No argument there.. But i can say what i think is right and debate for sake of good; i would love to be convinced; but so far i am siding with myself! hay! for a change!
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No argument there.. But i can say what i think is right and debate for sake of good; i would love to be convinced; but so far i am siding with myself! hay! for a change!
The "level cue stick" makes this correct....using inside I'd elevate to cut the ball as severely as possible.
The same principle applies to just rejecting "stuff", only proof makes it valid.
It will still be denied by many for a myriad of reasons, few rational.
J
You mean like Evolution vs. Creation? It never ceases to amaze me the level of stupidity in this country. Of course we know that the rest of the world is even worse. Some consolation!
If the OB picks up sidespin from the CB, it is because there is a sideways force between the CB and OB. This is the same force that causes throw. See Diagram 1 in the following article for an illustration:
"Throw - Part VIII: spin transfer" (BD, March, 2007)
For more info on this topic, including video demonstrations, shot examples, and physics-based proofs, see the spin transfer resource page.
I hope that helps convince you.
Also, see the plot and try the experiment in the following article: "Throw - Part II: results" (BD, September, 2006). There is throw even with thin cuts close to 90 degrees; although, the throw is less at faster speeds.
Regards,
Dave
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If you guys want to see famous pool-related quotes, see:
Top 100 Pool and Billiards Maxims, Sayings, and Quotes
If you just want "secrets," see:
Top 100 Pool and Billiards Tips, "Secrets," and "Gems"
Enjoy,
Dave
Saw an interesting bumper sticker once that may have answered that age old question, it read: "Thank God For Evolution". :smile:
J
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Wow!!! How much do you charge for lessons??
Dr. Dave when you shot the impossible cut shot, the 11 ball, i slowed down the video speed, and noticed that the 11 ball did not spin left or right it rolled to the pocket; and that agrees with the fact you did not stun it and hit hard so no collision induced throw and no spin induced throw. The shot i am talking about at about 1.52, note the white stripe it did not go side way! is this wrong observation or right? i did noticed a lot of side spin for the stun with english shots on other vids..Again thank you for all your time.
Yes, of course it can....and an unsupported dismissal should be given credibility and respect approximately equal to that given to the original unsupported assertion.... that is, little, if any, dependent mainly upon the knowledge and reputation of the parties involved.
I wasn't arguing the transfer of english issue in my prior post, I was simply addressing the irony of someone making this statement....
....without "backing it up". An unsupported assertion and/or dismissal will always rightfully be given less credibility than one supported by fact and reason. J
I love it! My favorite was "Shoot Pool, Not People." Too bad no one paid attention. :frown:
One of the most difficult things is to convince a pool player that he is wrong, there is pride involved here i know. But from my 35 years experience shooting, with only thing on my mind "consistency", i find out hitting the thin cut with outside helps a lot due to the swerve of CB not english induced throw.
I am not saying you are wrong, because no one can convince someone that he or she is wrong until they find out by themselves. Until that time enjoy pool, and please when you get unexpected result from a pool shot in a game or a match question it, and try again and again, write it down for next practice..Try snooker! that will show you how bad a pool stroke is yet still makes balls in pool.
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So, did you try the 'impossible bank' with inside english yet?
As to snooker, you're talking to a guy with a lot more snooker experience,
on everything from carom cloth to 42 ounce.
As to pride, google 'projection' as a psychology term.
Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying your contributions to AZ.....
...a similar argument like this started about 100 years ago at
English Billiards....some fine players would have agreed with you...
....but they were wrong.
I didn't see the references to the authors of those sayings and tips. Where are they listed on the web site?
I wrote or paraphrased most of those from memory. Some were from similar past AZB threads. I also made up some of them (e.g., "Don't put too much American on the ball." and "Let one finger stay and the other will point the way."). Many are famous quotes from famous people (e.g., Benjamin Franklin, Yogi Berra, Edison, Einstein, etc.). When I can find some time, I will try to research these and list the original authors (and make sure the quotes are correct, and not just paraphrased).
I doubt most of the pool-advice quotes can be attributed to any one individual with an original published source, but I will try to research these also. Many are just obvious things that different people paraphrase in different ways and aren't attributed to any one person. For example, do you think I could find original sources for:
"It's not the cue. It's you,"
"Don't use more power than you can control."
"Draw for show, follow for dough."
"There's nothing worse than good position if you miss the shot."
"Don't try to get perfect shape when good shape will do."
"Playing a tough shot is better than playing a tough safety."
"If you can't find the one being hustled in the pool room, it's you."
"There's always a shot ... you just have to find it."
"Don't try to run out unless you can."
"Think long, think wrong."
"Stroke it, don't poke it."
"Let your cue do the work."
etc.!
Regards,
Dave
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That sounds familiar. Where's your annotated bibliography?When you take from one source it is plagiarism.
When you take from everyone it is research.
Regards,
Dave
You the man. Thanks, but you trying to drive me crazy!! 'impossible bank' with inside english common!! i thought we are buddies!
I was able to make it with outside, but had to cheat!! once you apply the cheat you make it every time:bash: