MY VARNEY NIGHTMARE unbelievable

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No Illusions said:
I bet the above quote gets you a vacation Mr. Nuder unless I'm wrong but I'd prolly wager on it.:yeah:
Nice how you can spin this in any direction guess he depends on whose camp your in here. You quoted Kev and what KV said wasn't rude or vulgar. What KV was replying too was a custmer who is so foul he said something about KVs wife 'dropping' a child. Incredible the Moderators allowed that to stay in view. Pure vulgar & disrespect of KV's wife over a late pool cue delivery? I must say I'm proud of my bud for not saying what I would. You simply crossed the line there. If I was Kev I'd send him his cue in a shoebox but no Kev as always will ship out a real crusher.
Take a look at his Trader remarks are and there are 3 pages from customers that tells another story. Sorry guys but I for one have seen enough of this witch hunt. I don't like seeing my friend railroaded like this I asked him how bad it was and he said he's only even really late on 10-15 cues. The rest are on time and he said that some will come out before others something about some were quicker to make cause he already had certain wood closer to finnish size so a few will ship sooner.
The only problem here are some pushy customers but its no big deal ask any pool cuemaker they got stories buddy you no it! Let you in on a little secret too. Spent a little time with Kev and since I'm a wood worker - fabricator and have lathe experience he's now letting me turn some tapers on some wood. WOW! :dance: Not exactly making me a cuemaker but I'm trying to pay close attention :D and after peaking over his shoulder for a couple hours he goes to great extra lengths on little things and all for function. I got a hole bag full of his cues and I'm not ashamed to say they play better than any I've owned and I was playing years ago with a 1 of high end Nova that I still own. You don't see too many unhappy Varney owners so like I said that tells a different story. Sorry if I seem rude tonight I just wanted to say my peice. I'll bow out now and wait for the red rep from the other camp. Not that I ever have but I won't be posting here much more anyway as I gave Kev my word heck he'll prolly make me sign some no compete form.:grin:
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Omg thanks for the laugh at 3am. "He's letting me turn some wood" Lmao!

-roger
 
buddha162 said:
Omg thanks for the laugh at 3am. "He's letting me turn some wood" Lmao!

-roger
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Roger, that is some funny $hit!!! If Kevin owns the wood, does that mean that Kevin is allowing No Illusions to turn his wood:eek: !!!!!!!!!:barf:
 
No Illusions said:
I say about 100% that they get there cues. I'm at Kev's shop now at this very minute. We live about 15 apart and these cues are beautiful. I go way back with Kev and yes I'm the proud owner of 4 Varneys waiting on number 5. On the way home again after a late night and again his lights were on so I called to offer a slightly warm brew.:) If'd he'd allow I'd stay here for days just watching. Hes got a brother-sister pair of purpleheart j/bs with the little ivory rings on the butt and I'm begging for one.:D
This crowd of haters is a joke. I'll gladly wait on my wood. I wouldn't tell my surgeon to hurry up either.:nono: I wonder how many other cue makers are up working at 3:30am?
Okay I'm getting yelled at if I stay I have to vacume.:(
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No Illusions I think you missed this post...Its a pm from your friend K.V. to one of his customers....any comments ?


Rip said:
Has anyone else received this "offer" from KV?

Tell you what I'll do....I have a large group of my basic 4pt rosewood j/b's that are near complete. They are all going to the same man in Japan. I get $375 for these as fast as I can make them. Since you just bought a cue, I'll hook you up if you promise to: 1) never repeat this price or deal
2) swear you waited near 6 months
3) give me some good press here at AZB
If you hit my Paypal again tonight, I can reallocate one of those cues to you for $350 and I'll pay shipping. Since you just bought one cue, that'll give you a slight price break plus you skip the wait. I'll have these ready to ship within a couple weeks...they are ready to be cleared. If you want one then let me know what weight you'd like & I'll hand pick you a nice one. All have the brown phen collars.
Thanks
KV
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No Illusions here this is as real as it gets.....
 
