packages by Earl Strickland

wayne said:
I don't think you got jumped on for not gawking over a pro but for making idiot comments that were not called for.
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Can you understand regualr english? Grammer? I made no so called "idiot" comments. I simply said that I would rather take Scott Lee over Earl, how in the hell is that comment uncalled for or idotic?!? Man, I swear some people on this forum are dumb as rocks. Maybe you should try reading a book instead of spending all your time knocking me off....
 
8-Ball Player said:
Can you understand regualr english? Grammer? I made no so called "idiot" comments. I simply said that I would rather take Scott Lee over Earl, how in the hell is that comment uncalled for or idotic?!? Man, I swear some people on this forum are dumb as rocks. Maybe you should try reading a book instead of spending all your time knocking me off....
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Maybe you are being a bit sensitive here 8-ball dude :D :D :D


BTW, I'm sure for sure that Earl is a great teacher, and that 75€/hr is a BARGAIN!
 
8-Ball Player said:
Can you understand regualr english? Grammer? I made no so called "idiot" comments. I simply said that I would rather take Scott Lee over Earl, how in the hell is that comment uncalled for or idotic?!? Man, I swear some people on this forum are dumb as rocks. Maybe you should try reading a book instead of spending all your time knocking me off....
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8-Ball Player said:
75 bucks an hour is a little too much for me. I would rather get some lessons from Scott Lee, he sounds pretty good. But then again, I dont really know the differece between the two, other than Earl complains a lot.
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If the only difference you can see between a World Champion and a good teacher is that "Earl complains a lot" I would say that is an "IDIOT" comment. Maybe you are the one that is "dumb as a rock" if you can't even remember your "IDIOT" comment.
 
I think its the competion that brings out the worsed in Earl, like Ralf and the other elite players they just HATE to lose. As I've always said Earl seems like a pretty nice and funny guy away from the table, I imagine in a one on one enviroment he'd be superb and $75 would indeed be good value.
 
Lightning Rod

jay helfert said:
I find it interesting that Earl can operate so well in a one on one situation. And yet lose all control when playing in a match. This tells me that Earl does have control of his emotions and it is not due to some chemical imbalance or other reason.

For this reason, Earl must be held accountable for his actions when he is playing in a tournament. No excuses for his misbehavior as far as I'm concerned.

I think the world of Mike Gulyassy and think it is great for him to try to get Earl back on track. This is not meant in any way to be offensive to Mike. I am just trying to make a point.

I know this will get back to Earl, so you can go ahead and tell him what I said Mike. I would say it to his face as well. And he knows it. Get your act together buddy! And quit acting like a goofball when you play! You may actually play better and have better results.
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Jay, I would like to add a little something to what you said. I agree that Earl should be held responsible for his actions.

I also believe that tournament directors need to do their job and control the fans and the opponents of Earl Strickland. Earl has been a lightning rod for quite some time, drawing some of the most despicable pool fans one can find. I'm talking about those that go to Earl's table and hope to set him off for s**ts and grins.

Since Earl draws the people like a moth to a flame, don't you think that the tournament directors need to do a better job watching his matches and making an example of the trouble makers.?

This should be done for all matches not just Earl's, but since Earl pulls these kinds of people out of the air, I hope you agree that tournament directors need to do more to control the antagonists.

JoeyA
 
JoeyA said:
Jay, I would like to add a little something to what you said. I agree that Earl should be held responsible for his actions.

I also believe that tournament directors need to do their job and control the fans and the opponents of Earl Strickland. Earl has been a lightning rod for quite some time, drawing some of the most despicable pool fans one can find. I'm talking about those that go to Earl's table and hope to set him off for s**ts and grins.

Since Earl draws the people like a moth to a flame, don't you think that the tournament directors need to do a better job watching his matches and making an example of the trouble makers.?

This should be done for all matches not just Earl's, but since Earl pulls these kinds of people out of the air, I hope you agree that tournament directors need to do more to control the antagonists.

JoeyA
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Amen I say to that.Mike
 
hey mike is there any chance earl would travel or be in the charlotte or greensboro area for 3 or 4 hours of lessons?
 
I'm sure many Tournament Directors have time to babysit one player through all of his matches.

Stones
 
Dear Lord.
Can anyone advertise here without getting bombarded with opinions?
If aren't going or buying, do we really need to read your 2 cents?
 
8-Ball Player said:
Whoa, don't jump on me just yet. I had no idea how much Scott Lee charged and I did'nt know the current rates of teachers. I don't have that kind of money just to get a good pool player in my house that may not even know how to teach. Sorry but I dont gawk over pro's like everyone else, so calm down and get off my back.
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I don't think anyone jumped on you; however, you were the one saying you would rather have Scott Lee than Earl because of Earl's rates, which indicated you thought Earl's rates were very high.

