no ferrule

[desi2960]

i have a bunch of real old high growth ring shafts. and in an attempt to get my cues to hit even stiffer, i want to try the no ferrule tip, but do not know exact procedure. should i use pads? if so what kind and where can i get a few. i will be using morri med and quick tips, or any suggestions? any info will really help because i'm in uncharted waters. thank you chuck starkey

 

[JoeyInCali]

I dunno why it would play stiffer but the hardest backer I think would be a melamine disc.

 

[BHQ]

i have a bunch of real old high growth ring shafts. and in an attempt to get my cues to hit even stiffer, i want to try the no ferrule tip, but do not know exact procedure. should i use pads? if so what kind and where can i get a few. i will be using morri med and quick tips, or any suggestions? any info will really help because i'm in uncharted waters. thank you chuck starkey

chuck i have some black fiber pads that atlas sells
if you need a few , let me know
brent

 

[cueman]

Ont eh lower end cues my son has been building for some of the locals he is using a black fiber pad and no ferrule. It hits okay but people have been wearing chalk grooves in their wood. So I think many will wind up havng a ferrule on the cues eventually.

 

[RocketQ]

Ont eh lower end cues my son has been building for some of the locals he is using a black fiber pad and no ferrule. It hits okay but people have been wearing chalk grooves in their wood. So I think many will wind up havng a ferrule on the cues eventually.

I hate those. How hard is it to use a good piece of chalk for the tip??

 

[desi2960]

chris

those people are just going to have to learn to put the chalk on the tip and not on the side of the shaft, bhq has offered to send me what i need. thanks to all for the info. chuck

 

[BLACKHEARTCUES]

i have a bunch of real old high growth ring shafts. and in an attempt to get my cues to hit even stiffer, i want to try the no ferrule tip, but do not know exact procedure. should i use pads? if so what kind and where can i get a few. i will be using morri med and quick tips, or any suggestions? any info will really help because i'm in uncharted waters. thank you chuck starkey

I think that the only way to get a shaft to play stiff, is to give it a STIFFER TAPER. A tip or ferrule might give you a HARDER sounding hit, but not stiffer...JER

 

[BlowFish]

I think that the only way to get a shaft to play stiff, is to give it a STIFFER TAPER. A tip or ferrule might give you a HARDER sounding hit, but not stiffer...JER

You're the man.

 

[McChen]

you could try a brass ferrule like on a snooker cue, that will hit really hard, esp on a heavier pool ball. could add a bit of deflection though

 

[manwon]

i have a bunch of real old high growth ring shafts. and in an attempt to get my cues to hit even stiffer, i want to try the no ferrule tip, but do not know exact procedure. should i use pads? if so what kind and where can i get a few. i will be using morri med and quick tips, or any suggestions? any info will really help because i'm in uncharted waters. thank you chuck starkey

Chuck, I have built a couple of shafts without ferrules for a customer. I made a pad from the same Canvas phenolic rods I use for jump break ferrules. I just cut off a 2/16th piece from a Rod epoxied it to the end of the shaft, when dry I turned it down to the shaft diameter and 1/16th thickness. Installed the tip using CA and have re-tipped the shafts a number of times since with no problems. I think the pad will give the wood a little extra strength from the impacts.

Oh and by the way, I also use the same material on Ivory ferrules, it also works great for them.

Hope this helps!!

 

[BHQ]

those people are just going to have to learn to put the chalk on the tip and not on the side of the shaft, bhq has offered to send me what i need. thanks to all for the info. chuck

went out in mail today chuck

 

[hang-the-9]

Aside from the chalk marks on wood, what happens on a miscue? I see it easily putting a mark on the wood. If you see the slow-mo videos of a miscue, the ferrule slaps the cue after contact. That ferrule is now your shaft.

 

[Varney Cues]

I think that the only way to get a shaft to play stiff, is to give it a STIFFER TAPER. A tip or ferrule might give you a HARDER sounding hit, but not stiffer...JER

TAP TAP TAP
The exception being say a submerged lumber shaft. They will indeed hit more stiff than a traditional shaft with the same taper. I really don't like them at all for playing cues....fine for j/b's though.

 

[desi2960]

stiff taper

i use what is called a european or stiff taper on most of my cues now. i just like to experiment. varney, i have tryed the sumerged lumber shaft, both birch and maple, both seemed to to hit a bit dull for my taste. craig thanks for the canvas phenolic info, i'll give it a try also.