I wish KV the very best.I have no reason not too....he has never wronged me.

I think,and it's JMHO,he has dug a hole he never meant to dig.A hole he never imagined he might have to dig.But its been dug.

It's hard to be above board when you find yourself below sea level with a shovel in your hand.

I for one do not believe he has malice in his heart,or even dishonesty at his core.

I do however believe he has gotten so far in front of himself he says what he must to bring in the money,and hopes to get ahead on the cues.Perhaps hoping beyond hope,but hoping none the less.

I wish him and his customers well.It's gonna be tough from here.
 
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I have kept from posting in this thread since I don't have a "dog in the hunt" but since Mr. Varney's pitiful post I can't resist.

Let me start by saying I have, prior to this thread, rarely if ever agreed with anything Cincy posted. Moreover, I have admired the look of a number of Mr. Varney's cues.

In a previous Varney thread (negative of course) I did say given his conduct if I ever chose to own one of his cues, I would certainly buy it in the secondary market, not directly from him.

Mr. Varneys most recent post was such a pathetic excuse for an excuse, I can no longer remain silent. His hostile attitude toward his not just paying, but PAID customers is the most outrageous customer treatment I have EVER witnessed.

How DARE those customers who gave me their money in exchange for a promise expect me to keep my promise??? How dare those customers expect me to treat them with any respect, don't they know who *I* am???

Mr. Varney, I said it the last time I posted about you and I'll say it again...if you want to be an "artist" who need only answer to his art....fine, no problem. Create your art like other artists do, on a schedule all your own, everyone else be damned. Once you have created that work of art, THEN sell it!!!!, but as long as you take peoples money FIRST, in exchange for a promise, you are then a businessman, and need to conduct yourself accordingly.

The holier than thou stuff is reserved for those that have no one to answer to. Be a rock star, be a rebel, be an artist...but do it on YOUR dime, not the dimes of people to whom you make hollow promises.

I have lost all respect for you as a human being and as such, as a cuemaker as well.

I just wish I owned a restaurant you frequent.......:)

Joe
 
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Thunderball said:
I think,and it's JMHO,he has dug a hole he never meant to dig.A hole he never imagined he might have to dig.But its been dug.
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I agree with this. But not with this:

Thunderball said:
I for one do not believe he has malice in his heart,or even dishonesty at his core.
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I tried for a long time believing that he was really an honest, good person who's gotten himself in a pickle, but based on his responses, and based on the tactics he uses to run his business, I think it's quite clear that he really does have "dishonesty at his core."

How can someone who is truly honest fail so miserably at his promises to paid customers, and yet still unapologetically refuse refunds? How can someone who is truly honest insult his paid customers repeatedly, and twist and distort all facts in a blatantly self-serving manner?

Those are not the actions of an honest man. Those are the actions of a man who is dishonest at his core, enormously selfish, and who does anything and everything he can to make, and hold onto, a buck.
 
How can someone who is truly honest fail so miserably at his promises to paid customers, and yet still unapologetically refuse refunds? How can someone who is truly honest insult his paid customers repeatedly, and twist and distort all facts in a blatantly self-serving manner?

Those are not the actions of an honest man. Those are the actions of a man who is dishonest at his core, enormously selfish, and who does anything and everything he can to make, and hold onto, a buck.
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I can not disagree with this stance and honestly I have no desire too.

I do hope he gets it sorted out and starts the slow climb up the right side of a wrong situation.
 
How can someone who is truly honest fail so miserably at his promises to paid customers, and yet still unapologetically refuse refunds? How can someone who is truly honest insult his paid customers repeatedly, and twist and distort all facts in a blatantly self-serving manner?

Those are not the actions of an honest man. Those are the actions of a man who is dishonest at his core, enormously selfish, and who does anything and everything he can to make, and hold onto, a buck.
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I can not disagree with this stance and honestly I have no desire too.

I do hope he gets it sorted out and starts the slow climb up the right side of a wrong situation.
 
