Pools Greatest Biters

Ken_4fun said:
I was in Atlanta and one of the pro players playing in the tourney was there from Kansas City.

He was broke and no way home, he asked for enough money to get a one way flight home.

I gave him 200 and thought I had just kissed it goodbye. I go to the next tourneyment some months later and he sees me from across the room and comes and gives me 100.

I see him again couple months later, he gives me another 100.

I see him in Louisville and sure enough he hands me another 100, and tells me that he will have the other 100 in a few months. I honestly think I could have continued to get 100 for the rest of my life.

I did tell him that he didnt owe me anything and had settled up long ago. But I did have him buy me a beer and called it even.

LOL

Ken

Everyone at one time or another has found themselves on the shortskies. Who was the pro that paid the money back.
JoeyA
 
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Ken_4fun said:
I was in Atlanta and one of the pro players playing in the tourney was there from Kansas City.

He was broke and no way home, he asked for enough money to get a one way flight home.

I gave him 200 and thought I had just kissed it goodbye. I go to the next tourneyment some months later and he sees me from across the room and comes and gives me 100.

I see him again couple months later, he gives me another 100.

I see him in Louisville and sure enough he hands me another 100, and tells me that he will have the other 100 in a few months. I honestly think I could have continued to get 100 for the rest of my life.

I did tell him that he didnt owe me anything and had settled up long ago. But I did have him buy me a beer and called it even.

LOL

Ken

I am glad to see our buddy is doing better. The next time you see him can you remind him of the 200 he owes me. LOL
 
I hope this doesnt get anyone mad, and ill say it as politely as possible. The stories are funny and interesting, but most of you guys come off as suckers with these stories your telling. Why would you let someone borrow any amount of money that is a 1. Gambler 2. A pool player and 3. A GAMBLER!
 
RunoutalloverU said:
I hope this doesnt get anyone mad, and ill say it as politely as possible. The stories are funny and interesting, but most of you guys come off as suckers with these stories your telling. Why would you let someone borrow any amount of money that is a 1. Gambler 2. A pool player and 3. A GAMBLER!

Until you have known some, I guess it is a little difficult to explain.
 
RunoutalloverU said:
I hope this doesnt get anyone mad, and ill say it as politely as possible. The stories are funny and interesting, but most of you guys come off as suckers with these stories your telling. Why would you let someone borrow any amount of money that is a 1. Gambler 2. A pool player and 3. A GAMBLER!
1. Investment. Provide some stake money and maybe you will double your return.
2. There are some good guys that play pool, but you need to know them to some degree.
3. Combine the first two.
 
You are close

Terry Ardeno said:
Jerry Forsyth's story of Ronnie Allen "jarred" (no pun intended) part of my memory but I can't remember which two players were involved in this. I THINK it was Cornbread Red & Fatty, but it MAY have been Jersey Red and / or RA as well. I hope that either Jerry, Freddie, Grady, Jay or the like can step in and clarify. As "best I can remember" the story....

One night after a match up in Johnson City, Cornbread Red and Fatty were going outside to the parking lot. Two or three masked robbers accosted them in the parking lot, saying "Give us all your money!" Fats asked one of the robbers if he could first say something. The robber said "Make it quick!" Fatty turns to Red and says "Do you remember the $1,200 I owe you?" Red says "Yea, you do owe me $1,200." Fatty then pulls out his wallet and peels off $1,200 and gives it to Red, saying "There, I paid ya. We're all squared now." He then gave the robber his wallet and what money was left in it. The robbers also robbed Red and then left.

Anybody else remember that story?

You are close, it happened in Evansville, IN, which is close to Johnston City, IL. It happened at the Elks Club there. Fats was there, Cornbread wasnt. Marshall "Squirrel" Carpenter was there also, along with Hubert Cokes and others. Robbers with machine guns (that's what it took to rob Cokes) came in on the boys. Squirrel tells the story, Fats never stopped talking the whole heist, and either Cokes owed Squirrel or Squirrel owed Cokes and somebody tried to get credit for paying off his tab. Cokes spent big money trying to track the robbers down. It was never found out if he did, cause if he did find them, they were dead ducks.
Incidentally re Jerry Forsythe's, the "Louie Roberts breaking the cue in front of the guys he pawned it too, story," happened in my joint, the North Shore Billiard Club in Chicago, not in Nashville. He was playing my partner in the place, Race Track Phil Guagliardo. One of the dangerous pawn brokers was Sammy Eubank from Hot Springs AR. Louie saved the day by breaking the cue, because these were all very bad guys that had given him money for the cue, and none wanted to lose face by letting another guy get the cue. It was a stroke of genius on Louie's part.
Jerry, I would have never brought it up until you mentioned your "immunity" to the bite. The bite is a natural phenomena of the hustling community and should not be disparaged.

