35 the youngest inductee - if he was really a good player he should have done it by 25.
4 Time Player of the year - They needed someone to name and maybe he was the only one around.

If this list doesn't qualify for "Living Legend" please explain to me what does.

I would venture to guess there are probably dozens of players living today that have won more tournaments than Mike Sigel and more majors and have his accomplishments, so if you will,

please list them:

1)
2)
3)
4)
5)

Mike has earned his status as one othe greatest players in the history of the sport. The stats don't lie. Then again maybe the KT media machine made up all the tournament victories and Hall of Fame etc.

 

[gpeezy]

mike sigel and sigel cues

i myself have hit a ball with one of his cues and i thought it played great.great quality, feel,and it was a pretty heavey cue anout 21 oz and i play with a 19.it is a little entertaining to hear mike talk about himself.he didn't tell any lies,he shootin everyone str8 but still mike sigels number 1 fan is himself and he's not scared to show it.his qoute should be one of another famous self-lover Rickey Bobby, "i'm just the best there is,i wake up in the morning and piss excellence".gotta luv it.LOL

p.s this is not meant to dog sigel at all just a personality observation.

 

[JAM]

So, Mike's "living legend" career was mostly in his mind and largely made up by KT media hype, but he did have his accomplihments as you say.

Let's review some of Mike's accomplishments:

First US Open win at age 20 - no big deal
6 US Open Championships - after you win one what's the big deal
10 World Championships - anyone could do that
Over one hundred Professional Tournament wins - another no big deal
Billiard Hall of Fame at 35 the youngest inductee - if he was really a good player he should have done it by 25.
4 Time Player of the year - They needed someone to name and maybe he was the only one around.

If this list doesn't qualify for "Living Legend" please explain to me what does.

I would venture to guess there are probably dozens of players living today that have won more tournaments than Mike Sigel and more majors and have his accomplishments, so if you will,

please list them:

1)
2)
3)
4)
5)

Mike has earned his status as one othe greatest players in the history of the sport. The stats don't lie. Then again maybe the KT media machine made up all the tournament victories and Hall of Fame etc.

One thing for sure, Mike Sigel is one of the very few American pool players who managed to eek out a living in pool. Unfortunately, he couldn't earn a decent income when he was number one. He left competitive pool when he was on top of his game too.

Anybody who can make money in an industry that they love has the best of all worlds.

Wish I could get a job posting on the Internet. I'd be a rich lady right 'bout now!

JAM

 

[JCIN]

So, Mike's "living legend" career was mostly in his mind and largely made up by KT media hype, but he did have his accomplihments as you say.

Let's review some of Mike's accomplishments:

First US Open win at age 20 - no big deal
6 US Open Championships - after you win one what's the big deal
10 World Championships - anyone could do that
Over one hundred Professional Tournament wins - another no big deal
Billiard Hall of Fame at 35 the youngest inductee - if he was really a good player he should have done it by 25.
4 Time Player of the year - They needed someone to name and maybe he was the only one around.

If this list doesn't qualify for "Living Legend" please explain to me what does.

I would venture to guess there are probably dozens of players living today that have won more tournaments than Mike Sigel and more majors and have his accomplishments, so if you will,

please list them:

1)
2)
3)
4)
5)

Mike has earned his status as one othe greatest players in the history of the sport. The stats don't lie. Then again maybe the KT media machine made up all the tournament victories and Hall of Fame etc.

I accept all the things you say are true.

I ask you this. What are all those titles worth if no one will believe what the man says ?

 

[Dead Money]

Not sure he was talking about embellishments.

I think he may have been talking about the part where Mr. Sigel is promoting a tour that is under somewhat of a cloud at the current time.

I wondered the same thing myself.

That is pretty much what I was getting at

 

[Ktown D]

Quick question-- Does anyone know what brand of cue Shannon Daulton used to win the bank ring game at Derby with this year?

You guessed it - Sigel cutom cue.

Mike might be an A-1 pr**k but his cues do play well. I hit a few balls with SD's cue and I have to admit it is a great playing cue. While I think he is killing waht was left of his resale value with his marketing strategy, the quality of his cues are very good. I do however doubt that he will be able to turn out the quality he has in the past at the prices he will fetch on eBay.

 

[Island Drive]

He is just riding on his success. He should make his business now while he is still strong. A lot of artists died whithout having anything, even the great Rembrandt. If I am Sigel, I will do the same. But I was wondering, when was this vote of the greatest living legend happened? I consider Reyes as way way better than Sigel.

Hell, Mizerack sold cheap cues I think at Wal Mart, wonder why the thread starter didn't flame away there. The Balabuska name was sold, there is a great place to start a fire also. I think your "pimping" statement just shows your lack of maturity, FWTW.