KV is thumbing his nose at everyone here and saying "screw 'em" , he has managed to stay on the front page of rep, despite numerous red hits. Every time he falls a spot, he calls a cronie to rep him back to the previous spot. He can coordinate this, but can't communicate with his customers.
 
So much confusion; who to believe?

cincyman said:
I hesitate to post this, and only am at the advice of about 7 others i have shared this story with.

I have been MORE than patient and just cannot get a response and a FIRM date so i have resorted to this.

HERE GOES


I started a thread in June 07, and said i was looking for an ebony cuehttp://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=66655.

Varney sent me a pm and said he could make me what i wanted which was an ebony sneaky with an IVORY joint 57 1/2 inches for 450. I told him that was more than i wanted to spend and didnt really want to wait as i had a child coming soon and was going to quit playing after she was born then anyway. He then replied back that he would do it for 400 and already had a blank ready someone cancelled and instead of 90 days like normal it would only be 60 days

I said cool that sounds good whats next. He said the sooner you paypal me the sooner i can get it done. So i sent him the money that day. A few days later i checked back and gave him all my specs and he replied back and said, no problem but you do know i dont use REAL IVORY on my cues . I said fine because the price seemed reasonable anyway and i was excited to try out the cue.

Since june 29th he has promised me 8 diferent delivery times. I have pm'd him about thosands of times and he wouldnt answer then i would get from him " its all down hill from here". First it was sorry its late you will have it by October, then For sure by december. I told him i wanted to use it at the derby and he said no problem last week of December . Then he said late January, then he said March. Then i didn;t hear from him for awhile and started posting about here in some threads and he told me that wont get my cue any faster lol. This is the last exchange on June 4th..................

MY PM SENT TO HIM ON MAY 10TH

Mr. Varney,
Give me a break, i have asked you 6 times for a date and can n ot get one. I just talked to cajunbarboxplayer and he told me he ORDERED his cue in December and he has got it already. I understand if he is your buddy thats cool but , I ordered mine in JUNE and you said it would only be 60 days (yes 60) because you had a blank done already. Well it is May and i have had no communication since FEB. This is unexceptable. I have not started a thread and have only posted my experience in them about the communication which you obviously ignore. I told you before i order tons of cues from prolific makers and this is an utter disgrace on your end. If you ****ed up just tell me. If not i expect an answer and a FIRM date of delivery. I dont want it rushed and am trying not to be a dick but its ridiculous

KV RESPONDSKV>>>>>

I apologize sir. I will indeed have yours complete....unrushed....by the end of the month.
KV

ME AGAIN>>>>>>>>>>>

Well the end of May has come and gone ( whoooooooosh) any idea on when the next estimated time of arrival will be? Do i owe you anymore money? Thanks for keeping me updated

KV RESPONDS AGAIN>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yours is very near complete....I just have 5-6 more that are ahead of you. You know how upset people get when they think I'm working out of line.
Thanks
KV



That is the where i stand now NO CUE and havent really said a word. I hear these people on here complain about 9 months when he told then 90 days well how do you like this..............

With that said i have a few questions for KV i demand an answer for. As many of my friends here know i have the good fortune to be married to a lawyer and she hates pool but is not happy about this and thinks i should pursue legal action.

I have told her of the close knit community here and that it would work out,, well that was 6 months ago:eek:

Now for my questions to KV

How on earth to you think this is exceptable?

Why would you tell me 60 days and then it be almost a YEAR and i still have no cue?

How can at least 10 people on here who ordered a cue after me get theirs already and why?

What is the f$%^%ing date i am getting my cue?

Did you mess it up? and if you did why did you not tell me it would be longer?

Do you think i am out of line by being upset? because you act like you do in the forums


If anyone else has any other questions please feel free to ask, I really want to hear the response.

