Two players playing nine ball for a small wager. Playing rack your own. Player A racks the balls, but inadvertently places the nine ball at the back of the rack. Player B notices this but does not say anything. Player B also shh's the couple of spectators who also noticed the error in the rack. Player A breaks the balls and the nine goes in a pocket. Player B jumps up yelling foul, and grabs the cue off the table. Player A is like what foul. Player B with the help of the spectators states what happen. Bickering starts over if it's a foul or not because you let them be broken. Or is Player B just an a-hole for not pointing out the error in the first place.
nine ball ruling please
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It is a good move, if you can get away with it.
Both sides can be at fault here, Player A racked and should've payed more attention to where the nine was racked, Player B could've of shown a bit of Sportsmanship and informed Player A of the Nine Ball.
So yep, both can be at fault, me personally my integrity will get the best of me and i would've stopped Player A from breaking that rack and made him relocate the nine.
So yep, both can be at fault, me personally my integrity will get the best of me and i would've stopped Player A from breaking that rack and made him relocate the nine.
Same as being past the head string on the break You Must Notify the shooter if not you except the results. If you notify the shooter and he doesn't not correct the problem and shoots then it is a foul on the break. This is not the same a shooting the wrong ball and not saying anything. All rule sets would require the correction.
Definitely a lack of sportsmanship. If its about the money, then Player B would have been better to mug him out in the parking lot. If its about winning and bragging, then he should have corrected it before the break and beat him fair and square. How can you brag about cheating? Or in this case, borderline cheating. I mean, come on, what did he expect would happen? Player A would just let that go on a money match?!
What decision did they finally reach?
What decision did they finally reach?
Not sure what the ruling would be here outside of just being a nice thing to do.
Is it a foul? The 1 was hit first. If the rack was illegal, would not that invalidate the game and at best the breaker would lose the break and a re-rack for the opponent, or just a re-break by the original shooter?
Is it a foul? The 1 was hit first. If the rack was illegal, would not that invalidate the game and at best the breaker would lose the break and a re-rack for the opponent, or just a re-break by the original shooter?
Small wager you say, odds are they know each other, so I go with dick move.
And if I was player A, and player B noticed and said nothing, then I'm taking it as a game won.
Now the people I gamble with, we'd of just racked them up again and start over, but it would've been pointed out before the break.
And if I was player A, and player B noticed and said nothing, then I'm taking it as a game won.
Now the people I gamble with, we'd of just racked them up again and start over, but it would've been pointed out before the break.
If I was player A, and I believed the spectators, the only option I would give player B is
re-rack.
I would also tell him that if he thinks this is an indication of how he's going to compete
with me, we're going to have to play for a lot more money...and hire a referee.
I'm also going to inform those two spectators that from now on their opinions should not
be heard unless BOTH players agree that they should be heard.
A guy like that most likely is a poor player or he wouldn't need a move like that. A good player might be able to string him along and get him locked into over his head.
If this happened in a tournament/match setting I agree award player A the win and give player B a warning for unsportsmanlike conduct.
JC
Coos Cues
This^^^^^^^^
And that would be the end of the match too if he argued as I would resign. And no I would not pay up. I would just quit and tell player Bravo to pound sand.
JC
The BCAPL rules specifically address this issue.
BCAPL Rule 1-14.5
If the arrangement of the rack does not meet the requirements of the specific game, it
will be corrected without penalty. If your opponent's rack does not meet the requirements
and you do not notify them before they break, the game will continue with no penalty.
BCAPL Rule 1-14.5
If the arrangement of the rack does not meet the requirements of the specific game, it
will be corrected without penalty. If your opponent's rack does not meet the requirements
and you do not notify them before they break, the game will continue with no penalty.
I think its important to know exactly where this happened at and the name of the person and a facebook profile... Everybody here can go tell him the rules !
My ruling is that player B intentionally allowed a violation of the rules of the game to occur. Both players are responsible for seeing that all the rules are followed. Player B loses the game.
Or, you can play nasty little mind games under the guise of playing pool.
Extening that thought, if one notices his opponent is shhoting a ball out of sequece, does the window to call foul close once the incorrect ball is struck?
I think nor.