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Nice post, if only we could all be perfect.
Nice post, if only we could all be perfect.
Playing with a Disability? (Earl-Shane)
- Thread starter Rick S.
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I was really looking for some input from the 'other side'.
I see 378 people have read this thread, and still no reasons why people think it's OK to try and push his buttons.
No volunteers? OK....
Creedo...I remember you posting in the chat during the match. You mentioned you should "call Earl on his cell phone during the match, saying "I'd bet he'd really go off"
Please tell me why you'd think that would be funny? I'd sure like to hear it.
And next question will be how old are you?
I see 378 people have read this thread, and still no reasons why people think it's OK to try and push his buttons.
No volunteers? OK....
Creedo...I remember you posting in the chat during the match. You mentioned you should "call Earl on his cell phone during the match, saying "I'd bet he'd really go off"
Please tell me why you'd think that would be funny? I'd sure like to hear it.
And next question will be how old are you?
Sorry partner but you should read what you have just written because it truly makes no sense, and I hope what you said was just a mistake in your translation because there was nothing funny or entertaining about it.
Oh and by the way, if you were serious stick to pool because your knowledge of Psychiatry is weak.
JIMO
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Oddly enough, my one time interaction with Earl Strickland made me a full time believer and supporter in him. I've told the story many times on here so here is a shortened version....
My wife and I traveled to Kentucky, from Japan, to see the Lexington All-Stars tournament. Earl was listed and my whole focus was on meeting him and getting an autograph. I had always been a huge Strickland fan.
Yada, yada, yada...the last day of the event I hadn't seen Earl. In the early evening I went out to check the board to see when he was going to be playing. I go out and who is standing there looking at the board? That's right, the man himself. Not another soul around. I asked him if he would stay there for a second so I could go get my wife. I went and got her, we went out, and he was waiting. All we wanted was a picture with him. We told him we came from Japan and he told us how he's been over here a bunch of times and loves it over here. He sat there for at least a half hour talking with us. Was the nicest he could have been, friendly, cordial, you name it. He took pics with us and signed our tickets and he even let me check his cue out. The dude was cooler than a fan and I am glad to have that little time around him. Yes, he did vent on a few things like jump cues etc... but nothing he said seemed unreasonable for players at that level.
He could have easily shot a pic and signed an autograph and walked away. Nope, he took the time to sit with a few fans and give them a memorable experience. For that, regardless of his antics, I will always admire Earl Strickland.
MULLY
I think it'd be funny because I can see the humor in almost anything, including (but not limited to):
- A kid having a horrible accident on a trampoline
- A psycho senior citizen and a mouthy black dude on a public bus getting into a fistfight
- Racial, gay, fat, and your momma jokes
- Dick cancer
- The holocaust
- My own arrogance, hypocrisy, or general stupidity.
Seeing people flip out (especially over nothing) is funny. If it weren't, adam sandler and jerry springer would be broke. We're all human, we laugh at screwed up things. Am I a bad guy for laughing at this? Will you also say that Shane's a bad guy when he was clearly struggling to contain laughter during one of earl's outbursts?
Maybe if I knew him I wouldn't laugh. It's hard for me to say, because I don't know how severely bipolar earl is. Apparently off the table he's a great guy.
How much leeway do you think being bipolar buys earl? How much of it is chemical imbalance vs. his upbringing vs. just being a natural-born asshοle? Does being bipolar make you more inclined to make wisecracks about deafness around someone who's nearly deaf? I think that's general insensitivity, not a disorder. Is it really an uncontrollable "mood swing" when he starts being a dick the moment the match starts, and stops the instant he's won? I think that's being overly competitive and having an unhealthy belief that your worth as a human being is tied to your performance at the pool table.
Sometimes I hear people say "yeah but nobody can really complain if they get sharked by earl, because they knew what they were getting into." ...that's a two way street. If earl's choice is to skip the meds so he can shoot better pool, fine. He can't complain then if he shows his ass in public and people laugh or get upset. He knew what he was getting into when he decided pool is more important than his general mental health.
PS: my age isn't relevant, but there are a few gray hairs.
Your sick...I have a warped sense of humor, but a "kid having a horrible accident" is funny?
No...sometimes I laugh myself at some of it.
That he is. He's a great guy who'd give you the shirt off his back if you needed it.
Scroll up..read SYMPTOMS.
Unhealthy...?? Yeah, that's what happens when you don't EAT. Not eating is caused by lack of $$$. Lack of $$$ is caused by people poking and prodding Earl to get a reaction. His performance at the pooltable is directly related to eating, and life in general.[/QUOTE]
Tell me...where do you work?