Unfortunately, you didn't know that Scott Lee's rates were very similar to Earl's.
 
strongly agree

Joey,

I strongly agree. It is true that Earl bears a major portion of the responsibility but now people are goading him just for their own entertainment. Any TD should be aware of this and make some efforts to see that it doesn't happen or if it does happen that it is dealt with quickly and appropriately. If this means dedicating a ref or assistant TD to Earl's matches for awhile that isn't too much to ask to get the situation in hand.

It isn't just Earl with egg on his face when these things get out of control. It reflects poorly on the TD, the people putting on the event, the venue, and even to some degree the sponsors. It reflects poorly on all pool fans too, fairly or not. It is in the interest of everyone who wants to see the advancement of pool for this silliness to end.

Hu




JoeyA said:
Jay, I would like to add a little something to what you said. I agree that Earl should be held responsible for his actions.

I also believe that tournament directors need to do their job and control the fans and the opponents of Earl Strickland. Earl has been a lightning rod for quite some time, drawing some of the most despicable pool fans one can find. I'm talking about those that go to Earl's table and hope to set him off for s**ts and grins.

Since Earl draws the people like a moth to a flame, don't you think that the tournament directors need to do a better job watching his matches and making an example of the trouble makers.?

This should be done for all matches not just Earl's, but since Earl pulls these kinds of people out of the air, I hope you agree that tournament directors need to do more to control the antagonists.

JoeyA
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Since my name is being bandied about here, along with Earl's, I'll put in my two cents. FWIW, if you don't have a GREAT set up and delivery system for your cuestick (read: accurate, repeatable and sustainable stroke) already in place, then all the lessons in the world from the best pros on Earth will not help you all that much. That said, I believe that getting lessons from Earl would be a BARGAIN at $75/hr. He could charge twice that much, and it would STILL be a bargain! His knowledge of how to PLAY is unsurpassed, and I'm sure that a good player would definitely have the opportunity to gain some insights into becoming a much better player.

I will say this...when pro players come to instructors like Randy and myself they are looking for quirks in their stroke...not for knowledge of how to play better position or learn better patterns. Can we teach advanced players better shot selection, strategy, pattern play, and advanced techniques like jumps, banks and multiple rail kicks? Yes...but most advanced players still need work on their stroke. Are we "better" at that then Earl? I would say it depends a lot on the student. I personally believe someone who is serious about improving their pool game should take lessons from as many competent "teachers" (read: some pro players too) as they have the time and money to access. I know Earl personally, and I think I'd love lessons with him myself, and plan to take advantage of this the next time I'm down in SC! Great teachers continue learning from everyone they can! One more thing...this can only make Earl an even BETTER pro player, and I hope he makes a comeback and wins more world championships! I'll be cheering him on all the way!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
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Wasn't it Fleece who recently posted about taking a lesson with Earl & posted a Youtube clip of that lesson? I'll have to do a search & confirm it.

I think $75 per hour is well worth the price just to get some of Earl's thoughts on the game. I'm sure it'd be a great experience.
 
well said

Scott,

I think you and Earl both bring a lot to the table. I also think that which of you is best for a person depends purely on where the person's game is at, at the moment. Seventy-five dollars an hour is quite a deal for lessons from either of you but kindly forget I said that when I come chasing lessons!

Hu



Scott Lee said:
Since my name is being bandied about here, along with Earl's, I'll put in my two cents. FWIW, if you don't have a GREAT set up and delivery system for your cuestick (read: accurate, repeatable and sustainable stroke) already in place, then all the lessons in the world from the best pros on Earth will not help you all that much. That said, I believe that getting lessons from Earl would be a BARGAIN at $75/hr. He could charge twice that much, and it would STILL be a bargain! His knowledge of how to PLAY is unsurpassed, and I'm sure that a good player would definitely have the opportunity to gain some insights into becoming a much better player.

