nicest and meanest

Heather Pulford is one of the nicest players I have ever met. I have her in my phone as "Heather Nice." :)

Tough crowd she's in, though - there are plenty of players I could list (and ironically, some have posted in this thread!!)

As for the meanest - they say if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it (although that hasn't stopped me in the past, but I will defer attm so I can think about it some more). :eek:
 
Some of the nicest I know...have met...

Jennifer Barretta
Melissa Morris
Laura Smith
Caroline Pao
Pat Fleming from Accustats
Stu Mattana
Mark Wilson

As for mean people...I don't think I've met anyone "mean". Shady...definitely...but mean...nah.

Melissa
 
How big WAS he ??

Happily, there are far too many nice people in pool to single out one or two. But the meanest I've encountered over a pool table was Little Paul beating a man to death with a pay phone. Some people are just bad losers.

Howard

the whole booth , or just the receiver ?!? :shocked2:
 
If they come any nicer than Tony Robles I want to know where they are. I have been to four Worlds Fairs. 14 Rodeos, 5 foriegn countries, 5 Goat Roping contest and 7 US Open Nine Ball Championships and I have yet to meet a Pool Player any nicer. Plus he is a great teacher !!!
 
The nicest person I've ever met at a pool hall would have to be Mr. John lepartice that used to run the tulsa billiards palace........awesome character, very nice, full of info and old stories....always a pleasure, I need to say hi to him for sure next time I'm around Oklahoma.

Nicest person I've ever met at an event/tournament was Gradys wife Randii (RIP) bless her soul she was the sweetest woman.....met her for the first time when I was sleeping on the dam beach at Gradys Gulf Coast Classic back in '04...its was nice of her to befriend me just a kid amoung all these legends and older players......months later they didn't want to let me stay in sidepockets for Eddie Taylors b-day cuz I was too young (18, had to be 21)....well she bought me a little time to at least visit and say hi to a few of my friends I had made down in Gulfport and wish eddie happy birthday (wasn't that much of a long time that he passed away after that).......wonderfuly nice woman I can't say enough about her......Grady, I can only hope to have as great a woman as you had in my future.

Randii and John are some of the finest people I have ever met and I'll stick to that comment pretty dam strong.


-Grey Ghost-

VERY NICE POST about Randi. I agree 100%!
 
There are a lot of nice people in this game and I like many listed, but one of my favorites to listen to is Mike Massey.
After the hell that guy has been through, it is just incredible.
We talked for about 4 hours one night about 3 years ago, and he said he was thinking of an auto biography and the title. I said man, that's easy, "To Hell and Back"!

The meanest???? Not sure but most pool players I have met when confronted while trying to be mean, backed off pretty easily from what I remember!!
one of the meanest, but not dangerous ws Joey Torman. That guy would sell his mothers fingers for $20.00.
He went out scuffling with guy in Denver who had an artificial leg. Dick took the leg off when he slept. one time when in a stooper and passed out Joey was calling pawn shops trying to unload.it.
I think Kevin Trudeau will go down in my book as one the meanest snakes every. Him and his little fat assed yes Man, can't remember his name!
But Joey would make KT look like a Choir Boy!
 
Nicest... close call between Tony Robles and Tony Crosby. They are both great players and good people that epitomize the word "professional".

I'm not sure if this fits the definition of "mean", but Gene Skinner was a very intimidating character, and if he didn't like you, he had no problem letting you know about it. Kindness and subtlety were not his strongpoints.

Gene Skinner, there is a name that few would have ever heard of. If I may ask where did you know him from? I was watching Gene playing once and he was losing. At some point he bit his lip and began to bleed. He just superficially wiped it off and he looked like a vampire as he was playing with blood dripping down his face and an angry scowl. I guess that looked a bit intimidating. I only knew him when he was older but liked him a lot. He gave me his Szamboti cue before he died.

Now that you remind me of Gene I have an answer for who was the meaning person I ever saw. It involved Gene. He was playing a guy straight pool just a few weeks before he died. They were playing 150 points for $2500.00. Gene won the game and the guy threw the money on the table and said, "Go get yourself some more chemotherapy".

I should add, the guy Gene was playing was not a nobody and some on here would recognize his name. He is better known as a dog player and gambler then a pool player. I never spoke to him again after that it sickened me so badly. This was a guy I had previously regarded as a friend.

