Official Scores

I'm just tuning in to this thread,
and noticed that I had seen this exercise before, about a year ago,
and I created a spreadsheet to keep scores and averages.
Just recently I saw it on the web as
The Alan Hopkins Q-Skill Rating.

Click here to download
my free spreadsheet/scoresheet.

(Microsoft Excel required)

It was set up for 1,2 or 3 players per sheet,
and scoring 10 sets of 10 racks for each player.
It will total and average each set and cumulative for all sets,
and give you your ranking as you play.

Enjoy!​
 
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My Score

Table - Gandy
Pocket size 5"
Table condition - Dirty, unlevel, hard rails.
Ball condition - dirty, worn out, chipped, rough like 1000 grit, not at all shiny. Throw, is the worst I've ever seen.
It's tough to get a tight rack, I slug racked myself 4 times.

Set 1) 20, 20, 5, 20, 12, 20, 10, 18, 20, 16 = 161



Answer, I ordered a new set of balls to play with on these crappy tables. LOL Otherwise I'd have to kill myself.:D

Rod
 
Rod said:
I slug racked myself 4 times.

Rod

Rod,
I don't think you should tolerate that kind of behavior from the "rack boy." You are definitely one of the pre-tournament favorites, this kind of thing could affect your chance at immortality. Let him have it (visions of Tyler Durden punching himself out in the parking lot - obscure "Fight Club" reference).
 
Williebetmore said:
Rod,
I don't think you should tolerate that kind of behavior from the "rack boy." You are definitely one of the pre-tournament favorites, this kind of thing could affect your chance at immortality. Let him have it (visions of Tyler Durden punching himself out in the parking lot - obscure "Fight Club" reference).


Ha Ha, well I didn't say anything Willie. I thought he was going to impale himself over my cue. Seems an honorable way to go! One of the favorites, I doubt it, I play so little it takes at least an hour to find whats left of a stroke.

Rod
 
Williebetmore said:
EQUIPMENT: 9 foot GCIV, 4 1/8" corner pockets, 4 1/2" side pockets.

Session #1 = 16,20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 1, 2, 3 = 142 (Just an example!)
Session #2 =
Session #3 =
Session #4 =
Session #5 =

AVG. =
Total =

Hey, Mr. Tournament Director....when are you gonna stop posting and start playing???? hmmm???? What?....are you chicken??? cluck cluck cluck

Calling you out, doc,

Jeff Livingston
 
It's looking more and more like my score will be the "caboose" of this train. :(

Maybe I will get a beat up, cut, goose-shat-on, Top Flight XL that DM found on the golf course?!?!?!? :p
 
ScottR said:
It's looking more and more like my score will be the "caboose" of this train. :(

Maybe I will get a beat up, cut, goose-shat-on, Top Flight XL that DM found on the golf course?!?!?!? :p
You're ahead of the thousands of people who didn't post any scores.
 
heres mine:

8' Diamond 4 1/2 corners 5 1/4 sides
Set1: 10, 14, 5, 10, 10, 18, 8, 3, 9, 13 = 100
Set2: 8, 18, 11, 20, 14, 18, 16, 12, 14, 9 = 140
Set3: 12, 17, 10, 9, 20, 18, 20, 12, 14, 12 = 144
Set4: 19, 17, 12, 10, 13, 14, 18, 16, 17, 9 = 145
Set5: 14, 19, 15, 14, 12, 9, 18, 12, 14, 13 = 140

Average: 13.38
Total: 669

I had such a bad break first set. Normally i like using a soft tip for full rack breaks, but i just wasnt getting good breaks from the head spot. So after that first set i decided to switch to a phenolic tip and my breaks got much better. Well, less control on the cue ball, but much better scatters and more balls were pocketed.

i'm happy with my score. Actually, i did much better than what i expected. Of course, my score might not be so high if i were on a 9' table like i planned on.
 