And if any of his BUDDIES chime in i might just go APES$$T becasue i am not in the mood to be told "i am a hater" or " give the guy a break" It is way past that point for me

Sorry its so long i am very angry and thought everyone should know.
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Am I the only one thats unclear about who is to be believed in this saga?
Varney quote from another thread:
He waited longer than the 7 months you've been waiting I assure you. Trying to turn this thread into a "who got theirs first" doesn't get your cue any faster. Like I have stated numerous times...everyone's cue is coming & I'm trying to keep them in order as best as possible. I know you are upset that Cajun got his cue before you....but his cue took only about 20% of the work that yours requires. Please bear with me & you'll have a wonderful cue shortly. Again....as I've stated previously...past due orders are all I'm working on 100% of the time. And if you feel the need to know the truth....he ordered his slightly more than 3 months before you.

Cincyman's response:
By the way KEV , i ordered mine in August (i got the message and paypal receipt) which to my count is 10 months which puts me real close to Vinnie if you do the math. And AND AND AND you told me only 60 days !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Care to dispute any of that

Now was that August or June of 2007?

Back to Varney's side of things:

Here is one I just completed for a good customer of mine. Thank you sir for your patience....it turned out perfect. I'll pm tracking info tomorrow.
Next up are Nibrobus (who's been waiting the longest by far), a nice veneered sweetheart for RiverRat, and Danks ph/ebony...plus a couple of purpleheart beauties. Don't panic if you don't see your name. I have many more that are already cleared....I'll be posting pics here in the Gallery regularly. I would like to thank many of my customers & friends for the recent kind pm's. I appreciate the support.
I really like this j/b...I tried for a little SW flavor with it.

But said that no one else on this thread was waiting on a cue? Hum!
Nibrobus' post in this thread:
I don't feel the need to start my own thread so I'll post in here. I've been waiting 2 years for my cue (ordered it late May 2006). I've been told my cue was delayed due to rings popping because of a heatwave, then the cue had to be rebuilt 3 times due to the wood moving. Made a 50% deposit on the cue to start, and was given a 90 day turnaround time. Was told on 05/08/07 that my cue woud be finished in a few days, and to send the final balance (which I sent immediately). The last update I got was on 04/23/08 through another AZ'er that knows Kevin; the message from Kevin being that my cue had received its final pass and should be finished soon.

On 04/29/08 Kevin posted this thread:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=97345

which stated the following: "Below is a pic of a recently delievered cue....more pics in the Gallery. I'll also have Chenz's new Varney pics posted in the Gallery this evening too & Vinny I'll pm the tracking info shortly. Cajunbarboxplyr's cue is next & I'll have pics of it tomorrow. The short list after that is BuckeyeJim & Nibrobus. Each time I post pics I'll try to give a short update as to who is next."

Haven't gotten any other updates since then, and my cue has been paid for for over a year. Kevin did post a picture of my cue in this thread back on 05/25/07: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=63608

Kevin has turned out a few cues in the past couple months, but I can't shake the feeling that I've been put on the back burner yet again.

A long post I know, but I think everyone that has followed and contributed to this thread needs to be fully informed. It takes awhile to read through the entire thread and follow the associated posts in other threads, but its important for everyone to be consistant with their facts to be believed.
 
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So are you saying you do not believe money was paid up front and that KV has communicated with the buyer since he got his money? Are you saying the buyer did not have a 60 day quote for someone Else's cue almost finished back in 2007? Are you condoning lack of communication with paying customers as well as unacceptable treatment of said paying customers? Just exactly what are you trying to convey in your post?
 
according to Varney . . .

According to Varney he is doing things in order which means that if Nibrobus is still waiting he has only turned out four or five cues at most since 4-29. With a two hundred cue plus backlog and finishing two to three cues a month it would seem that some of you will be receiving your Varney sometime between 2013 and 2016, maybe later. Of course that is if he keeps devoting himself full time to the back log. I wish Varney a long and productive life and the people who have deposits with him a lot of luck!

I have to wonder how he and his family are surviving with little or no money coming in and how will they survive in the years to come if he honors his commitment to the backlog? All of the cues seem to have at least 50% deposit on them, some 100%. His cues seem to average costing well under five hundred dollars each but using that number and receiving 50% every time he ships one it seems that he has made not more than $1250 in the last two months, at least that is what his posts indicate.