Would you like people to come to your work and try to make you 'flip out' and make you lose your job, and paycheck? Do you really see something funny in that? If so, just tell me where you work.
Playing with people's live's isn't cool. You'd think that someone with gray hair would have figured that out by now.
Well rick, I'd like to say you got me wrong but maybe you don't. Sense of humor doesn't always translate well unless you're in person.
It's weird you brought up the trampoline accident and not the holocaust. Reminds me of this old joke: Hitler's addressing his cabinet and says "My plan is to kill six million jews and one clown"... someone asks "why the clown?" ...hitler replies "SEE! Nobody cares about the jews."
If it makes more sense to you, the trampoline reference is about a handful of youtube videos showing kids trying really really stupid things on a trampoline, like a double flip into a basketball dunk (but the kind lands inside the hoop, upside down). Or he tries to over his roof and clears it entirely and lands on the other side of the house. Probably both things resulted in broken legs. You see these exact same videos along with nasty skateboard and skiing accidents on America's funniest home videos also. Doesn't mean I'm a sicko who gets off on the suffering of others. I'm laughing at the foolishness of the kid's plan, not the horrible (yet predictable) consequences.
Ok, so, to recap:
- Earl's disorder is 100% responsible for his bad behavior on or off the table. No part of it is his own fault.
- Even though you sometimes laugh at the behavior, and shane did too, doing so is a bit crappy because it's basically laughing at a disabled person.
- It's sick to even joke about pushing earl's buttons on purpose (it WAS a joke if that wasn't clear. I'd never call him during a match, and if someone near me was about to call him I'd stop them).
- People pushing earl's buttons makes him shoot worse which makes him too poor to eat which makes him unhealthy which makes him shoot bad which makes him mad. So it's someone else's fault if earl shoots bad and flips out.
Is that pretty much it?
It's weird you brought up the trampoline accident and not the holocaust. Reminds me of this old joke: Hitler's addressing his cabinet and says "My plan is to kill six million jews and one clown"... someone asks "why the clown?" ...hitler replies "SEE! Nobody cares about the jews."
If it makes more sense to you, the trampoline reference is about a handful of youtube videos showing kids trying really really stupid things on a trampoline, like a double flip into a basketball dunk (but the kind lands inside the hoop, upside down). Or he tries to over his roof and clears it entirely and lands on the other side of the house. Probably both things resulted in broken legs. You see these exact same videos along with nasty skateboard and skiing accidents on America's funniest home videos also. Doesn't mean I'm a sicko who gets off on the suffering of others. I'm laughing at the foolishness of the kid's plan, not the horrible (yet predictable) consequences.
Ok, so, to recap:
- Earl's disorder is 100% responsible for his bad behavior on or off the table. No part of it is his own fault.
- Even though you sometimes laugh at the behavior, and shane did too, doing so is a bit crappy because it's basically laughing at a disabled person.
- It's sick to even joke about pushing earl's buttons on purpose (it WAS a joke if that wasn't clear. I'd never call him during a match, and if someone near me was about to call him I'd stop them).
- People pushing earl's buttons makes him shoot worse which makes him too poor to eat which makes him unhealthy which makes him shoot bad which makes him mad. So it's someone else's fault if earl shoots bad and flips out.
Is that pretty much it?
Not 100% correct
Will you also say that Shane's a bad guy when he was clearly struggling to contain laughter during one of earl's outbursts?
CREEDO,
YES, SHANE WAS LAUGHING AT THE FUNNY STUFF: MAGNIFYING CLASS, EAR MUFFS & WHAT NOT.
HE WAS NOT LAUGHING AT THE INSULTS & MUCH OF THE RANTING THAT EARL WAS DOING.
IT WAS EMBARASSING & MADE MOST OF THE PEOPLE AT THE MATCH, INCLUDING MYSELF, VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.
LIKE I SAID IN ANOTHER THREAD, THOSE WATCHING THE LIVESTREAM DID NOT HEAR EVERY THING THAT EARL SAID.
SLIM
Will you also say that Shane's a bad guy when he was clearly struggling to contain laughter during one of earl's outbursts?
CREEDO,
YES, SHANE WAS LAUGHING AT THE FUNNY STUFF: MAGNIFYING CLASS, EAR MUFFS & WHAT NOT.
HE WAS NOT LAUGHING AT THE INSULTS & MUCH OF THE RANTING THAT EARL WAS DOING.
