Pre flag Masters Chalk

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Makes me wonder now...what is a fair price for a piece of chalk that is 20 years old?

I paid $28.50 for my first new Meucci Originals back in 1978. I sold it for $125 a few years ago.

I hope I didn't rip someone off....


:rolleyes:



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Makes me wonder now...what is a fair price for a piece of chalk that is 20 years old?

I paid $28.50 for my first new Meucci Originals back in 1978. I sold it for $125 a few years ago.

I hope I didn't rip someone off....


:rolleyes:



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crook and a thief you are ;)

I paid $100 for a Burton Span and lets just say I got a "little" bit more than that 30 years later ;) And it was not even a pre-flag Spain :thumbup:
 
crook and a thief you are ;)

I paid $100 for a Burton Span and lets just say I got a "little" bit more than that 30 years later ;) And it was not even a pre-flag Spain :thumbup:

Soooooo....how much for 'pre-wand' Magic Chalk?
 
Theres a guy I shoot with who thinks every time he misses the table rolled off or there was a piece of chalk crumb on the table or the rail is screwed up but never once considers that maybe he just missed. My point is that when I mis-cue I am happy to know that I am the donkey caused it and not the chalk therefor I can use whatever I find lying on the table, regardless if it has a flag or not. If the table chalk has a hole drilled halfway to China I grab a nice piece of OB, Blue Diamond, Masters, NIR, etc out of my case that I will probably leave behind, because that is how I got most of my chalk assortment.
 
When I first started playing pool, back in 2010, I read about it all I could. And one thing I read about, particularly in this forum, was how preflag Master's chalk was the supposed bee's knees. I really wanted to try it, so when I saw somebody was selling some I just had to try it out. I bought several cubes from Fast Larry Gunninger. You guys might have heard of him. He shoots at about the level of a Mike Sigel or Buddy Hall...or so he wants you to believe. The chalk does seem to stick to the tip real well, but it wasn't worth the price I paid per cube. $1 is a very good price. I can't remember what I paid, but they were definitely more than that. The past few years I've been playing with Blue Diamond and feel more content playing with chalk that I know I won't have to search far and wide for. But I'd be content shooting with any chalk that is Master's level or higher, doesn't cause a mess, and doesn't cost more than $4 per cube.


The Fast One passed on not too long ago. His wife was killed crossing the street and like within 48 hours he was dead too, presumably by his own hand.

Carry on.

Lou Figueroa
 
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Makes me wonder now...what is a fair price for a piece of chalk that is 20 years old?
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LoL about the same as it costs today. If not less. Because the age introduces the opportunity for the product to become altered from its original condition.

The silly thing is, with all the great chalk out there, why pay (more) for something that has a higher risk of being " different" than the mfg intended, or downright worse.

Don't get me wrong, sometimes older is clearly better, but this is not one of those times.
 
And yes, everyone pretty much knows the story about pre-flag, it's only been discussed here a million times, so much, I never felt the need to even bring it to Skip the few times I met him. It's an old story, and if folks like it better, so be it. Why would you even care enough to start a thread on it?????

I didn't know about it. I wouldn't have known if he didn't start this thread. He found something new for him and thought he should share it, I see nothing wrong on his part.
Believe it or not, there are some people that know less stuff than you, even somethings you take for granted, and there are some people that know way more than you and they assume that you know them so they don't bring them up. But I don't believe that this system works, sharing knoledge is a good thing in my eyes, even if it is something simple that "everyone pretty much knows the story", because there will be always someone who doesn't know it and is interested to learn.

Now, do I find this forum hypocritical? Of course I do. I am a new member here too, and the few months I'm here all I've read is that production cues are less valuable than fire wood, LD shafts are for unbelievable idiots, etc etc etc and noone bats an eye or thinks that some members are out of line for saying those things... But 1 person actually took the time to contact someone in charge and thought he would share the information, but "oh my god we will ban you"....
 