Any of you out there in the US surviving and taking care of your family on $625 or less a month? Seems like a man that needs to take deposits on "well over 200" cues to support himself and his family would need a bit more a month. Maybe I am just skeptical. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Hu




Duane Hinton said:
Am I the only one thats unclear about who is to be believed in this saga?
Varney quote from another thread:
He waited longer than the 7 months you've been waiting I assure you. Trying to turn this thread into a "who got theirs first" doesn't get your cue any faster. Like I have stated numerous times...everyone's cue is coming & I'm trying to keep them in order as best as possible. I know you are upset that Cajun got his cue before you....but his cue took only about 20% of the work that yours requires. Please bear with me & you'll have a wonderful cue shortly. Again....as I've stated previously...past due orders are all I'm working on 100% of the time. And if you feel the need to know the truth....he ordered his slightly more than 3 months before you.

Cincyman's response:
By the way KEV , i ordered mine in August (i got the message and paypal receipt) which to my count is 10 months which puts me real close to Vinnie if you do the math. And AND AND AND you told me only 60 days !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Care to dispute any of that

Now was that August or June of 2007?

Back to Varney's side of things:

Here is one I just completed for a good customer of mine. Thank you sir for your patience....it turned out perfect. I'll pm tracking info tomorrow.
Next up are Nibrobus (who's been waiting the longest by far), a nice veneered sweetheart for RiverRat, and Danks ph/ebony...plus a couple of purpleheart beauties. Don't panic if you don't see your name. I have many more that are already cleared....I'll be posting pics here in the Gallery regularly. I would like to thank many of my customers & friends for the recent kind pm's. I appreciate the support.
I really like this j/b...I tried for a little SW flavor with it.

But said that no one else on this thread was waiting on a cue? Hum!
Nibrobus' post in this thread:
I don't feel the need to start my own thread so I'll post in here. I've been waiting 2 years for my cue (ordered it late May 2006). I've been told my cue was delayed due to rings popping because of a heatwave, then the cue had to be rebuilt 3 times due to the wood moving. Made a 50% deposit on the cue to start, and was given a 90 day turnaround time. Was told on 05/08/07 that my cue woud be finished in a few days, and to send the final balance (which I sent immediately). The last update I got was on 04/23/08 through another AZ'er that knows Kevin; the message from Kevin being that my cue had received its final pass and should be finished soon.

On 04/29/08 Kevin posted this thread:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=97345

which stated the following: "Below is a pic of a recently delievered cue....more pics in the Gallery. I'll also have Chenz's new Varney pics posted in the Gallery this evening too & Vinny I'll pm the tracking info shortly. Cajunbarboxplyr's cue is next & I'll have pics of it tomorrow. The short list after that is BuckeyeJim & Nibrobus. Each time I post pics I'll try to give a short update as to who is next."

Haven't gotten any other updates since then, and my cue has been paid for for over a year. Kevin did post a picture of my cue in this thread back on 05/25/07: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=63608

Kevin has turned out a few cues in the past couple months, but I can't shake the feeling that I've been put on the back burner yet again.

A long post I know, but I think everyone that has followed and contributed to this thread needs to be fully informed. It takes awhile to read through the entire thread and follow the associated posts in other threads, but its important for everyone to be consistant with their facts to be believed.
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Thanks to Lunchmoney for this sweet ass pic of KV but in all honesty how can he be expected to turn down wood any faster with just 2 front teeth?