For nicest I guess it would be hard to beat Tommy Kennedy. It is not an act the guy doesn't have a mean bone in his body. Of the older guys I guess Big Bob was a pretty decent guy to be around.
 
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Daddy didn't like it. (Kick bank to my pkt)

nicest = Efren

meanest = Hubert Cokes aka Daddy Warbucks (never met him (too young to have) but read and heard enough that I'm glad I didn't) :eek:

Best,
Brian kc


Hubert "Daddy Warbucks" Cokes, was definitely not a big money loser. He would put guys like me in action by staking us for a hundred or two a game, but that was because he liked action. He would play for big money himself, 500 or 1000 a game, but he made sure he had a little edge and if he did lose he wouldn't lose a batch of games. Two or three barrels was about his limit. He was a turned out hustler and knew every move.

One night he was staking me to play 1pkt down in Johnston City for a $100 a game. It was a given that if he staked you, he would whisper what to do in certain situations. Everybody would make believe that they didn't hear him interfering in the game. A kick bank to my pocket came up and I wanted to shoot it. It was kind of a tough angle because the object ball was pretty far off of the long rail. Cokes advised me to do something else. I insisted, promised I could execute the shot, and convinced him to let me do it. Naturally, I couldn't bring it under the circumstances, and ended up scratching in the pocket. Cokes gave me a withering look and said, "Don't do that any more." I didn't, and I didn't ask him to back me anymore either. Better to be broke than dead.

As I mentioned in one of my books. IMO Hubert Cokes was the baddest SOB of the first 50 years of the 20th century. That includes fists and guns. Hubert was 6'3 and was never known to have been whipped. My own friend and road partner, Sugar Shack Johnny Novak was a wild man and feared no one, but even he gave Cokes a wide berth. In a fist fight I wouldn't know who to bet on. Cokes was not wild, he was cold-blooded. He shot a very bad guy in the kneecaps when he was 70 plus and watched him bleed to death. He once had a gun battle with the Sheriff of Hot Springs AR over a woman. He outdrew him and killed him.

Even in his 70s he carried 3 pistols at all times. What more can I say. Sugar Shack was my friend and one of my heroes, but Cokes was a legend.


Beard
 
He was my guy too

Gene Skinner, there is a name that few would have ever heard of. If I may ask where did you know him from? I was watching Gene playing once and he was losing. At some point he bit his lip and began to bleed. He just superficially wiped it off and he looked like a vampire as he was playing with blood dripping down his face and an angry scowl. I guess that looked a bit intimidating. I only knew him when he was older but liked him a lot. He gave me his Szamboti cue before he died.

Now that you remind me of Gene I have an answer for who was the meaning person I ever saw. It involved Gene. He was playing a guy straight pool just a few weeks before he died. They were playing 150 points for $2500.00. Gene won the game and the guy threw the money on the table and said, "Go get yourself some more chemotherapy".

I should add, the guy Gene was playing was not a nobody and some on here would recognize his name. He is better known as a dog player and gambler then a pool player. I never spoke to him again after that it sickened me so badly. This was a guy I had previously regarded as a friend.....
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Gene Skinner was a hard-nosed old scuff that gave no quarter. It broke my heart when I called him in Fla and he told me that he had been hit with what he called, "The Big Casino," lung cancer, and the prognosis was dim. As he did with everything, he handled it like a champion.

Beard

Macguy, I was close enough to Skindel (as he called himself) as you knew, for me to want to know the identity of the creep that said that to Gene.
 
Back to nice guys. Thorsten Holman once took time out from his practice to help me with a camera that i was having trouble with. i find pool p[layers like any other people are generally nice. that is until they are losing bad and are broke.then you might see the other side. Humans being human.
Honorable mention to Nick Varner, seems to always have a smile on his face.
 
