New Elevation Tour - N.A.C.P.B.A. ???

nineballcc said:
I just happened to find this thread today as a result of doing some research for a pro player. He called asking what I thought of the NACPBA - and asked me to look into it.

A couple of items...
1. I noticed the question about gambling came up in this thread. On the web site it says No Gambling at an NACPBA event. That should clear up the issue - it doesn't prevent players from gambling anywhere else.

2. The amateurs are being taken from a qualifying league system....sounds to me like the plans are to get the backing and financial support of a league (APA, BCA, TAP) we all know that's where the big revenues are currently.

3. Players must get pre-approval of sponsorship deals...wow...for players that don't currently have sponsors, this isn't an issue, but for those who do, they could lose their sponsors if the NACPBA doesn't approve or if the NACPBA isn't getting sponsorship from those sponsors.

4. The final A in NACPBA is for Associations...emphasis on the plural...how many Professional Billiard Associations do we have that are pulling together into this Confederation?

I guess I have more issues than I thought...

5. No tournament entry fee is currently posted.

6. I'm a stickler for grammar and punctuation especially when it comes to web sites...enough said.

I'm hesitant to get excited for the players here, I am hopeful that something can be pulled off for the players.

As for the Regional Tours...as my friend the pro actually stated...more players would like to play the Regional Tours if they knew they stood a better chance and the pro's weren't able to play.

Someone else said it earlier, if a tour is strong enough, they won't worry about attempting to eliminate other tours. They'll keep doing their business and the tours will have to step up their game, or work with the new changes.
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I agree w/ you....And you are correct in the manner of, if you run a great tour, no others should matter to you. I will place a example here, "The Joss Tour". Mike happens to be a good friend of mine, he places no interest in what other tourny's are doing. This is because he knows what he has is strong....Great post NineBall.
Frankie
 
I hope

If this really establishes a real pro tour I hope the regional tournament will follow suit allowing only amateurs to play. I believe the participation would increase if the hand full of pros that win this events EVERYTIME were banned. Several of my friends do not like to donate their money if they feel like they do not have a chance to win. And they are good players! Perhaps the regional tours could be a qualifying platform and that would be good for everyone.

I also would like to see this new tour ( if it's for real ) unify with the major tournaments by sanctioning them and working together. The US Open , Derby City , Turning Stone , Reno open and others would really be amazing if they were given those monies to their prize pools and allowed to continue their traditions. Reward them for their hard work over the years and add to it.
 
trizzat said:
nineballcc said:
5. No tournament entry fee is currently posted.

On the tournament page there is an entry fee of $500 for regular season events listed and it says there is no entry fee for the post season tournaments.

I just noticed this and figured i'd post it.

Here's the link to the page, look about halfway down. http://www.nacpba.com/tournament.asp#seaonschedules
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Nice catch. Looks good. Just enough to make someone be serious about it.

I am really curious to see where this goes.
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seems funny to me that this new wannabe tour only rated 2 threads on AZ and apparently zero threads anywhere else. (correct me if I missed any on some other forum) then all the initial fervor died a natural death after digressing into a drug testing debate.

the other thread is here,,, http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=81895

then somebody posted an IPT announcement from a German site and already there are three threads heating up on this forum. looks like a lot of people are holding on to a broken promise of big things from the IPT.

ask youself, what did the IPT actually do for the pool world in 2007 ? sent out a few checks (which I think was good for those few players), but nothing to help the already too tarnished image of pool and the IPT.

maybe the name of the new venue, N.A.C.P.B.A., is to big of a mouthful for people to immediately grasp and repeat to someone. the short, I.P.T. was easy to grasp and to use in a conversation. unfortunately, it was easily remembered and now a lot of people just can't seem to forget it and move forward.

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,j

...and P. T. Barnum is/was still RIGHT !
 
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I Want To Get Involved

GG11 said:
Has anyone heard of this new tour? Trying to get some more information about it. The membership requirements are ... WOW! But it could be quite interesting if it were legit.

Is this legit? Anyone know?

http://www.nacpba.com/
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I COMPLETED THE FORM FOR INFO AND WAS PROMISED A RESPONSE WITHIN
48 HOURS; 47 TO GO. WILL KEEP THIS SITE POSTED.