1=8+4+2+2+5+10+3+3+3+3=43
2=7+2+5+12+4+10+4+9+3+3=59+43=102
3=8+9+3+10+12+1+10+4+10+10=77+102=179
4=3+10+18+7+9+8+4+9+7+1=76+179=255
5=4+5+11+7+2+6+4+5+3+5=52+255=307

Not at all trying to make excuses, I guess that puts me as a C player by the chart, but how does that score look honestly for someone who has been playing 1 year and 2 months?

LWW
 
Shot three sessions tonight, no warm ups.

Did terrible, which is what I get for not shooting a bit before just jumping in...expect to do much much better on the next two sessions. Also, played it on a 7 footer which is probably a mistake, lots and lots of balls tied up. Alas though thats not really a bad thing for something like this as it gets me thinking.


Scores are
9+8+0+8+8+9+9+0+0+8=59 :mad:
10+19+8+10+0+3+0+4+0+3=57 :mad:
9+7+6+6+18+12+10+9+2+0+=79 :(
 
I have a 7' Valley table, so this isn't really fair in my opinion. But the first time I tried this here is the score.
20,20,20,20,20,20,20,16,20,20=196
20,9,20,14,20,20,20,20,18,20=181
 
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Scoring Spread v. Skill Level: A Theory

I was reviewing my scores and those of all the rest of the gutty and brave souls participating in this DM Holiday bravery exhibition....

Let me warn you now, this is going to get a little geek-like :rolleyes: , but there's this theory I have. If someone in the group is a statistician, please feel free to evaluate this theory for its validity. If it is valid, then a predictive model could be built...well, more on that concept later.

The Cardinal's Theory of Relative Consistency::D

When you first start playing, you will be consistent - consistently bad; all your racks will be close together in scores of 0,1,2,3,4, or 5. You just cannot shoot well enough to score above a few balls consecutively.

As you improve, your scores will become inconsistant...the consistency will evaporate because - on occaision - you can string together a few balls, and get a higher score, maybe even in the double digits - so the "spread" of your scores will be greater. This will last a long time as you progress.

As you further improve, the consistency of your scores will further decline as you gain the (shooting and positioning) skills necessary to run out from time to time - so you'll have the occasional 18 or 20 on a rack, but, just as often you'll have a 0,1, or a 2...and pretty much everything in-between. As a middling player, the dispersion of scores would be the greatest around both sides of the mean value....

You improve some more, and the incidence of 0,1,2 scores starts to decline, so the dispersion is actually starting to narrow - you are getting more consistent. Mentally though, you are probably starting to get really distressed about these low scores "ruining" your average / total score. I kind of think many of us are in this phase in this tournament (from "Advanced" to "Semi Pro" levels). I am for sure. I feel that I ought to knock off at least 10 balls every rack - but I don't really, I average 10 - and I do get some 20s - so that means I gotta have some zero to 7 scores too (and, yeah I do, including that one damn 00 which really pissed me off :mad: until I realized a minus 1 was possible! ;) ).

At the higher regions of skill (where I am not, but aspire to be), say averaging 15 per rack, the consistency of scores starts to come together again; but now the spread is tight around a high level. The low end of scores has come up - players of this caliber just don't score below 5; if they do its a real unusual occurance, an outlyer.

And, then at the nirvana levels, the consistency is super tight around the mean again (as it was for the beginner), but of course around a very high average like 18.

So what? So, for the most of us toiling in the 7 to 14 average per rack range, you should expect a certain number of very low scores - and you'll also have some 18's & 20's - that's how you average in this range. There's no real reason to be upset that you are inconsistant. You are, by definition. :o

And, now, that would make me think I could potentially spot a dissembler...
Consider these two outcomes:
14, 04, 06, 20, 00, 14, 12, 14, 06, 10 = 100
10, 09, 09, 11, 12, 10, 09, 08, 12, 10 = 100
The first set of 10 racks is, I think, pretty legit; players good enough to average 10 are - by definition - good enough to run out every so often, but not good enough to avoid dreadfully low scores either. :cool:

The second set of scores is just too consistent around the mean average of 10 - nothing lower than an 8, nothing higher than a 12. If you are good enough to average 10, well then every once in a while you ought to be able to score high in the teens! Put another way - if you are good enough to avoid ever scoring below 5 or 6, then you are definitely good enough to run out every so often.