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hangemhigh said:
So are you saying you do not believe money was paid up front and that KV has communicated with the buyer since he got his money? Are you saying the buyer did not have a 60 day quote for someone Else's cue almost finished back in 2007? Are you condoning lack of communication with paying customers as well as unacceptable treatment of said paying customers? Just exactly what are you trying to convey in your post?
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All I was inferring was that both parties stated contradictory things which make the whole issue confusing.
Duane
 
Varney Cues said:
You are a class act sir...thats clear for all to see. This will be my only response to this or any other "bash KV" thread. I am very aware by whats going on here. Rocket354 started it & now you continue....thinking if you hassle & badmouth me enough then I stop everything else & finish your cue in order to just shut you up. Well thats not how it works....I don't bully so well. Your cue is very near complete...will be done within a couple of weeks....but I will not put a "rush" on yours due to your harassment tactics. Funny...there are several hundred very happy Varney customers yet only a couple who feel the need to bash me in the limelight. Only one person in this thread has a cue ordered....the rest of the haters just love drama & decided to join my "fan club". No point in me explaining again....I've done it clearly several times of recent....yes I'm behind and its my own fault...but I will be caught up very shortly. Lastly....I highly suggest you seek better legal counsel. My father's wife is an attorney and I wish everyone could of heard her laugh as she read this BS. Spend all you'd like....my attorney is free. You will get your cue...not a refund & definately not both.:rolleyes: Now continue to bash away....and go to dinner tonight & call the chef a few names too as he prepares your food.;)
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Kevin, you make the most wonderful excuses in the world. I mean, seriously, if I used HALF of the excuses you've used here at my job, I'd be fired. I have two children. My most recent is 6 weeks old. I understand a pregnant wife. Here's the problem - your responsibilities don't stop due to having a family. We all have families. I kiss mine goodbye every morning to GO TO WORK. You need the same discipline. If you're going to run behind, STOP TAKING DEPOSITS. When I put my name on the list at Southwest, they didn't ask for 100% up front. Neither should you. If you aren't going to build the cue NOW, you do not need the money NOW. You should get a deposit when you start WORKING on the cue, not when you take the order.

You may think you sound intelligent, but you don't. You sound like a 17 year old girl. You make excuses, try to divert attention from your faults, and basically ridicule your customers for wanting something they paid for, within the timelines you gave them.

I honestly hope you never sell a cue ever again. You don't deserve to be in business with your poor attitude. But keep thinking you're a wheel, Kevin. One day, your antics will catch up with you.
 
Duane Hinton said:
All I was inferring was that both parties stated contradictory things which make the whole issue confusing.
Duane
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Well i never stated contradictory things, condratictory things were assumed!!

In my op in included a thread in which KV pmed me about a cue in june of 07.

I did not respond for a few weeks and when i did, i declined his offer and said it was too much.

A month or two later ( not sure of the EXACT date so i didnt include because i knew i would have to answer to people trying to discredit me) He sent me a message saying he had a customer cancel and the blank was ready and instead of 90 days like normal i could have it in 60 days!!

I agreed and told him to start it. I then received a pm a few days or weeks after thatt telling me he could get on it faster if i paid him that day so i think i actually paid in full in August or Sept .

Now to prove this and the fact he is well aware my cue was due in 60 days here is a om exchange in sent 12-3 thats december 3rd!!!........

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Mr. Varney,

Havent bugged you in awhile. My first child due april 2nd is going to be a girl we just found out!! Wanted to see how your family and you are doing and also wanted to check on my cue. Any time frame idea?? and if you needed any more info?
I appreciate it so much
Mark


Hello Mark. Congrats on the daughter!!! Our 1st is due almost anytime between now & Christmas. My wife is trying hard to hold it all together after the tragedy. I'm sure the new baby boy will help lift her spirits.
Your blank looks awesome. Everyone who comes in the shop ask about it. As expensive as the blank was I'm just being ultra careful now & taking very small passes...I don't want the wood to move. Its coming along nicely though. I'm busy as can be & extremely backed up but we llok on track to get you finished late Jan.
Hope you & yours have a wonderful Christmas.
KV
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Now thats the second or third sate i was promised and thats late January,, how can you be on track to be finished in late January and it be July and not have a cue And no explanation.

What everyone is forgetting is i am not upset about not having the cue, i am upset i was PROMISED these dates and when they went by i was told i just had to wait because i had others before me and i would be ready soon!!! I told him many times just tell me what happened and if you messed it up and its cool but i was told another promised date and then made to feel like I was hounding him when the date came and went!!!!
 