the Beard
 
Terry Ardeno said:
Jerry Forsyth's story of Ronnie Allen "jarred" (no pun intended) part of my memory but I can't remember which two players were involved in this. I THINK it was Cornbread Red & Fatty, but it MAY have been Jersey Red and / or RA as well. I hope that either Jerry, Freddie, Grady, Jay or the like can step in and clarify. As "best I can remember" the story....

One night after a match up in Johnson City, Cornbread Red and Fatty were going outside to the parking lot. Two or three masked robbers accosted them in the parking lot, saying "Give us all your money!" Fats asked one of the robbers if he could first say something. The robber said "Make it quick!" Fatty turns to Red and says "Do you remember the $1,200 I owe you?" Red says "Yea, you do owe me $1,200." Fatty then pulls out his wallet and peels off $1,200 and gives it to Red, saying "There, I paid ya. We're all squared now." He then gave the robber his wallet and what money was left in it. The robbers also robbed Red and then left.

Anybody else remember that story?

Without a doubt, that's the funniest story I think I've ever heard in my life. I can't stop laughing here at work. Someone just asking me if I was crying...

I need to find a brown bag to breath into...
 
It is a funny story

SpiderWebComm said:
Without a doubt, that's the funniest story I think I've ever heard in my life. I can't stop laughing here at work. Someone just asking me if I was crying...

I need to find a brown bag to breath into...


SpiderWebComm,

That story that I shared and that Freddie was kind enough to clarify is one that I tell to people who don't understand how we can love pool so much. I try to explain to them that part of the reason we love our great game so much is the pool culture. The CHARACTERS in this sport are hilarious!
And that story is one that whenever I tell it, still makes me laugh as well.

And Freddie, when you wrote earlier about "vicious teeth marks" in you from "the bite", I'm sure I wasn't the only one cracking up when I read it!
 
Terry Ardeno said:
SpiderWebComm,

That story that I shared and that Freddie was kind enough to clarify is one that I tell to people who don't understand how we can love pool so much. I try to explain to them that part of the reason we love our great game so much is the pool culture. The CHARACTERS in this sport are hilarious!
And that story is one that whenever I tell it, still makes me laugh as well.

And Freddie, when you wrote earlier about "vicious teeth marks" in you from "the bite", I'm sure I wasn't the only one cracking up when I read it!

I mean, assuming that's a true story.... to think of that on the fly while you're getting robbed at machine-gun-point, is absolutely genius. I guess that's why Fats was a good gambler. If you don't get rattled in that situation and pull the move of the century, you must be unrattlable (if there's such a word).

You're so right... no sport has the characters that pool has. They have reality shows for everyone - and they all do well. If Ozzy Osbourne (who can't even spit out a coherent sentence) gets #1 ratings.... follow Keith McCready around for a few months with a camera and put that in prime time.

Hmmmmmmm.....

That's a sure-fire #1 hit reality show. If I only knew a producer, I'd be LOADED right now.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I mean, assuming that's a true story.... to think of that on the fly while you're getting robbed at machine-gun-point, is absolutely genius. I guess that's why Fats was a good gambler. If you don't get rattled in that situation and pull the move of the century, you must be unrattlable (if there's such a word).

Unrattlable. Good job!
Whether that word WAS a word before or not is now a moot point because as of right now, it is in my vocabulary for ever more.
Unrattlable...I really like that!

Don King the boxing promotor once said that a prosecutor in one of his trials was using "trickeration" to sway the jury....
 
I don’t know if there is any truth to this story, so I will leave the names out. If it is true someone will surely identify the truth and may reveal who this person. If not...It was still a good story...

Apparently back in the day here in Arizona there were a few pros that resided here. One of the pros in the valley decided he was going to move away. The rub is he did not tell anyone he was moving but instead went around and borrowed $500 from about 20 different people saying he had some super easy action lined up and would “pay them back when he gets back”……

Of course he never returned…….. (You do the math)
 
danny jones story

Danny was hitting some balls around, practicing, when a rather large angry man approached the table.

