Old Man Cheated

Sounds familiar to me.... This is the stuff that goes on all the time. Little people just need to win at any cost.
 
I still don't think Megan handled it correctly, but you are really coming off as a total POS.

First you lie to us about the guy being Megan's BF.

Now you will only say he was drunk, which never came up before.

We also hear that you weren't there...how do you know G was drunk?

Your father-in-law was, perhaps, wronged...a bit. This wasn't a huge malfeasance (look it up, your time will better spent learning a new word than pushing your case here).

Megan, if you are still reading, thank-you for being articulate enough to actually read your posts. Crap happens, you seem to be taking this with grace. I don't really agree with ever replaying a match, but understand that things happen and decisions need to be made. Keep running the tourneys, I expect you have more fans than detractors.

dld

I expected as much from you . Do I follow Gatlin and Megan around ... No
When people say someone is seeing/dating someone do you question them ? I don't . I had 3 different people tell the exact same story and Gatlin was drunk. Did they deny this.. No
And if you read the thread you would see its been brought up over and over
POS??? Really
The old man was wronged and I told exactly what happened and that's the truth of it
 
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I expected as much from you . Do I follow Gatlin and Megan around ... No
When people say someone is seeing/dating someone do you question them ? I don't . I had 3 different people tell the exact same story and Gatlin was drunk. Did they deny this.. No
And if you read the thread you would see its been brought up over and over
POS??? Really
The old man was wronged and I told exactly what happened and that's the truth of it

You are definitely entitled to share your thoughts on what happened. Being emotionally involved in a situation such as this is difficult.

Trust me, though, when I say that there will always--I repeat "always"--going to be members on this forum whose condemnation of others is to them an art form. In other words, no matter what you write, it will be slammed; the more you write, the harder the slam.

I'm sorry your father-in-law had a bad experience. :(

As far as Megan, the tournament director, I have been in her spot before, and one thing I can tell you about running pool tournaments that's a sure thing, you will never--I repeat "never"--satisfy everyone. People will argue about the rules. Competitors will get pissed off because of the wait time between matches. The pool room owner will apply pressure if he's losing table time. You are not going to please everybody, and you may stumble in trying to get the tournament done. TDs are human, after all. You do the best you can, and the only compensation you may receive is a pat on the back, if you're lucky.

Anyway, I feel bad for both parties, but I feel double-bad for pettypooldude. I'll bet you wish you hadn't started this thread now. It's definitely okay that you did, but now you are experiencing the wrath of AzBilliards keyboard cowboys and cowgirls. ;)
 
Well, after saying my side of the facts and Megans also, it doesnt matter anymore. The damage is done! That'll be the last tournament and maybe the doors will close to the only poolhall left in Myrtle Beach. You did your job Petey. Sure, both parties were at fault, Megan for replaying the match and believing the old man was a 3 and not starting him as an unknown 5 and Petey for coming on here and blasting someone with lies and you weren't even there. Before the Calcutta, Megan had a players meeting stating up front that anyone cuaght manipulating there true handicap, would be forfeited or the match played over. He had the chance then to pull out and get a refund. As I cleary stated, there was wrong doing on both parts but Petey you come on here to hurt someone and a business but, Megan never did anything to hurt him. This could have been handled privatly. The only sore players in that poolhall was your buddies, everyone else (67 players) had a great time and complemented her on a great tournament.
You guys always come in there once a month and want everything for free, free food, drink and I hook you up best I can. You try and get the tournament money and split til the next one and never come in to support the hall. That's why its so hard to pay the bills and poolhalls are fading hard.
Well, if there is even anotjer tournament held after this I'm sure Megan has learned quite a bit from this and your comments. Sorry you guys got dragged into this whole thing. Ron

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Hope that doesn't happen. Everyone I know tells me it's a 1st rate joint.
 
I always thought the BCA was a league for players with a decent skill level but if a blind old man who can't play a lick is a BCA 8 then the BCA is vastly overrated.
 
Hey, about 7 or 8 years ago, a lady I know from my area shut down Champions in Silver Sping and moved to Myrtle Beach. She said she was going to open a pool room. Her name is Joan. Has anybody run into a pool room owner named Joan?
 
Hey, about 7 or 8 years ago, a lady I know from my area shut down Champions in Silver Sping and moved to Myrtle Beach. She said she was going to open a pool room. Her name is Joan. Has anybody run into a pool room owner named Joan?

I think she relocated to the town of Arc :thumbup:!!!