IT WAS EMBARASSING & MADE MOST OF THE PEOPLE AT THE MATCH, INCLUDING MYSELF, VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.
LIKE I SAID IN ANOTHER THREAD, THOSE WATCHING THE LIVESTREAM DID NOT HEAR EVERY THING THAT EARL SAID.
SLIM
Craig...I never claimed to be a psychiatrist. I do have some extensive experience with bipolar. All I said (in response to Rick saying one was physical and one was mental) was that both disabilities (deafness and bipolar) were physical, not mental. That part is correct. If you don't catagorize schitzophrenia as a mental disorder, then okay, have it your way. My post was not meant to be funny or entertaining.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
just wanted to clarify something, being bipolar is a MENTAL not a physical defect. it is the cycling between hypomaina (or full blown maina) and depression. it affects my brain. not my ability to hear, see, smell, taste, walk, run, jump or shoot pool. i have shot and shot well in more than a few tournaments while in the midst of a severe depression stage. the hard part was mentally willing myself out of the bed, then out of the house, into the truck, and so on. playing wasn't the hard part. the going home and being so depressed you're not sure what you're going to do was the hard hard part. nice try, but a swing and a miss. stick to the pool knowlege, you hit it out of the park on that stuff.
jrt30004...Well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, because the doctors I have talked to say different...but what the heck do they know? They're only some of the top researchers in the country on these conditions.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
slim: you don't need to put on caps lock and bold for people to read your posts. If what you're saying makes sense, it's good enough in plain lowercase.
Sorry though, shane was struggling to contain himself when earl would start giving people dirty looks and yelling at the crowd, and if memory serves he was also smiling when earl had his biggest blowup and slammed the headphones. It wasn't about the equipment.
This whole disagreement with rick seems to be from some offhand comment I barely remember making. Someone else has said something like "haha, earl should put belly button lint on the table, johnny archer would really flip out". I can imagine someone else saying "you should put a 4 seconds shot clock on kid delicious, I bet that'd drive him nuts". Nobody really needs to read so much into these comments. Let's all fill out a hurt feelings form and drop it in the suggestion box.
Sorry though, shane was struggling to contain himself when earl would start giving people dirty looks and yelling at the crowd, and if memory serves he was also smiling when earl had his biggest blowup and slammed the headphones. It wasn't about the equipment.
This whole disagreement with rick seems to be from some offhand comment I barely remember making. Someone else has said something like "haha, earl should put belly button lint on the table, johnny archer would really flip out". I can imagine someone else saying "you should put a 4 seconds shot clock on kid delicious, I bet that'd drive him nuts". Nobody really needs to read so much into these comments. Let's all fill out a hurt feelings form and drop it in the suggestion box.
beamracing
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Rick I know I've told you this many times before but you really are my hero for more reasons than one. Thanks for telling it like is. Couldnt have been explained any better.
Playing with Disability
For whatever reason , most people do not consider anything a handicap unless you are missing a body part or have to have a wheelchair or other mechanical assistance.
It hasn't been that long ago that the hearing impaired finally were recognised as having a real disability.
I think most of it is just because of lack of knowledge of how debilitating some things can be.
For whatever reason , most people do not consider anything a handicap unless you are missing a body part or have to have a wheelchair or other mechanical assistance.
It hasn't been that long ago that the hearing impaired finally were recognised as having a real disability.
I think most of it is just because of lack of knowledge of how debilitating some things can be.
huh???
creedo,
sorry how i type bothers you.
Not sure what the point of your reply to my post was.
I guess you were able to get alot more insight into what shane was thinking from your computor screen than i was sitting next to him for all three days of the match.
Let us know what earl was thinking, then all these threads can be closed.
Slim
creedo,
sorry how i type bothers you.
Not sure what the point of your reply to my post was.
I guess you were able to get alot more insight into what shane was thinking from your computor screen than i was sitting next to him for all three days of the match.
Let us know what earl was thinking, then all these threads can be closed.
Slim
risky biz
Has Earl been actually diagnosed with bipolar or some other clinical disability? How do you know about the specialists, medications, etc.?
Has Earl been actually diagnosed with bipolar or some other clinical disability? How do you know about the specialists, medications, etc.?
Talking about us.
He lived down the road from me, we play golf together, and we're friends.
Same with beamracing. (posted in thread also)
KoolKat, EZMoney, and beamracing are all from Greensboro N.C. and friends of both Earl and I.
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Give it a rest, he knows Earl better than mostly anyone on this site if not the best. Earl has lived with Rick.