let me start with the nice people. i would have to say any pro player at any event, men and women, have been very cordial to me. i don't know if that transfers over to everyday life but an autograph and a few minutes of conversation have always been pleasant.
that list would include but is not limited to, johhny archer, thorsten holman, corey duel, sean putnam, gabe owen, allison fisher, stevie moore and especially john schmidt (very funny guy). the other night i had a chance to meet and talk to chris bartram and he was also a very nice guy. i have only dealt with two cue makers, dick neighbors and steve lomax and you couldn't ask for better. i have also met mike gulyassy and dennis searing. dennis did some repair work for me back in the early to mid 90's - when his shop was on orange down in davie fl. doubt he would remember, but i do and he was nice to me talking to me for an hour or more every time i was in his shop about wood, cues, pool, anything. they also seemed very nice. room owners i have met, richard sweet who passed away last year owned mr. cues 2 here in atlanta. you couldn't ask for a better person. the crew that own and run classic in conyers are also very nice people.
my teacher is a guy most people won't know but his name is clay fisher. he is a local player and has taught me alot about alot. alice rim used to be on the wpba tour and now offers lessons out of mr. cues and she is very nice, i may take a few lessons from her as well in the near future.
now the aholes. mostly people i have played against. so for me that means alot of league players. the apa is riddled with people of all skill levels who regularly fall on both sides of the fence. skill level has nothing to do with how they act and treat people. i have been treated poorly by 2's and 9's alike. there are also more than few nasty people who play in the bca. they apearantly feel thier s*it doesn't stink because they are a little bit better than most of the average players.
the only prominant pool person i have had a very nasty and public disagreement with is john barton. i am not opening up wounds here john or looking to go another round, i am just saying we don't get along and we have had our arguments here in public. it's a shame, but not everyone will like everyone else. i say that because many people like and respect john. and john and i just don't like each other.
in closing i have to say my experiences with the pool community at large have been very nice overall and i am thankful for that.
 
I am not going to name any names, but one of the nicest and one of the meanest people I knew in the pool world was the same person, he was a stake horse that used to show up at the tournaments. He would pat you on the back when in a good mood and hit you across the back with a pool stick if you got out of line with him.
 
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Mr. Steve

His real name was Steve Paternostro and he was one of the local characters that the infamous Sports Palace had spawned.

Mr. Steve would slip in quietly without much fan fare and you would hardly even know he was there, unless you saw him take a hit on one of his small respiratory inhalers that he always kept with him. He talked quietly almost timidly but he had the ability to talk without even uttering words, although when he spoke, you would always want to listen.

He always arrived at around Midnight or even later, never during the day. I don't know if it was to catch some of the younger guys off guard but I'm sure he didn't come in that late to catch someone drunk because I never saw him playing with anyone who was drunk.

Mr. Steve would mosey up to the table you were practicing on, giving small nods of approval as to what you were trying to accomplish never once admonishing you for your mistakes, only complimenting you for what you were able to excel at and never with a lot of words, mostly just nodding an all-knowing nod is as best as I can describe it.

If you looked up like you might be interested in playing him some one pocket, he would graciously agree to play some cheap, a couple of dollars a game or maybe for the time. Mr. Steve was always neatly dressed and had impeccable manners, never sharking and always a pleasure to play one pocket with, except that he NEVER lost. Well maybe he lost a game here and there but you could be assured that overall he was going to spank you, not hard, but just enough that it would teach you something.

The other thing was, he would never brag about beating anyone. In talking to him you would think he had never beaten anyone in the pool room. The truth was, he stayed away from the real killers in the pool room and plied his trade on the newbies like myself. Mr. Stever was one of those guys who could beat you out of a few games and excuse himself and you were wondering; what the hell, it was only for the time, why did he quit? If he won a few dollars from you the pain was soon forgotten because almost always he would leave you with a little pool tip that always seemed to make it worth your while.

I played Mr. Steve for about three years at the Sports Palace and I never beat him out of a dollar in all those years. We didn't play every week but he would show up like something in a dream that you never expected, usually dressed in black and white as I recall, often wearing a long London Fog type overcoat, sometimes carryin an umbrella if it was raining outside.

One night after the years of getting spanked, my knowledge of one pocket had increased and I had been waiting weeks for him to return. My game had improved enough that I was sure I could beat him. Finally that night came. He slipped in quietly as a mouse, moving quietly stopping by my table but not approaching me, just about ready to take a seat and I whipped around with that eager anticipation and excitedly told him, "Are you ready Mr. Steve?" He replied, "Oh no son, you've gotten too good for me. I can't beat you any more." My mouth fell open with disbelief as I cried, "Mr. Steve, you've beaten me for three years. You've beaten me out of $66 and God knows how much pool time. Are you serious?" (I had kept track even though it was small losses each time over those three years). He kindly responded with a respectful sincerity that only Mr. Steve could proffer, "Oh yes, you've become quite the player, Joey but that $66 is all locked up in the bank". :grin::grin: :grin:

RIP Mr. Steve and thank you. You taught me a lot about life and pool.
 
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