What a sad response from Mr. Varney......to waste away his one and only post.....probably one of the most important posts of his career..... the only post that had the small probability to save or redeem himself..... only to have him use it to ridicule and threaten a fully-paid-for-customer who was within his rights to be upset.

When it comes to custom cues.....people have an emotional attachment to them that can sometimes be beyond just the build and quality characteristics of the cue. There can be a history to the cue that can be just as valuable.

Well....Mr. Varney, you just added a page to that history to your long line of cues.....and unfortnately, that page is going to leave a bitter taste to all would-be collectors or shooters of your cues. It's all bad karma from now on and I can never think about owning a Varney cue....all the negative aura will probably jinx my game....

I was saddened to see you post your response...... you were better off to have listened to the moderators and stayed away.
 
Duane Hinton said:
Am I the only one thats unclear about who is to be believed in this saga?
Varney quote from another thread:
He waited longer than the 7 months you've been waiting I assure you. Trying to turn this thread into a "who got theirs first" doesn't get your cue any faster. Like I have stated numerous times...everyone's cue is coming & I'm trying to keep them in order as best as possible. I know you are upset that Cajun got his cue before you....but his cue took only about 20% of the work that yours requires. Please bear with me & you'll have a wonderful cue shortly. Again....as I've stated previously...past due orders are all I'm working on 100% of the time. And if you feel the need to know the truth....he ordered his slightly more than 3 months before you.

Cincyman's response:
By the way KEV , i ordered mine in August (i got the message and paypal receipt) which to my count is 10 months which puts me real close to Vinnie if you do the math. And AND AND AND you told me only 60 days !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Care to dispute any of that

Now was that August or June of 2007?

Back to Varney's side of things:

Here is one I just completed for a good customer of mine. Thank you sir for your patience....it turned out perfect. I'll pm tracking info tomorrow.
Next up are Nibrobus (who's been waiting the longest by far), a nice veneered sweetheart for RiverRat, and Danks ph/ebony...plus a couple of purpleheart beauties. Don't panic if you don't see your name. I have many more that are already cleared....I'll be posting pics here in the Gallery regularly. I would like to thank many of my customers & friends for the recent kind pm's. I appreciate the support.
I really like this j/b...I tried for a little SW flavor with it.

But said that no one else on this thread was waiting on a cue? Hum!
Nibrobus' post in this thread:
I don't feel the need to start my own thread so I'll post in here. I've been waiting 2 years for my cue (ordered it late May 2006). I've been told my cue was delayed due to rings popping because of a heatwave, then the cue had to be rebuilt 3 times due to the wood moving. Made a 50% deposit on the cue to start, and was given a 90 day turnaround time. Was told on 05/08/07 that my cue woud be finished in a few days, and to send the final balance (which I sent immediately). The last update I got was on 04/23/08 through another AZ'er that knows Kevin; the message from Kevin being that my cue had received its final pass and should be finished soon.

On 04/29/08 Kevin posted this thread:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=97345

which stated the following: "Below is a pic of a recently delievered cue....more pics in the Gallery. I'll also have Chenz's new Varney pics posted in the Gallery this evening too & Vinny I'll pm the tracking info shortly. Cajunbarboxplyr's cue is next & I'll have pics of it tomorrow. The short list after that is BuckeyeJim & Nibrobus. Each time I post pics I'll try to give a short update as to who is next."

Haven't gotten any other updates since then, and my cue has been paid for for over a year. Kevin did post a picture of my cue in this thread back on 05/25/07: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=63608

Kevin has turned out a few cues in the past couple months, but I can't shake the feeling that I've been put on the back burner yet again.

A long post I know, but I think everyone that has followed and contributed to this thread needs to be fully informed. It takes awhile to read through the entire thread and follow the associated posts in other threads, but its important for everyone to be consistant with their facts to be believed.
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Hello Duane, thanks very much for the PM, and my apologies for the confusion!!

Have a good day!!!!!
 
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