"Hey, Danny, where's that $1000 you owe me?"

Danny says, "Things haven't been going so good lately,"

The guy says loudly, "I need my money Danny"

Danny sensing he may be in a little trouble says, " Well, OK, will you settle for half?"

The guy studies a little bit, thinking half is better than a zero, and says "Alright I'll take half."

Danny without missing a beat says "OK, I owe you $500."

Steam started to come outta the guys ears now, but after a few seconds the guy started laughing and Danny escaped another close call.
 
That's hilarious!

Martin


punter said:
Danny was hitting some balls around, practicing, when a rather large angry man approached the table.

"Hey, Danny, where's that $1000 you owe me?"

Danny says, "Things haven't been going so good lately,"

The guy says loudly, "I need my money Danny"

Danny sensing he may be in a little trouble says, " Well, OK, will you settle for half?"

The guy studies a little bit, thinking half is better than a zero, and says "Alright I'll take half."

Danny without missing a beat says "OK, I owe you $500."

Steam started to come outta the guys ears now, but after a few seconds the guy started laughing and Danny escaped another close call.
 
For Freddy

Freddy,

You are very correct that the bite has become a part of the hustling community. But I know that you, as I , can remember when it was quite different. Prior to the mid-sixties the players would all help one another out. If one of them got busted someone would bankroll the trip home or provide a little stake to get him back on track. But the money went around in a circle. At some point everyone would need a little help and get it and then give a little help to someone else.

Then, and I will let you fill in the names, some folks began to step out of the circle when it came time for them to help and only stepped into the circle to receive. And when biting like this became 'popular' it changed the tone of the scene. Wallets began to clamp shut and it got a lot harder to score a stake when one was needed. To me it was a shame that this occured as it altered the entire mood of our world.
 
Yes, things have changed

Jerry Forsyth said:
Freddy,

You are very correct that the bite has become a part of the hustling community. But I know that you, as I , can remember when it was quite different. Prior to the mid-sixties the players would all help one another out. If one of them got busted someone would bankroll the trip home or provide a little stake to get him back on track. But the money went around in a circle. At some point everyone would need a little help and get it and then give a little help to someone else.

Then, and I will let you fill in the names, some folks began to step out of the circle when it came time for them to help and only stepped into the circle to receive. And when biting like this became 'popular' it changed the tone of the scene. Wallets began to clamp shut and it got a lot harder to score a stake when one was needed. To me it was a shame that this occured as it altered the entire mood of our world.


Yeah, you're right. I have to admit I have also closed the door to today's biters. I am still somewhat vulnerable to the champion bitemen of the past, Ronnie, Bugs, Danny etc., but I have reduced my losses by allowing them only 1 out of 3 successful attempts. 2 out of 3 requests are met by a stonewalling sob story from me.
On another note, if you ever do an edit rewrite, mention the Louie story happened in my joint. I have a finished movie script that I wrote that features that event as the first act.

the Beard
 
Collection Business

jay helfert said:
I'm playing at the World Series of Poker in Vegas two years ago, and I make the final table in the $2,000 Limit Hold'em. I finally get eliminated in 7th place, and win $41,880. I get a gift bag from the shop across the hall and ask to get paid in cash. It takes the gal about ten minutes to do an accurate count on the money. I tipped her a 20. I get paid and stuff it all into the bag with a T-shirt I bought wrapped around the money.

I'm walking out of the ballroom of the Rio, and who magically "appears" next to me but CLIFF. What he was doing there and how he knew I had won the money, I do not know to this day. Frankly I'm surprised to see him, and ask him what are you doing here? He just smiles and says, "Can I get $200 until next time I see you". I'm so suprised, I reach in my pocket and blindly hand it to him.

Yes, Cliff is the best "bite" artist operating today. When he won both divisions and $11,000 at the U.S. Bar Table three years ago, there was a lineup of about a dozen people asking me to get their money for them. I told them they are on their own. I'm not in the collection business.

BUT I AM JAY; THE COLLECTION GURU
 
T-Rex is getting pretty good at the bite! He has rounded up a couple thousand on a few occasions in Reno. Too funny!
 
eaglesfan44 said:
T-Rex is getting pretty good at the bite! He has rounded up a couple thousand on a few occasions in Reno. Too funny!

He does work it pretty good. Somehow when you hand him a 100, it seems like he let you off easy.
 
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