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I expected as much from you . Do I follow Gatlin and Megan around ... No
When people say someone is seeing/dating someone do you question them ? I don't . I had 3 different people tell the exact same story and Gatlin was drunk. Did they deny this.. No
And if you read the thread you would see its been brought up over and over
POS??? Really
The old man was wronged and I told exactly what happened and that's the truth of it

Am I the only one that finds it odd that you continue to refer to YOUR FATHER IN-LAW as the "old man"? Sort of like you don't even know who he is. It's quite strange. Is that what you call him when you are gathered around the dinner table? "Hey old man, pass the gravy....and hurry up I don't want my turkey getting cold!"

I find it a bit odd.

After following this saga from the beginning, I may have been wrong about thinking he was trying to fly in under the radar. What I do think though, is the time to complain about how the TD handled this situation was when the decision was made. It doesn't sound like that's what happened. If he had won the rematch, I wonder if you would have been as outraged???

I sort of like the idea of a TD reserving the right to replay a match if a player is really under handicapped. A better idea though is to just forfeit someone that has been dishonest about his speed (not sure that's what happened here though). I guess the only situation I can envision where a replay would be a good idea would be if an honest player came in and after speaking with the TD, they came up with a handicap, then he played his best, and was clearly much better in comparison to the field than they originally thought. In this situation, I think a replay would be a possible solution. This would have to happen in the first couple of rounds though. I can't think of any other reason why a match would be replayed.
 
I've got some other players that were there joining AZ so they can post
They read what I posted and said its exactly how it happened.
The first match with Gatlin went 7 to 5 with Gatlin missing everything
The rematch against a sober Gatlin went 7 to 1
Believe what you want but I posted the truth
The old mans never even placed at one of their tournament
Usually 2 and out
 
Am I the only one that finds it odd that you continue to refer to YOUR FATHER IN-LAW as the "old man"? Sort of like you don't even know who he is. It's quite strange. Is that what you call him when you are gathered around the dinner table? "Hey old man, pass the gravy....and hurry up I don't want my turkey getting cold!"

I find it a bit odd.

After following this saga from the beginning, I may have been wrong about thinking he was trying to fly in under the radar. What I do think though, is the time to complain about how the TD handled this situation was when the decision was made. It doesn't sound like that's what happened. If he had won the rematch, I wonder if you would have been as outraged???

I sort of like the idea of a TD reserving the right to replay a match if a player is really under handicapped. A better idea though is to just forfeit someone that has been dishonest about his speed (not sure that's what happened here though). I guess the only situation I can envision where a replay would be a good idea would be if an honest player came in and after speaking with the TD, they came up with a handicap, then he played his best, and was clearly much better in comparison to the field than they originally thought. In this situation, I think a replay would be a possible solution. This would have to happen in the first couple of rounds though. I can't think of any other reason why a match would be replayed.

Everyone calls the old man "goodgi"
I figured his name would cause distraction lol
 
First, I'm happy I lived up to your expectations.

Second, I don't necessarily question whether people are sleeping together, but I also don't spread it around.

Reread my post, I didn't say you were a POS, I have no way of knowing, but your attitude in this thread is very POS-like.

You didn't tell it EXACTLY like it happened. You weren't there, so it is impossible to tell it EXACTLY like it happened. The very fact that you claim to be telling it EXACTLY like it happened makes me think of something I learned a long time ago: The least honest people are those who say they don't ever lie.

dld

Well DD when I posted the thread I was furious. I had people calling me from the tournament telling me they were doing him bad. 3 people called me, all telling me the same exact thing as they have called this morning also
You know I'm not that great with vocabulary and even proper grammar in most cases. So I could easily be guilty of not making total sense all the time
I didn't play because of the handicapping but I wasn't trying to slam the whole tournament just what happened with my father in law
 
My original post in this thread is accurate. People can believe what they choose. If anything is inaccurate it's that Megan and Gatlin aren't a couple I guess people just assume they are. They may be and not want it told idk
I re-read it just a minute ago and stand by what I posted . Cuesddicts thanks for my 1st red rep for not telling the whole story supposedly. If I got anything wrong it was the BF/GF thing.
I have never got ANYTHING free other than a refill of Coke
Why tell that lie Ron. I appreciate it. Will I split the finals.. Bet your a$$ I wil
 
