In a big event I always have at least 3 blind bids in the player auction. Usually the best players are taken
player says to calcutta bidder he will lay down
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In a big event I always have at least 3 blind bids in the player auction. Usually the best players are taken
I like this idea the best. :smile:
That very same thing happened this weekend in New Orleans.
I was the LAST PLAYER in the Calcutta as I showed up seconds before they closed the bidding so I doubt that it was the same tournament but anyway...
The interesting thing was, it was me saying I would lay down and lose if someone bought me other than myself. The owner of the pool room (not Buffalo Billiards) enjoys sticking me with the needle and running me up in the Calcutta to numbers far beyond anyone else , getting under my skin in any way that he can and he does it just for the fun of it. His constant needling sent me over the edge and as I continued to bid on myself he would milk the bidders with hyperbole reserved for world champions in long ahead sets, waiting and grinning with sheer delight that I was being bid up higher than any of the other players.
I got tired of his ways and started belting out some warnings to the other bidders. I said I would lay down and wouldn't try and I guess if a stranger who didn't know me, well they might believe it or maybe they would see that I was pretty steamed for being rail-roaded by the owner. The owner and I have a little "history" together and I don't care for some of his antics that have been reported in this forum and other forums but that's neither here nor there. The fact is anyone who knows me knows that I am far too competitive to lay down for anything. I don't dump and I don't lay down but a stranger might believe that I would.
The funny thing is I went for $65 in the Calcutta and one other person went for $40. The first place Calcutta money was $200. Third place paid $30 and that's what I earned for the day.
I think $100 went to second place. If you were one of the bidders, sorry you didn't know me better.
When I get steamed at someone who continues to give me the needle, I'm subject to launch a harpoon. :embarrassed2:
Best Regards,
JoeyA
I know that is the norm. What I'm talking about is after the top 3 blind bids are gone, every player who is in the calcutta must submit a blind bid for themselves. They are then removed only from their own auction. Besides being time consuming and a pain in the ass, I think it might work.
Is this to say that if they submit a blind bid on themselves, and no one else bids, they must pay the money?
The guy he was bidding on was the favorite to win....although he didn't win , he placed in top three...he had all of himself, my buddy stopped bidding after the conflict.... All the guy knew is he was the favorite.. I guess in his mind he wanted to buy someone that could get to the money...lol i guess we all do
Maybe...I don't know. Why not? Like I said, I haven't thought this through.
Did I miss it or did you say whether the player finished in the money? Hopefully your friend bid him up high before he quit, and the player then lost.
> I saw an incident similar to this at a tournament once.
The player in question was known for NEVER buying 1/2 himself in the calcutta,but WAS known for winning this particular tournament every month.
For whatever reason,he made mention of forfeiting out of the tournament,it seems like he had something come up,but maybe he just didn't feel good.
The guy that bought him walked up during the conversation and said this in complete deadpan seriousness in both expression and vocal tone.
"Go ahead,forfeit. Good luck finding 4 tires to fit that Porche here in Jonesboro (Ark) at 6:00 on a Saturday .....
" Tommy D.
The player in question was known for NEVER buying 1/2 himself in the calcutta,but WAS known for winning this particular tournament every month.
For whatever reason,he made mention of forfeiting out of the tournament,it seems like he had something come up,but maybe he just didn't feel good.
The guy that bought him walked up during the conversation and said this in complete deadpan seriousness in both expression and vocal tone.
"Go ahead,forfeit. Good luck finding 4 tires to fit that Porche here in Jonesboro (Ark) at 6:00 on a Saturday .....
" Tommy D.
Well. Forcing someone to bid on themselves when they don't want to is just flat out extortion.
ALSO, typically, the people running the calcutta take out 10% or more, and stick it in their pocket, for their efforts.
So if you have someone being forced to pay into a pot that they don't want any part of after they have paid their entry fee, it's wrong.
Secondly, if they are being forced to put money into a pot that someone takes a friggin percentage of, that is flat out criminal.
If i showed up to a tournament and the guy running it tried to pull that garbage with me, i would gladly crack my cue over their head.
What a load of bull$#!t THAT is.
