Name your TOP 5 IPT Las Vegas players. Who's your dark horse?

It all depends on the draw. But I have to go with Reyes, Bustamante, Manalo for sure. Then I will go with Sigel and Strickland.

But of course there probably are at least 50 other players that can be right up there. It won't be as easy as the KOTH was for these guys. This will be a longer, harder competition. And you will have the creme de la creme of the pool world competing against each other.

Jake
 
Top Five:

Bustamante
Reyes
Deuel
Pagulayan
Manalo

Finals:

Pagulayan vs. Manalo

Dark Horse: Breedlove
 
I'll throw in my two cents:

Top 5:

Efren Reyes
Francisco Bustamante
Thorsten Hohmann
Marlon Manalo
Johnny Archer

Dark Horses

Max Eberle
Mike Sigel
Tony Robles
 
The mouth no way!!

I must agree on Troy frank as a darkhorse that I would like to see as well as Shane the Kid... both are 8 ball Machines
 
mnorwood said:
Charlie Bryant
Danny Basavich
John Schmidt
Scotty Townsend
Goerge Breedlove

No particular order.
mnorwood said:
I was listing dark horses that no one really expects to win.

LOL. Thanks for the clarification. At first I thought either you had something against the Filipinos, or you were being utterly patriotic. :D

Oh just a side note. This type of tournament format is unprecedented, considering the players in the final round robin would have been playing 4-5 straight 12-hour days! That's why I chose the young guns Orcullo and Pagulayan in the finals. I just think Efren's age will catch up with him in the final round robin. Manalo can also shed a couple of pounds as well. ;)

It'll surely be interesting to see who can make it through this marathon tournament format. Maybe this will make pool a sport after all.
 
TOP 5
Schmidt - If he wins he can buy himself yet another putter
Reyes - to win this thing you have to beat him.. how tough is that?
Hohmann - He never plays a bad match
Earl - IMO, he's still the best there is in the clutch
Manalo - has the opportunity to take his rightful place at the very top of the game.

Dark Horses
Karen Corr - I believe she has the ability to beat anybody.
George Breedlove - I would not be surprised to see him in the final
Oliver Ortmann - A true warrior - an unshakable will to win
Ike Runnels - You heard it here first.
 
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I second Linda's selection of Mike Vidas as a dark horse. He's a definite comer... and the IPT is a great opportunity for him to showcase his game.

I'll make a bold prediction... by the end of 2007, I believe that he'll break into the Top 25.
 
My top five are:

Reyes
Manalo
Pagulayan
Hohmann
Ortmann

My darkhorses would have to include Edwin Montal, Rico Dics, and several UK players that should surprise alot of people in Vegas!
 
Reyes
Bustamanta
Archer < no order
Immonen
Breedlove



Dark Horses
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Pagulayan
Manala
Souquet
K. Fisher
K. Corr

Johnnyt
 
mnorwood said:
Charlie Bryant
Danny Basavich
John Schmidt
Scotty Townsend
Goerge Breedlove

No particular order.

I am surprised to see Scotty's name here. Was he an early submission and selected? or did he win a qualifier?
 
Kelly_Guy said:
I am surprised to see Scotty's name here. Was he an early submission and selected? or did he win a qualifier?
Scotty was an early selection. He has won a few major tournaments. I watched Scotty play in a pechauer tournament. He's got the goods.
 
hi

id like to add something.imho the filipinos really are awesome and they play more pool than the rest of us.but where they stand out over the americans is kicking.now this 8ball takes away the kicking a little.also the game of 8ball is very much like straight pool, believe me. now im not trying to say im going to do well because i play straight pool, but i would look for the europeans and american straight poolers to hold their own pretty well.also when the americans start applying themselves and quit golfing ,poker etc ,myself included and start playing pool 24-7 like the filipinos and euros we might make people think were pretty tough.well thats all the rambling i can do for now im tired, i just got off the golf course with boo weekly he shot 62 from 7 thousand yards.i better stick with pool lol.
 
