I think I learned a new word today...I'll have to use it this weekend at league if I see someone acting up
Mosconi Cup Unpicked Players Bail Out
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I think I learned a new word today...I'll have to use it this weekend at league if I see someone acting up
Holy cow you must have lost your sense of logic in this posting spam spree you just did. A team consists of staff and eligible players. All those Super Bowl ring wearers you mention were eligible players. Jeremy, Brandon, and Oscar are not eligible to play in England. They are also not selected staff. Does that clarify things up for you? I would hope so, but your just going to come back with a quip about eligibility so you can be relevant still.
The problem is, there is no staff. There are no coaches. The only thing there is Team Captain Mark Wilson and the players. Typically a captain role is filled by a playing member of the team. Matchroom Sports and Mark Wilson have purposely twisted words in order to garner attention for the sport. You can continue being the unethical person you are Lou, but it doesn't change the meaning what eligible is. Twist words some more.
That's basically how I see it. Brandon Shuff being named Special Shots Instructor is as laughable as calling John Brumback a 14.1 coach.
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So there's now a "special" definition of team? If you will NOT get a chance to compete, you are NOT on the team. If you have to give them token titles because they did NOT make the team, they are NOT on the team.
They handled not being selected just fine. I handled not winning the lottery just fine as well.
I think I learned a new word today...I'll have to use it this weekend at league if I see someone acting up
And a damn fine word it is
Bottom line it was a bush league tactic to ask someone before being selected. It was a farce. "Oh, by the way, we have not made a selection yet, but of course, if you are not picked you would be willing to be the ultimate team member and show up during the holidays in another country, sitting on a 10 hour flight, with ZERO chance of playing, but just to bring moral support" ???
Anyone, and I mean anyone, who would have said no most likely would have killed their chances of playing (ok, not SVB) but everyone else.
Can you imagine someone trying to get a job promotion, but before they announce it, they say, well, if you are not picked you don't mind coming over the weekend and training the new guy, just to show what a team guy you are. Of course, you say yes.
Now, if he is still your boss, you might not be able to bail without a "cough cough" sick excuse. But, there are not any "bosses" in pool, and it may or many not hurt their chances for next year if Wilson is the Capt again. But, that is their choice, and they probably are assuming that Mr. Wilson is the great and fair guy everyone says he is, and would not dare hold that over them.
All in all, nobody should care except Mr. Wilson, and I have NOT seem him moan or groan about it one time.
And it's quite possible the said yes because they didn't know what they had planned if they were NOT going to be selected. So, everyone chill. :thumbup:
You get cut, you would not be allowed on the bench. You're cut, you're done, that's all she wrote. How does one come back to a team after they are cut, or sent down to the minors ??
. Johnnyt
They were going as special staff. There are also, to my recollection, two coaches going besides MW.
Bottom line is that the only thing "unethical" going on were guys flaking out after they said they'd go and support the team in a non-playing capacity.
Lou Figueroa
Wasn't even wearing team colors, just some black leather jacket. Guess he didn't want to be ID'd as a member of the band.
Lou Figueroa
Not a job. Chance to represent your country and support those selected.
In any case, having backed out -- for whatever reason(s) -- it'll be interesting to see how this works out for them in the out years.
Lou Figueroa
Where was the money coming from to finance the extra 5 people? I'd hope not out of the players pockets.
they have to wait 2-3 weeks AFTER the event to get their money
From reading some of the posts It may not be known that the Mosconi Cup players/coach get reimbursed for their flight, and some expenses, however they have to wait 2-3 weeks AFTER the event to get their money.
As I mentioned before we had to pay $150 just to get to the airport from our hotel after the event. For some this may not be a big deal, to others it may be financially challenging.
It's not easy for come players to come up with $2000 to participate in a tournament, especially if they're not performing, and have no chance to be compensated as a competitor.
This is not about "team spirit," the financial part of the agreement is a crucial part of the decision and, in some cases, a HUGE stumbling block.
From reading some of the posts It may not be known that the Mosconi Cup players/coach get reimbursed for their flight, and some expenses, however they have to wait 2-3 weeks AFTER the event to get their money.
As I mentioned before we had to pay $150 just to get to the airport from our hotel after the event. For some this may not be a big deal, to others it may be financially challenging.
It's not easy for come players to come up with $2000 to participate in a tournament, especially if they're not performing, and have no chance to be compensated as a competitor.
This is not about "team spirit," the financial part of the agreement is a crucial part of the decision and, in some cases, a HUGE stumbling block.
players hands were so cold they joked about wearing "mosconi cup mittens"
We didn't get "team jackets," and there was very little heat in the facility. At times the players hands were so cold they joked about wearing "mosconi cup mittens". LoL
We didn't get "team jackets," and there was very little heat in the facility. At times the players hands were so cold they joked about wearing "mosconi cup mittens". LoL
We didn't get "team jackets," and there was very little heat in the facility. At times the players hands were so cold they joked about wearing "mosconi cup mittens". LoL
Right.
Red, white, and blue are such tough colors to come by.
Lou Figueroa