It looks like you are talking about the same tournament I played in this weekend as I did come in 3rd.
Tell your friend to come back any time. I was a little steamed at the owner for his past and current jubiliatory remarks. If he thought I would have layed down, he would have done something about. He and I have had heated "discussions" for years.
Tell your friend to bid on me any time. I am a competitor and don't lay down for anyone in spite of what I said. Sorry he didn't know the horse he was bidding on. Have him introduce himself to me next time and we will discuss the situation in front of BOTH OWNERS.
I am a no-playing, hot-headed dog but I always try to win.
JoeyA
minimum bid
Around here the player usually is stuck buying himself for the minimum bid if nobody else bids on the player, no option. The minimum bid can be pretty low or pretty high depending on what the auctioneer thinks of a player. However, the players that start higher usually have a few bidders too so it works out.
One thing to note, there is no house cut of the calcutta in Louisiana, illegal gambling if they take a cut. At least that was the law last I knew.
Hu
Around here the player usually is stuck buying himself for the minimum bid if nobody else bids on the player, no option. The minimum bid can be pretty low or pretty high depending on what the auctioneer thinks of a player. However, the players that start higher usually have a few bidders too so it works out.
One thing to note, there is no house cut of the calcutta in Louisiana, illegal gambling if they take a cut. At least that was the law last I knew.
Hu
Sounds like your buddy is a nice guy !
If somebody tried to strongarm me into bidding or not bidding I'd deff be looking to do the old flip...Either I'd bid him up with or without the added pressure if it looked like he dumped then he could deal with the good ole boys that luv that kinda chit or he would have to pay premium on himself..Most of our calcutta's down south go pretty good & the guys that want the same players I want usually make a deal with me b4 auction not to get in a bidding war.:smile:
If somebody tried to strongarm me into bidding or not bidding I'd deff be looking to do the old flip...Either I'd bid him up with or without the added pressure if it looked like he dumped then he could deal with the good ole boys that luv that kinda chit or he would have to pay premium on himself..Most of our calcutta's down south go pretty good & the guys that want the same players I want usually make a deal with me b4 auction not to get in a bidding war.:smile:
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I don't think there was a justifiable reason. But everybody makes mistakes. I doubt it will happen again.
I am sure Troy is with me.
If there is NO pre auction deal. Someone tells me that? I just bid 20 bucks more everytime he bids, then if he does not buy HALF. I review his threats with the TD of which I know most of and get him excluded from auction and my money back, unless the Ass BUYS half after his IDLE threat.
Good learning experience for the newbie. Player probably knew he was a green horn and scared him OFF.
If there is NO pre auction deal. Someone tells me that? I just bid 20 bucks more everytime he bids, then if he does not buy HALF. I review his threats with the TD of which I know most of and get him excluded from auction and my money back, unless the Ass BUYS half after his IDLE threat.
Good learning experience for the newbie. Player probably knew he was a green horn and scared him OFF.
Try this out
When the McDermott tour was going good in the mid 90's, I was at a tourney at the Break, by St. Louis. Evelyn was running the tourney, and we had a calcutta that was run a little different. I kinda liked the idea.
Instead of 1 blind bid at the beginning, run all the players off on blind bids. The guys who buy the top players, have to bid early, to have a chance to get their guy. The middle level players, are not sure when someone might pick them, and when you get to the last few players, who generally don't buy themselves, everyone will quit bidding. They all go into a pot together and auctioned off.
When the McDermott tour was going good in the mid 90's, I was at a tourney at the Break, by St. Louis. Evelyn was running the tourney, and we had a calcutta that was run a little different. I kinda liked the idea.
Instead of 1 blind bid at the beginning, run all the players off on blind bids. The guys who buy the top players, have to bid early, to have a chance to get their guy. The middle level players, are not sure when someone might pick them, and when you get to the last few players, who generally don't buy themselves, everyone will quit bidding. They all go into a pot together and auctioned off.
calcutta
that is a no brainer it is simple---- GREED--- he wanted it all!!!!!:angry:
that is a no brainer it is simple---- GREED--- he wanted it all!!!!!:angry: