Pictures of Ernie Gutierrez's (Ginacue) shop

Hey Justin
Maybe when I start to sell some cues in the class of what Ernie makes I will buy this motorcycle comes standard with a turbine helicopter motor that is like 320 horse power with an option to go up to 400-450 horse. It is the fastest street bike in the world Jay Leno has one. There are a lot of cue makers that ride if I remember right the guys from AE cues have a couple Hayabusa that are bored and stroked to make like 250 horse on a bike that weighs under 600 lb. Jim Buss has a nice Harley he rides everywhere even has a trailer to take cues to shows.

http://www.marineturbine.com/motorcycles.asp
 
Amazing video!!! I had never thought to see a video of Ernie and I second the idea of getting the other {if there are any;)} masters on video before they retire completely. Tad Kohara and Bill Stroud, at least.
 
Hey Justin, did Teddy show you his "baby photo," freakin hilarious... He's got more jokes than anybody I've ever known. Sweet video my friend.
 
yobagua said:
Thanks for the pic of the "too tight gang". As one of my lady friends said;"damn those shirts are snug!!". LOL!!! Just a little about the guys in the pic. Ernie of course you know.
Teddy the guy in front is a creative guy and architecht in his own right and very articulate. Teddy is Ernie's good budy and motorcycle riding partner. He also used to own Players. The toughest Action spot in Los Angeles where all the monsters used to get in action. Jean Robert Bellande (Tall Bobby) was always there holding court gambling with the best. Efren was there, SHannon, any body who came to LA came to Players. THis is where Santos gave Jennifer Chen the 6,7,8, and the breaks and drilled her. (on tape by JJ). Some great memorable action games at this missed spot.

JJ, the tall man in the back is a monster. First he used to do hair back in Philly. He did Nat King Cole, Sarah Vaughn, Dinah Washington, Screamin' Jay Hawkins (I am so not worthy), etc. hair. He fell in love with pool and , Freddy you should remember him from the Ye Billiard Den days, when he played all the champions in one pocket. He then began being the first vidoeographer of great matches. He first did the LA Open in the 90's where every great player played. Banks, Nine Ball, One pocket. He's got Jersey Red, Hawaiian Brian, Mark Tadd, as well as the champions of the day. Some of the stuff he's got are Mike Sigel in an all around with Efren (9 ball, Banks, and one pocket), Cecil Tugwell vs Keith McCready, Alex Pagulayan vs Francisco Bustamante (one pocket) where Francisco didnt know how to play the game except for his 8 and out technique and ran 17 balls and out. He has the greatest collection of money games bar none.
The Asian guy is a fan.
Where else but in pool could you get a Black, a Latino, a Jew, a Asian, and a brilliant young man from the midwest all together in a room talking about the thing they love. To me this is what pool is all about. The friendships and the acquaintances that Ive made in pool rooms across this country and the online forums cannot be equaled to anything else.
PS I tried to get Tall Wayne who is a good friend of Ernies up there too but he had to work. Wayne is a Canadian from the cold parts and one of our top one hole players on the west coast. That would top off the combo.
Justin and Chad thanks so much for your hard work and effort. Next time youre out here we try for Tad. Maybe we can make a docu like a Michael Moore film; Hunting for Tad! Much Love for TAR!
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I never knew Teddy was owner of Players. I thought it was Feral (sp?)? That was a great pool room for a time. I was sorry to see it go.
 
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The entire world of pool is beholdin to TAR. You guys appear to have all the qualities needed to become pool icons. May ethics continue to supersede bucks.
 
Thanks

Thanks for the great pics..

Simply amazing to see the machines Ernie has.

Chad
 
Scott Lee said:
Anybody who would ride a motorcycle at 200+ mph is either completely insane, or wishing to die...jmo. All it would take is hitting a pebble on the track, and you're done...:rolleyes:

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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Sportbikes, especially racers, are way more stable than you think.

I have done 135mph+ on a sportbike (freeway) and 160mph in a car before. The only thing I was worried about with either was other drivers cutting me off.

I've ridden some of the canyons around here in the past, you hit something now and then, losing a little traction for a moment, but good tires grab right back on to the road.

I'll bet "poolhustler" has been doing his share of this lately :grin-square:
 
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CrownCityCorey said:
Sportbikes, especially racers, are way more stable than you think.

I have done 135mph+ on a sportbike (freeway) and 160mph in a car before. The only thing I was worried about with either was other drivers cutting me off.

I've ridden some of the canyons around here in the past, you hit something now and then, losing a little traction for a moment, but good tires grab right rack on to the road.

I'll bet "poolhustler" has been doing his share of this lately :grin-square:
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Yep.........on this bad boy!!

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FWIW, I have done 150-160 many times without any problems. On Sundays, its not uncommon for us to hit 120+ in the canyons.....:thumbup:

Teddy rides pretty sporty also!!

Russ......
 
That's a gorgeous shop and very impressive too !

Complete overkill just to build cues in my opinion but given the $$$ that equipment costs you can be sure he does NOT sell his custom cues starting at 350.00....

Very nice pics and thankyou very much for sharing... is always a pleasure to see photos of other cuemakers shops and in this particular case a "factory"


- Eddie Wheat
 
WheatCues said:
That's a gorgeous shop and very impressive too !

