I can't believe this thread is still going! Nice Iowa cameo here.
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no more free water at Hanks
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I'm searching through my "pool hall rule book", and I don't see the section that says a pool hall HAS to put water out for free.
Try going to a fast food joint, a restaurant, concert, or any other venue and ask for a glass of water WITHOUT BUYING ANYTHING ELSE. See what happens then.
Truth be told, I don't think I could ask the bartender/waitress for a glass of water with nothing else, and not pay for it. Hell, at a minimum, I'd tip her $1.
If I want a free glass of water that bad, I'll ask for it when I order something off the menu.
Try going to a fast food joint, a restaurant, concert, or any other venue and ask for a glass of water WITHOUT BUYING ANYTHING ELSE. See what happens then.
Truth be told, I don't think I could ask the bartender/waitress for a glass of water with nothing else, and not pay for it. Hell, at a minimum, I'd tip her $1.
If I want a free glass of water that bad, I'll ask for it when I order something off the menu.
Sorry, I have to say something about that...this is the one that burns me up (nothing personally directed at you for this)...to have the audacity to walk into an establishment that SELLS drinks (for as little as $1) with your own drink is beyond me!!!
That's like walking into Aplebee's with a McDonald's bag and expect to be seated in their restaurant while you eat your Big Mac!!! These are things people shouldn't be rude enough to do...
Just my opinion...
Jason
Most establishments that serve food and beverages legally are not allowed outside food and drink to come in.If you are not willing to support aplace that caters to you -do everybody a favor and don't go there!
The worst cheap offenders are the gamblers who spend little or no money,
but try to take money out of paying customers pockets! It is like adding
insult to injury!
Jack
The worst cheap offenders are the gamblers who spend little or no money,
but try to take money out of paying customers pockets! It is like adding
insult to injury!
Jack
Measureman is quite the joker.
Please everyone, no more posting on this thread.
I'm the one that will hear about this and see MM's ear-to-ear grin all day tomorrow at Hank's.
If anyone is interested I will be selling cues and bottled water in Hank's parking lot this weekend only.
Free water with any cue purchase
This may seem counterintuitive at first, but i think a lot of businesses lose money because they don't allow people to bring drinks in. In the US, not to bring food in is a pretty established norm, but should it be? In Mexico I walk up to food stands and even restairants with a beer or a coke all the time. If anybody every says something to me, guess what i'll do.... walk 10 feet and buy the tacos at the next stand. You'd gotta figure they'd rather have me there than not, right? I guess this discussion is realing out of hand now, haha. My point really is thought I can't tell you how many times i'll eat at home, but i'd really rather buy a burger out, yet i dont wanna go that extra mile and pay for a 3 dollar coke. Again, I have no beef with the companies, I just think they might be losing business-- who knows.
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You can put me down for not wanting to pay for water. Call me crazy but I have actually enjoyed this discussion. It has been a good diversion from work for me. What I really enjoyed was the Spider1 vs. Neil posts.
Let me interject my 2 cents on THEIR discussion: A lot of us were with you Neil when you stated you wouldn't pay $1 for water. I actually cancelled an order at a fast food restaurant here recently when I spent over $5 for my lunch but they still wanted to charge me 50 cents for a small cup of water. I told them to forget the whole thing. Some people may call me cheap but I just thought that was ridiculous. Anyways, back to Hank's. Neil, the part you lost us on was when you stated you had no desire to support the pool room. You just go there to play and win money for yourself (something to that effect). Now, I will agree that almost nobody sits at home and thinks to themselves "hey, today would be a great day to go to the pool hall and give them some of my business so that they can keep the doors open." I certainly don't do that. However, when I'm actually there I do make it a point to spend a few dollars (order a meal and a drink, etc) in order to help out the business.
So Neil, either you really don't like the halls you play in (I've been to a few that I really don't care if they stay in business or not) or in an attempt to point out that going to the pool hall wasn't some sort of altruistic charitable endeavor on your part, you took it a bit too far. I'm guessing it’s the latter.
Let me interject my 2 cents on THEIR discussion: A lot of us were with you Neil when you stated you wouldn't pay $1 for water. I actually cancelled an order at a fast food restaurant here recently when I spent over $5 for my lunch but they still wanted to charge me 50 cents for a small cup of water. I told them to forget the whole thing. Some people may call me cheap but I just thought that was ridiculous. Anyways, back to Hank's. Neil, the part you lost us on was when you stated you had no desire to support the pool room. You just go there to play and win money for yourself (something to that effect). Now, I will agree that almost nobody sits at home and thinks to themselves "hey, today would be a great day to go to the pool hall and give them some of my business so that they can keep the doors open." I certainly don't do that. However, when I'm actually there I do make it a point to spend a few dollars (order a meal and a drink, etc) in order to help out the business.
So Neil, either you really don't like the halls you play in (I've been to a few that I really don't care if they stay in business or not) or in an attempt to point out that going to the pool hall wasn't some sort of altruistic charitable endeavor on your part, you took it a bit too far. I'm guessing it’s the latter.
Thanks, and yes, maybe I took it a little too far.
Hmmm, people who go to baseball games oftentimes buy their peanuts for half price before they enter the stadium. Other people bring their own water cooler with waterin them.