This thing flew past stupid a long time ago.
I'd like to start by stating how much the players in my area would welcome a hall that hosted a tournament like this with open arms. Every hall we had closed their doors in the last ten years.
When I used to play up near Chicago I'd only be able to make a couple times per year to each place. Since I'm not a regular at those places, and an unknown, I ALWAYS had to play at the highest handicap they had. I never placed because that was a little too high for my abilities. However, I understood why they did it. They don't know my game enough to rate me properly and want to protect their locals who keep them open from an outsider breezing in to steal the purse. If I could have made it to a few of their big tourneys each year they would have been able to rate me correctly.
Sure, I don't like the idea of replaying a match the next day but I don't hate anyone for doing what they thought was fair given their limited options the next day. I certainly wouldn't have started a thread like this. If it was handled with more class maybe something could have been worked out for the next one. Now the bridge has been burned and an endangered species known as a pool hall received bad publicity. Drop it man they didn't steal the US Open title from anyone, they just handled a difficult situation somewhat poorly. Sorry your father in law didn't snap off the tourney.
 
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This thing flew past stupid a long time ago.
I'd like to start by stating how much the players in my area would welcome a hall that hosted a tournament like this with open arms. Every hall we had closed their doors in the last ten years.
When I used to play up near Chicago I'd only be able to make a couple times per year to each place. Since I'm not a regular at those places, and an unknown, I ALWAYS had to play at the highest handicap they had. I never placed because that was a little too high for my abilities. However, I understood why they did it. They don't know my game enough to rate me properly and want to protect their locals who keep them open from an outsider breezing in to steal the purse. If I could have made it to a few of their big tourneys each year they would have been able to rate me correctly.
Sure, I don't like the idea of replaying a match the next day but I don't hate anyone for doing what they thought was fair given their limited options the next day. I certainly wouldn't have started a thread like this. If it was handled with more class maybe something could have been worked out for the next one. Now the bridge has been burned and an endangered species known as a pool hall received bad publicity. Drop it man they didn't steal the US Open title from anyone, they just handled a difficult situation somewhat poorly. Sorry your father in law didn't snap off the tourney.

Well I don't see how posting what happened as wrong. What pisses me off is the way they responded. My FIL is a 4 at best . I weren't trying to hurt the poolroom . If I wanted to do that I would have told a whole different story and nothing to do with this tournament . They came on here claiming he mis represented himself when he in fact did not. Gatlin had him beat as a 3 and couldn't get out because he was drunk. First match went 7-5. Pretty close i think.Next day rematch Gatlin beats him 7-1
To say I'm there getting free food and such was a lie. How would you respond to that. Notice they don't post when I'm on here .
 
Can't believe after all the truth is out people still have the nerve to say she's "shady" or in the wrong.

Of COURSE you replay the match. If he was asked if he played in any leagues,
and conveniently 'forgot' he's a BCA 8, he flat out lied to get free games on the wire!
No way to prove it at this point, but if that's how it went down, giving him a second
chance way too generous, he should just be banned, and his opponents move up the ladder.

I don't understand this mindset... "oh well, too bad for the opponent, but the match was played, and the TD was too trusting"
...why is an already played match considered sacred and untouchable?
It's a local handicapped tournament, not the US Open.

I simply can't give an overall of opinion of right and wrong here because I was not there. However, i don't see how you can replay the match in question, but not allow the 3 that was originally beaten by him also have a rematch. Their is no fair in this situation. You bump him up and move on, or if you think he flat out lied to you, you disqualify him. I get the point of him being ranked higher due to his BCA ranking, however, in this tournament, until this point, he has lost a match, beaten a 3 (which could be by any score due to the inconsistencies of a 3's game) and beaten one other player. I think it is pretty hard to ascertain a player's level by this point, unless he is running out all over. Many things can account fo rthe scores listed here in that short a period of time. I'm probably a "c" player, but have run multiple racks of 9 ball on many occassions. It is not my norm though, and those occassions don't represent my overall ability. Being an 8/10 could be due to him being in a weak league.

Sounds like a tough situation. Ultimately, as long as the TD has their rules available to all, and is consistent with them, it is their call to make.
 
Megan said they pulled last sessions stats to find his rating, petey said it was part of a session years ago... wouldn't the system show how many matches the FIL has played in the BCA?
 
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Megan said they pulled last sessions stats to find his rating, petey said it was part of a session years ago... wouldn't the system show how many matches the FIL has played in the BCA?

I'm not sure but think it was in 2010 or 2009 when he played. The teams were weekly drinkers and we played him on nights we played the weakest teams. Besides they didn't need to look at BCA record because they know him well. He beat Gatlin 7-5 with Gatlin being sh1t faced
Thats a close match. The rematch went 7-1
Gooch was already in the losers bracket
 
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