Complete overkill just to build cues in my opinion but given the $$$ that equipment costs you can be sure he does NOT sell his custom cues starting at 350.00....

Very nice pics and thankyou very much for sharing... is always a pleasure to see photos of other cuemakers shops and in this particular case a "factory"


- Eddie Wheat
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That'd be like betting Loveless does not make $350 knives.
http://www.lovelessknife.com/

Nice of you to call that a factory when one man works there. What the master has done was design machinery so he can build the perfect cue.
The "factory" takes one year between cuts on his shafts.
Bandido here has x-rays of Ginas. Of ALL the cues that have travelled in Asia that he has x-rayed, Ginas had the least expansion and shrinkage. Not bad for a "factory".
Those cnc machines he has, he built.
And without Ernie, custom cue market might not exist.
 
JoeyInCali said:
That'd be like betting Loveless does not make $350 knives.
http://www.lovelessknife.com/

Nice of you to call that a factory when one man works there. What the master has done was design machinery so he can build the perfect cue.
The "factory" takes one year between cuts on his shafts.
Bandido here has x-rays of Ginas. Of ALL the cues that have travelled in Asia that he has x-rayed, Ginas had the least expansion and shrinkage. Not bad for a "factory".
Those cnc machines he has, he built.
And without Ernie, custom cue market might not exist.
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I was using that term loosely !

It does look like a factory or a machine shop regardless of how many employees he has...

It's very impressive and I could spend a week in there just drooling over all the neat toys !!!

The post was sincere and shouldn't be taken any other way... so I feel that your grammer critiquement was warranted and thankyou for catching that before the "posse" decided exploit another one of my posts !


- Eddie Wheat
 
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WheatCues said:
I was using that term loosely !

It does look like a factory or a machine shop regardless of how many employees he has...

It's very impressive and I could spend a week in there just drooling over all the neat toys !!!

The post was sincere and shouldn't be taken any other way... so I feel that your grammer critiquement was warranted and thankyou for catching that before the "posse" decided exploit another one of my posts !


- Eddie Wheat
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I wasn't critiquing your grammar.
Tad has SEVENTEEN lathes.
Ernie's shop is worth a million dollars I heard.
Don't visit. IF you do, you might torch your garage when you get back.
That's what cuemakers say after visiting Ernie's shop.
That's a CUSTOM SHOP.
 
JoeyInCali said:
I wasn't critiquing your grammar.
Tad has SEVENTEEN lathes.
Ernie's shop is worth a million dollars I heard.
Don't visit. IF you do, you might torch your garage when you get back.
That's what cuemakers say after visiting Ernie's shop.
That's a CUSTOM SHOP.
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Well, I can definitely understand how inferior it could make you feel after having the luxury of touring his "shop" to put it mildly !


Take care, Eddie Wheat
 
WheatCues said:
That's a gorgeous shop and very impressive too !

Complete overkill just to build cues in my opinion but given the $$$ that equipment costs you can be sure he does NOT sell his custom cues starting at 350.00....

Very nice pics and thankyou very much for sharing... is always a pleasure to see photos of other cuemakers shops and in this particular case a "factory"


- Eddie Wheat
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Don't be a hater. "Overkill" "factory" ?
Its naptime eddie.
 
Balabushka said:
I'm amazed at the lack of sawdust.
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Ernie is a pretty "picky" guy, I was there last week and he was reworking a piece of the vacuum system that collects the sawdust from the CNC machine. He has that same vacuum system hooked up to every lathe, every sander, etc. There is very little sweeping goin' on.

As he alluded to in his interview, he is willing to spend hours or days designing and building things that save him a bit of time on the "rote" work. He'd rather design than sweep....:)

I have spend many, many hours in his shop and as impressive as the video is, it's only a glimpse....the jig he built for wrapping cues is a work of art, as are the finished wraps. He has an exotic pneumatic system that also runs throughout the entire shop, driving clamps, air guns, sprayers and misc. equipment here and there.

He's an engineering genius...... metal, wood, air, electricity...he really can "do it all" and he does it all....by himself.

I'm delighted to have him as a friend, he's as good a "guy" as he is a machinist/cuemaker.

Joe
 
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The wizard of OZ- Ginacue-Ernie

Great idea other than just matches. too bad he didn't show us how he made a few things.He did devluge a few secrets- the thought of forward balance cues, ebony fronts,the white and brown shafts,snakewood characterists. didn't like his comments on the players cues he so seldom makes. He could learn from Danny Janes and be less like Bill Stroud. Why is it all about the cash. I'd like to hear Paul Motteys side,Bill Schick's, and Richard blacks side. I would like to see Tad Kohara's shop, I think more famous for making players cues. Tad tips. Doesn't Andy Gilbert have a rep for players cues. Ernies own words 1 pro player- now thats a mouthfull. There are no secrets in cuemaking in this day and age. Thanks thanks and thanks a very nice custom shop. But like he said he's lazy and wants the machine to do all the work- I couldn't believe he compared himself to George B or Gus Szamboti- players cues. I couldn't help but laugh at how many times he wanted to scratch his nuts. did you guys catch all gunsmith tooling. mark
 
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