Ever go to a movie theater in which people bring in their own food and water with them?
What about the audacity of these folks not supporting the establishment? Shame on all of you!
Good point PSA! You inspired me to say that sometimes before I go grocery shopping I will eat something so I don't impulse buy just because I am hungry:smile:.
Hmmm, people who go to baseball games oftentimes buy their peanuts for half price before they enter the stadium. Other people bring their own water cooler with water
Ever go to a movie theater in which people bring in their own food and water with them?
What about the audacity of these folks not supporting the establishment? Shame on all of you!
Try to bring a cooler into a big league stadium.... heh heh. You might sneak something in, but not much. The pro teams are good at what they do on the field, and the pro teams stadium crews are pretty good at what they do, too.
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I understand your feelings on that, but in the US many states do not allow outside beverage to be brought in any place that serves alcohol (Arizona being a good example). The thinking here is that the licensee has no way of knowing what exactly is being brought in, and no way to 'police' outside beverages for things like overconsumption (cutting someone off) or whatever. There is a tiny loophole for wine being brought into restaurants, but it is really restrictive (basically, has to be a really small restaurant like occupancy of 50, rest. cannot have its own liquor license, and rest. must have a permit to allow outside alcohol, etc).
Even in states that allow outside beverages in bars, it is a losing proposition from the bar's point of view: they lose out on sales, and they now become liable for the drinking actions of a 'customer' who didn't buy the booze from them!
I know this isn't exactly the situation you described, but just throwing this out there as some info for how/why rules like that exist in many states.
Edit: thought of another AZ loophole: sports stadiums. You can bring in an outside bottle of water if it is sealed, and yes they do check sometimes.
IMO, free water, and unlimited good coffee (e.g. Peet's, Sbux, or other) refills is a must :thumbup:
Then again, if I ever own a pool room, I may change my mind
- but I doubt it.
And all the time I thought he was talking about "long Beach Bill M."
I think if you order something off the menu and tell the pool room I'm drinking my own water, it should be OK. If you read my entire post you know where I stand. All I'm saying is the $1 charge for a bottle of water is more than reasonable and it's not worth of a lengthy debate like the one we have now. If you are upset about the charge, find some way to deal with it...
Growing businesses
I noticed while heading to the SF Giants game a few weeks back, there were quite a few "vendors" selling peanuts, hot dogs, and other items along the way to the stadium.....all at least 1/2 price or less than the $8 hot dog inside. Lots of people bring their own food to the stadium, and it's allowed; even bottled sodas as long as it's plastic and not glass containers. It seems the prices at ball games just keep going up, up, up. That doesn't seem to make the lines any shorter waiting for the food and beer, though. Goes with that saying, "they wouldn't be charging it if people weren't paying it."
Hmmm, people who go to baseball games oftentimes buy their peanuts for half price before they enter the stadium. Other people bring their own water cooler with water
Ever go to a movie theater in which people bring in their own food and water with them?
What about the audacity of these folks not supporting the establishment? Shame on all of you!
I noticed while heading to the SF Giants game a few weeks back, there were quite a few "vendors" selling peanuts, hot dogs, and other items along the way to the stadium.....all at least 1/2 price or less than the $8 hot dog inside. Lots of people bring their own food to the stadium, and it's allowed; even bottled sodas as long as it's plastic and not glass containers. It seems the prices at ball games just keep going up, up, up. That doesn't seem to make the lines any shorter waiting for the food and beer, though. Goes with that saying, "they wouldn't be charging it if people weren't paying it."
I have another thread going asking League players what they spend on average on a League night...basic premise behind me posing the question is there are toooo many League players (in this League...not everywhere) who seem to think their APA dues cover the "cost" of them playing pool. If I allowed them to bring their own drinks in as well, I may as well call this a not-for-profit charity. Pool Halls, restaurants, bars, etc. aren't charities...their businesses meant to make money.
That being said, I would have no problem giving you one of MY waters/beers/sodas or whatever if you're one of those people who are spending a fair amount of money in my establishment... However, anyone who has the audacity to come into any establishment with their own product that is also sold at that establishment is asking for trouble...meaning the owners could very easily raise other prices to compensate for the revenue loss...then the majority will be pissed off about the price increases and eventually the doors will close because no one will want to pay the higher prices.
Seems melodramatic over $1 bottle of water, but realistically it's happening all the time....
THE ONLY EXCEPTION I WOULD MAKE: Any medical condition that causes a person to only consume something I don't/can't keep in stock...yes, hard to monitor honesty on this one, but eventually, if it's a lie it would come out...
No way...it's way better than the same old "What's your favorite cue to play with" threads...
This one's been fun without too many people getting irritated with each other... Jason
I hope the ABP worked "free water" into thier US Open negotiations somehow 
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Or maybe they had to give up the free water option in exchange for having all the monies before the event.
My goodness, if a pool player has to PAY for a glass or bottle of water, the fallout could be disaterous !!!!!
.Or maybe they had to give up the free water option in exchange for having all the monies before the event.
My goodness, if a pool player has to PAY for a glass or bottle of water, the fallout could be disaterous !!!!!