COLLECTION GURU
COLLECTIONGURU@GMAIL.COM
 
:rolleyes: it just came to me...the IPT announcement was put out as a marketing ploy to kill any chances of the new group, NACPBA, had of succeeding. GOOD ONE, KT,,,you still got the touch ! :eek:
 
new pool league

corvette1340 said:
Looks legit to me! I already paypal'd the guy my $2500, can't wait for the first event. I just hope Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton don't show up thinking its a N.A.A.C.P event instead of an N.A.C.P.B.A event.
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NEW POOL LEAGUE FOR GENERAL MOTOR EMAIL ADDRESSES!!!!!!!!!!! $5000 MONTHLY DUES WITH $500,000 PAID ON EVERY 4/01 AFTER 12 CONSECUTIVE MONTHS OF PAID DUES!!!!!!!!!!! IT IS GUARANTEED BY THE COLLECTION GURU. SEND MONEY TO GURU AT P..O. BOX 0U812, FLORIDA[/FONT]
 
COLLECTION GURU said:
NEW POOL LEAGUE FOR GENERAL MOTOR EMAIL ADDRESSES!!!!!!!!!!! $5000 MONTHLY DUES WITH $500,000 PAID ON EVERY 4/01 AFTER 12 CONSECUTIVE MONTHS OF PAID DUES!!!!!!!!!!! IT IS GUARANTEED BY THE COLLECTION GURU. SEND MONEY TO GURU AT P..O. BOX 0U812, FLORIDA[/FONT]
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sounds legit to me. What is your paypal address?
 
COLLECTION GURU said:
VERY FUNNY; YOU CAN ALMOST WRITE!!!!

GURU
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I will be in Warsaw, Poland for the Nuclear Summit on Monday if you are in town then we could meet there. After that I'm flying into Bogata, Columbia to check up on the Administration Against Better Drug Trafficing and make sure things are going well on that front. Other than that, I'll just be sitting here at my desk playing internet poker and looking at some free porn. Let me know.
 
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corvette1340 said:
I will be in Warsaw, Poland for the Nuclear Summit on Monday if you are in town then we could meet there. After that I'm flying into Bogata, Columbia to check up on the Administration Against Better Drug Trafficing and make sure things are going well on that front. Other than that, I'll just be sitting here at my desk playing internet poker and looking at some free porn. Let me know.
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DON'T GO; IT IS A TEST SITE NOT A SUMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
lodini said:
It looks as though they don't plan on dealing at all... one of the rules is "Members may not participate in billiards activities outside the NACPBA without prior approval from the NACPBA." This may or may not mean that its members won't be able to play anywhere else. But with 31 events per year, who would have time!?

(Not that this is a bad thing at all... maybe this is the one unified tour everyone has been waiting for??)
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31 events per year is a very hectic schedule for anyone.
 
supergreenman said:
I can't think of a single drug in existance that could be classified as performance enhancing when it comes to cue sports.

Prove me wrong I dare you.
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There are many we could dig up that would disagree.
 
After reading the BD piece on the main page here at AZ, I have a hunch this might be for real. I like the fact that they don't want the $2500 right away. I also have a feeling that your going to see close to the top 128 on this tour, not the Bernies and "I use to be greats" like the IPT. I like the fact that their not trying to kiss anyons ass. If you don't feel right about it...don't join. If they showed the purse money is in the bank and I was a player...I'd sign up and play. What difference does it make where the money came from at this point. The other tour was funded with money stolen from the old and the sick. Look at what Don King has done for boxing...and he's a convicted murderer. Johnnyt
 
I've been waiting to see more information on this before giving any kind of opinion. With the newest cover page story on AZ about this newly formed tour, I feel as skeptical as ever. This may sound simple, but I havent seen too many multi-million dollar businesses or ventures that have or would establish a web site with so many gramatical errors. First impressions and presentation are everything for emerging businesses. Another thing that worries me is the tour's director failing to give any credible answers to where the money is coming from, especially with all of the failed and disappointing billiard ventures that have been attempted in the past. If I were in his position, it would be my initial goal to present as much information as possible to cement the credibility of the tour in the minds of both the players and the billiard community. This is just of course my initial response and opinion, perhaps it will change in a few months when Mr. Dennis says he will give more in depth information on the financing and formatting of the tournaments.
 
I'm curious about this new venture, too. I wonder why someone didn't proof read or at least have a spell check running.

still think they (whoever) should have spent some time coming up with a "catchier" name. it's all about marketing, the better sounding organization gets better, almost instant recognition.

this group/idea has a long way to go before it kicks off. unfortunately the other bunch (IPT) has jumped in the fray with grandious promises again.

I'll wait until a background check of the principals in the NACPBA has been done. the pool world doesn't need another KT. I'm hoping he (KT) is one of a kind and will soon be smiling through steel bars. ...............JMHO
 
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