Top 5 in no particular order

Reyes
Orcullo
Immonen
Manalo
Montel

Dark Horse.....gotta go with my boy Tony Chohan.
 
john schmidt said:
id like to add something.imho the filipinos really are awesome and they play more pool than the rest of us.but where they stand out over the americans is kicking.now this 8ball takes away the kicking a little.also the game of 8ball is very much like straight pool, believe me. now im not trying to say im going to do well because i play straight pool, but i would look for the europeans and american straight poolers to hold their own pretty well.also when the americans start applying themselves and quit golfing ,poker etc ,myself included and start playing pool 24-7 like the filipinos and euros we might make people think were pretty tough.well thats all the rambling i can do for now im tired, i just got off the golf course with boo weekly he shot 62 from 7 thousand yards.i better stick with pool lol.
I listed you as a dark horse. However, I agree that if you and other Golfers like Archer, Strickland and Dueal played pool 24/7 you would be more than a match for any of the phillipinos. I beleive you can do it.

Is the IPT money a sufficient enough motivator to focus you and others exclusively on pool? I hope my response does not sound disrespectful or dirogitory, it is truly not my intent.
 
john schmidt said:
id like to add something.imho the filipinos really are awesome and they play more pool than the rest of us.but where they stand out over the americans is kicking.now this 8ball takes away the kicking a little.also the game of 8ball is very much like straight pool, believe me. now im not trying to say im going to do well because i play straight pool, but i would look for the europeans and american straight poolers to hold their own pretty well.also when the americans start applying themselves and quit golfing ,poker etc ,myself included and start playing pool 24-7 like the filipinos and euros we might make people think were pretty tough.well thats all the rambling i can do for now im tired, i just got off the golf course with boo weekly he shot 62 from 7 thousand yards.i better stick with pool lol.
Well stated John. I believe you hit it right on the head. Johnnyt
 
I am going to be pulling for Corey Harper who recently won a qualifier. I wlso will be pulling for Max Eberle . I like these guys and want them to do well.

Chris
 
john schmidt said:
id like to add something.imho the filipinos really are awesome and they play more pool than the rest of us.but where they stand out over the americans is kicking.now this 8ball takes away the kicking a little.also the game of 8ball is very much like straight pool, believe me. now im not trying to say im going to do well because i play straight pool, but i would look for the europeans and american straight poolers to hold their own pretty well.also when the americans start applying themselves and quit golfing ,poker etc ,myself included and start playing pool 24-7 like the filipinos and euros we might make people think were pretty tough.well thats all the rambling i can do for now im tired, i just got off the golf course with boo weekly he shot 62 from 7 thousand yards.i better stick with pool lol.

This resonates with me John,
The Philippinos have a great range of skills and many of them are continually matching up / playing hard games, making them tourney ready.

But they are not so experienced in 8-ball. As you say, 14.1 players will have some advantages over pure 9-ball players in this game. But 14.1 is not purely enough. 8-ball requires a certain level of planning, cluster breaking, double or triple shot positional playing which are all often not intrinsic to the mind of a 9-ball player or 14.1 player, though I think the 14.1 players have a definite advantage over the pure 9-ballers.

For the top 6 I expect at least 3 names that most aren't familiar with. I wouldn't be surprised if 15 of the qualifier entrants make it into the last 36 and another 10 of that 36 are near unknowns, with just around 10-12 of the known name players still active in the last 36.

Players with a familiarity of 8-ball will have an ~30% match advantage over those without the knowledge. The top players will adapt, but it could take them some time.

The English 8-ballers, though their game rules, balls and tables are slightly different. will be well suited I believe. This includes the Australians, Scotts etc. Once they get familiar with the tables and larger balls, they'll adapt their pattern knowledge and be very efficient in taking their opportunities.

My dark horses are the English style pool players and the Europeans who play more 8-ball than most Americans, though I believe their are a dozen or so Americans in the field, mainly from the qualifiers, that have strong capabilities in 8-ball.

It's gonna be a hellfire competition and some previously little known names are gonna make their mark at the Venetian. I can't wait.

Colin
 
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First thing, the BREAK, the last 16/32 of this event will ALL have the best breaks, this will seperate the best players in this event more than ANY other criteria. After that it will come down to ability to play under extreem pressure and 8 ball skill/knowledge.

The 9 ballers will struggle, big names will falter. I totally disagree about the filipinos, I dont really need to made the case you only have to look at the previous IPT events and Efren's 8 ball world titles. But straight pool will be of some advantage.

Manalo, Efren, Alex to shine, but watch out for some of the best bar box 8 ballers in the world including Appleton, Shane, Alcaide, Boyes, Hill etc.

9 ballers and snooker players to struggle, 8 ballers and straight poolers to do well, big breaking fillipinos to dominate.
 
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