I am a right-handed shooter and I have BIH. How can I get on the 9-ball?
Also, what if the 8 is on the rail? How can I get on the 9-ball?
Thanks!
Jen
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I am a right-handed shooter and I have BIH. How can I get on the 9-ball?
Also, what if the 8 is on the rail? How can I get on the 9-ball?
Thanks!
Jen
I like placing the cue ball near the side pocket (where it's easy to reach) and drawing straight back up table for the nine. A medium draw stroke should get you back past the side pocket and off the rail for an easy nine. I prefer this to going back and forth across the table, and bringing the cue ball back for the nine this way.
If the eight ball was on the rail, I would either use draw and go one rail back up table or follow three rails for position. With BIH either shot is not that difficult.
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totally a comfort issue sir
i assume you wouldnt be asking if you knew but
do you follow or draw better?
the better players are all going to draw this because it should be pretty
routine and there is a ton of room for error
so theres your answer
no answer
p.s jay is the man so ignore me
i assume you wouldnt be asking if you knew but
do you follow or draw better?
the better players are all going to draw this because it should be pretty
routine and there is a ton of room for error
so theres your answer
no answer
p.s jay is the man so ignore me
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That's why I like drawing straight back or Neil's follow shot. No scratch on either one of these shots.
Either Neil's 1st shot or Jay's draw would be fine. I think the 8 is too far down table to consider the follow (Neil's 2nd shot) as a top option.
I would like to point out that I think to play shape for the straight back draw, especially with ball-in-hand, is one of the most overlooked shots in pool. Since 9 ball players are always looking for angle, they rarely try to leave themselves straight in.
I would personally hit the draw shot sightly different - I would draw with a slight angle into the rail - that leaves me plenty of room to clear the side pocket points so I don't get a surprise if I make a slight aiming error- see below.
Chris
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IMO just use follow. Its natural english and allows you to go "into" the line on your next shot. It allows for more error as you will have a decent shot on the 9 unless you are even with or passed the 9. Then if you go too far pass the 9, you could always shoot it in the side.
http://CueTable.com/P/?@3HWHV1IBBU2PWej3cWHV3cYvX3caEb2kWej3kVaG3kPAg1kRfi1kRnk@
http://CueTable.com/P/?@3HWHV1IBBU2PWej3cWHV3cYvX3caEb2kWej3kVaG3kPAg1kRfi1kRnk@
This is the way I would personally go. least amount of work especially for a right handed player such as myself. Speed will come into play but you can use the rail as a buffer if you happen to hit it too hard.
http://CueTable.com/P/?@3HWHV1IBBU3PDsG3cWHV3cYvX3caEb3kDsG3kVyE3kaxc1kTcJ1kURM@
http://CueTable.com/P/?@3HWHV1IBBU3PDsG3cWHV3cYvX3caEb3kDsG3kVyE3kaxc1kTcJ1kURM@
I would probably do this as well. Short side is pretty easy with just pure tops and the perfect angle with your BIH. It is alot more of a percentage play then drawing the ball along the rail or swinging around 3 rails for the 9.
OK I just set it up and I am probably following the ball as Neil showed OR I am setting it up with alot of angle and backcutting the 8 in with bottom left like this. The good thing about this shot is the cueball is comming "into" the angle of the following 9-ball shot. This is IMO actually the easiest way to get shape on the 9 with no risk.
Either is very easy, the draw straight up the rail sucks due to the reach, I never even set it up once I looked at the table as set up on a 9-foot. The follow and spinning the cueball across are the only 2 ways I would ever shoot this shot with ball in hand.
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This suggestion seems to me the right way to go. It is the easiest to judge in terms of speed and direction, has a greater margin of error than the draw shot position, and is easier to reach for a right-handed shooter.
I can second that. That's actually the only reasonable shot that came in my mind. Those drawshots are hard to control speedwise and rolling it uptable can be tough when it's hill-hill or you're trailing by quite a few games.
I'm with you on this one Jay. I prefer to stay away from using any rail if I could. Nothing better than a straight line for position.
On this shot I put it where I can reach the cue ball comfortably and I make sure to prepare my tip for this shot and have it well chalked. I try to make sure that I wind up a little short of straight in. Going past straight in on the nine just a little will make the shot more difficult.
P.S. On some of the tight pocket tables I want to shoot the eight ball into the closest pocket and straight in so that I can pinpoint the ball to the middle of the pocket.
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There are lots of ways as mentioned above. Which ones will work for you depends on your level. You should be able to find at least the following ways:
Four ways with no cushion.
Four ways with one cushion.
Three ways with two cushions.
While some of these are low percentage and you would not choose them with ball in hand, you need to know whether they are possible for you, since you may run into them otherwise, or balls may block your preferred route (if you are getting from the 5 to the 6, for example) when you have BIH.
When I quoted your post, the WEI tags were off to the right of the URL.
I consider this the standard pattern for this shot and similar. In commentator vernacular, it's "through the center of the table toward the second diamond."
If the object ball is closer to the cushion or even frozen, the I like to simply put the cueball straighter and stretch.
Fred
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Your call-what do you like?
Good advice by all posters for what works for them-and possibly for you.
I think key to this is that you are willing to experiment to see what works best for YOU.
As stated, do you have more success and confidence drawing or following the cueball?
You have stated that you are inclined to scratch in the side drawing the ball. That tells me that you can draw the ball somewhat,although,it also suggests that the BIH cb placement wasn't quite right for the result you wanted.
If you find that you hit cb follow better-do so. Be aware that BIH cb placement too close to ob may keep the cb from following up table as far as you wanted.
As posted-there are many options to get 9ball shape. It's not so much what should you do, but it's what can you do.
Make the 8ball, then the 9ball without scratching-that's the right result.
There's more than one way to get to Burbank. You're driving.
Have fun. Think-'and then?' Visualize your plan- execute with confidence-the hard part thinking and planning has already been done.
Better an execution problem than a planning problem. Shotmaking practice improves execution.
Thanks for posing the question. These guys know a lot of stuff. And most are thrilled to help those just starting on this wonderful journey.
Enjoy.
3railkick
Good advice by all posters for what works for them-and possibly for you.
I think key to this is that you are willing to experiment to see what works best for YOU.
As stated, do you have more success and confidence drawing or following the cueball?
You have stated that you are inclined to scratch in the side drawing the ball. That tells me that you can draw the ball somewhat,although,it also suggests that the BIH cb placement wasn't quite right for the result you wanted.
If you find that you hit cb follow better-do so. Be aware that BIH cb placement too close to ob may keep the cb from following up table as far as you wanted.
As posted-there are many options to get 9ball shape. It's not so much what should you do, but it's what can you do.
Make the 8ball, then the 9ball without scratching-that's the right result.
There's more than one way to get to Burbank. You're driving.
Have fun. Think-'and then?' Visualize your plan- execute with confidence-the hard part thinking and planning has already been done.
Better an execution problem than a planning problem. Shotmaking practice improves execution.
Thanks for posing the question. These guys know a lot of stuff. And most are thrilled to help those just starting on this wonderful journey.
Enjoy.
3railkick