I conclude the second set of scores are suspicious, and probably come from someone who is jiving. :(

Any statistics mavens out there could use the scores from this year to test my theory; quantify the expected variances vs averages, build the model....
 
satman said:
I have a 7' Valley table, so this isn't really fair in my opinion. But the first time I tried this here is the score.
20,20,20,20,20,20,20,16,20,20=196

WOW, nyce shooting. On league nights we play on a 7 footer valley table and man it is very hard for me to get a good break on them as there is always clusters,. And like DougT mention'd Keep going man. Cole.
 
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satman said:
I have a 7' Valley table, so this isn't really fair in my opinion. But the first time I tried this here is the score.
20,20,20,20,20,20,20,16,20,20=196
Satman, thats a lot of 20's on any table. Keep going, finish out the full set. Let's see how you hold up, good luck!
 
DougT said:
Satman, thats a lot of 20's on any table. Keep going, finish out the full set. Let's see how you hold up, good luck!

Great score! Like you said more clusters on a 7 foot (ya big cheat, just kidding ;-)

I find it helps if you plan ahead, my first set I got down to my last ball and forgot I had to play them in order lol! :rolleyes:

The best method IMO is to leave 5 balls as close to a seperate pocket as possible.
 
There's the key! Planning

TheOne said:
Great score! Like you said more clusters on a 7 foot (ya big cheat, just kidding ;-)

I find it helps if you plan ahead, my first set I got down to my last ball and forgot I had to play them in order lol! :rolleyes:

The best method IMO is to leave 5 balls as close to a seperate pocket as possible.
I play a lot of 8 and 9 ball on the bar tables. When there are clusters at the beginning, you need to break them up and about 3 balls ahead of your last 5, start planning your runout. The one game I got out of line and came up way short on shape. We'll see what happens with the next couple of sets. Like I said, this would be a little harder or a good 9' table. Sam
 
satman said:
I play a lot of 8 and 9 ball on the bar tables. When there are clusters at the beginning, you need to break them up and about 3 balls ahead of your last 5, start planning your runout. The one game I got out of line and came up way short on shape. We'll see what happens with the next couple of sets. Like I said, this would be a little harder or a good 9' table. Sam

You're way too modest Sam.
I have a feeling the scores wouldn't be that much different.

Keep it going,
Koop
 
Playing on 9 ft GCII. 4 1/2 n corner pockets.

6 8 7 9 3 8 9 8 7 8 = 73
6 9 8 7 12 12 7 9 6 7 = 83
7 6 9 9 8 8 9 10 8 6 = 80
6 7 9 9 7 9 10 11 9 10 = 87
7 12 9 6 8 7 10 8 7 9 = 83

Total = 406

Can't say I'm unhapy was hoping for something over 350 and did that.
 
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Hal said:
So you procastinate until later in the rack to break up your clusters?? Wow...
Get the clusters out early. While you have plenty of balls on the table. Less likely to get no shot after. I also look for those balls close to the hole that may block another ball from going. When I get down to 8 balls left on the table, I start planning the rotation part. Sorry, I didn't explain well enough. If you leave the clusters and balls on the end rails for last, You're asking for trouble. Good luck, Sam
 
MarkW said:
Playing on 9 ft GCII. 4 1/2 n corner pockets.

6 8 7 9 3 8 9 8 7 8 = 73
6 9 8 7 12 12 7 9 6 7 = 83
7 6 9 9 8 8 9 10 8 6 = 80
6 7 9 9 7 9 10 11 9 10 = 87
7 12 9 6 8 7 10 8 7 9 = 83

Total = 406

Can't say I'm unhapy was hoping for something over 350 and did that.

Nice job then and welcome aboard.
 
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