I will say this...when pro players come to instructors like Randy and myself they are looking for quirks in their stroke...not for knowledge of how to play better position or learn better patterns. Can we teach advanced players better shot selection, strategy, pattern play, and advanced techniques like jumps, banks and multiple rail kicks? Yes...but most advanced players still need work on their stroke. Are we "better" at that then Earl? I would say it depends a lot on the student. I personally believe someone who is serious about improving their pool game should take lessons from as many competent "teachers" (read: some pro players too) as they have the time and money to access. I know Earl personally, and I think I'd love lessons with him myself, and plan to take advantage of this the next time I'm down in SC! Great teachers continue learning from everyone they can! One more thing...this can only make Earl an even BETTER pro player, and I hope he makes a comeback and wins more world championships! I'll be cheering him on all the way!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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Nut Jobs

No telling how many people got $1,000.00 lessons from Earl and didn't know it.
One of my buddies got a $500.00 lesson from Earl. Race to 7 with the 7! He had Earl 6 to 4 then Earl ran out the set for $500.00.This was many years before anyone knew about Earl. He was giving lessons but they cost by the game back then! And when Earl was done he had the money but you didn't have anything but empty pockets!
The lesson was don't play Earl!
If you want to learn to play like Earl you will never get a better oppertunity. I say you might want to get while the getting is good.
Lessons from Mike G probably wouldn't huut either. If you don't think you would benefit from Earl teaching you a thing or two I have to ask are you nuts?
I have to admit when Earl is done he might suggest you stick to golf!
But he is the man and nowhere in any other sport is there anything like a offer to be trained by a true master and long time established world champion as this offer allows.
No Where
Nick :)
 
JoeyA said:
Jay, I would like to add a little something to what you said. I agree that Earl should be held responsible for his actions.

I also believe that tournament directors need to do their job and control the fans and the opponents of Earl Strickland. Earl has been a lightning rod for quite some time, drawing some of the most despicable pool fans one can find. I'm talking about those that go to Earl's table and hope to set him off for s**ts and grins.

Since Earl draws the people like a moth to a flame, don't you think that the tournament directors need to do a better job watching his matches and making an example of the trouble makers.?

This should be done for all matches not just Earl's, but since Earl pulls these kinds of people out of the air, I hope you agree that tournament directors need to do more to control the antagonists.

JoeyA
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I've ALWAYS felt that it was the job of the Tournament Director to keep order at the tournament. This includes players, fans, backers, vendors etc. etc.

Joey, I can only speak from personal experience, but I can not remember any tournament I ever worked where there wasn't some type of testy situation to deal with. It may have been a verbal fight between players that threatened to escalate, or it could have been over eager fans a little too vociferous in support of one player (and against their opponent).

I have seen loud arguments over seating, with waitresses, with tourney officials, and have even seen a few punches thrown. And we have dealt with all of them, got things straightened out, and allowed the tournament to continue.

I can even remember a few incidents where Earl was involved and we got it handled then as well. The last time being a ruckus at the 1999 U. S. Open about racking the balls. I racked them once and showed both players the rack and told them I wasn't coming back, and didn't want to hear any more noise about bad racks. Earl was one of the two players. And guess what, they played the match out without any further problems.

That is why I am constantly dismayed when I hear about the latest Earl incident. How a T.D. has allowed it to escalate to this point is beyond me.
I am not going to name names, but someone has fallen down on the job. You MUST be a little iron fisted to be a good T.D. And that's the name of that tune.

Sleeping on the job and not paying attention to the matches is a major fault on the part of a T.D. If the shoe fits, wear it.
 
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jay helfert said:
I've ALWAYS felt that it was the job of the Tournament Director to keep order at the tournament. This includes players, fans, backers, vendors etc. etc.

Joey, I can only speak from personal experience, but I can not remember any tournament I ever worked where there wasn't some type of testy situation to deal with. It may have been a verbal fight between players that threatened to escalate, or it could have been over eager fans a little too vociferous in support of one player (and against their opponent).

I have seen loud arguments over seating, with waitresses, with tourney officials, and have even seen a few punches thrown. And we have dealt with all of them, got things straightened out, and allowed the tournament to continue.

I can even remember a few incidents where Earl was involved and we got it handled then as well. The last time being a ruckus at the 1999 U. S. Open about racking the balls. I racked them once and showed both players the rack and told them I wasn't coming back, and didn't want to hear any more noise about bad racks. Earl was one of the two players. And guess what, they played the match out without any further problems.

That is why I am constantly dismayed when I hear about the latest Earl incident. How a T.D. has allowed it to escalate to this point is beyond me.
I am not going to name names, but someone has fallen down on the job. You MUST be a little iron fisted to be a good T.D. And that's the name of that tune.

Sleeping on the job and not paying attention to the matches is a major fault on the part of a T.D. If the shoe fits, wear it.
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Jay, you continue to impress me. Sometimes your candor on the forum and in person can set one back on their heels but it is apparent that your "Let the chips fall where they may" attitude will endear many readers in your forthcoming book, including myself.

Is there a new timeline associated with its expected completion?
JoeyA
 
jay helfert said:
Sleeping on the job and not paying attention to the matches is a major fault on the part of a T.D. If the shoe fits, wear it.
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rotflmfao because I have had to physically shake awake a well known TD on numerous occasions... lol
 
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