The Fast One passed on not too long ago. His wife was killed crossing the street and like within 48 hours he was dead too, presumably by his own hand.

Carry on.

Lou Figueroa

I thought that was a bunch of bologna when I first heard word. I googled "Larry Guninger" and found nothing on his death. This post made me look a little further. I guess his real last name is Grindinger.
 
Now, do I find this forum hypocritical? Of course I do. I am a new member here too, and the few months I'm here all I've read is that production cues are less valuable than fire wood, LD shafts are for unbelievable idiots, etc etc etc and noone bats an eye or thinks that some members are out of line for saying those things... But 1 person actually took the time to contact someone in charge and thought he would share the information, but "oh my god we will ban you"....

Don't get it twisted.

He could have made a thread containing the info without attacking any specific poster. To add, the challenging attitude toward being notified of our rules is an issue to me.

Feel free to post within the guidelines and everyone is happy....(mostly)
 
Why is the sexual orientation of chalk being discussed? And with such slanderous language.

This place os nuts,
 
Pre flag

They claim to of not changed anything...?


Sky blue or masters blue... it's obvious they changed something..


Rob.M
 
There's a sucker born every minute...and Fast Larry certainly knew that. He was indeed a legend in his own mind. Never in his long life was he ever even close to pro speed. BTW, FL passed away a year ago.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

I bought several cubes from Fast Larry Gunninger. You guys might have heard of him. He shoots at about the level of a Mike Sigel or Buddy Hall...or so he wants you to believe.
 
LoL about the same as it costs today. If not less. Because the age introduces the opportunity for the product to become altered from its original condition.

The silly thing is, with all the great chalk out there, why pay (more) for something that has a higher risk of being " different" than the mfg intended, or downright worse.

Don't get me wrong, sometimes older is clearly better, but this is not one of those times.

Just curious how you are so sure about this. Honestly I'm still playing out of the 1st of 2 Gross of preflag Masters I bought on ebay in 1995 for like $20 plus shipping. I also frequent a couple of local rooms that generally use modern flagged Masters and I'll be darned if I can tell any difference in them. I'd never pay the premium for preflag some ask, but I often wonder how people claim one is, or isn't better than the other. Based on what?
 
I didn't know about it. I wouldn't have known if he didn't start this thread. He found something new for him and thought he should share it, I see nothing wrong on his part.
Believe it or not, there are some people that know less stuff than you, even somethings you take for granted, and there are some people that know way more than you and they assume that you know them so they don't bring them up. But I don't believe that this system works, sharing knoledge is a good thing in my eyes, even if it is something simple that "everyone pretty much knows the story", because there will be always someone who doesn't know it and is interested to learn.

Now, do I find this forum hypocritical? Of course I do. I am a new member here too, and the few months I'm here all I've read is that production cues are less valuable than fire wood, LD shafts are for unbelievable idiots, etc etc etc and noone bats an eye or thinks that some members are out of line for saying those things... But 1 person actually took the time to contact someone in charge and thought he would share the information, but "oh my god we will ban you"....

Yes, knowledge is good. But he started the thread not for knowledge but to knock someone else. No outlandish claims were made. He could have just mentioned, "by the way" but Pre-Flag is the same chalk is the current version, but he made it out like someone was being ripped off.

The folks that buy Pre-Flag know full well it's the same formula, and if they don't, oh well, do some research before you spend a whole $10 :D
 
Well ----

Actually, I play pretty much exclusively with Pre-flag, mostly because I have tons of it, and I guess I am one of those stupid guys that think there is a difference. I was told that the older formula had lead in it, and there was cause to remove it.

I do think the GREEN Masters chalk adheres better to the tip than the normal BLUE, either preflag or postflag. :thumbup:

Should I start a new thread? I definitely think that something is different in the green. It seems "creamer" if that makes sense.


Ken
 
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Just curious how you are so sure about this. Honestly I'm still playing out of the 1st of 2 Gross of preflag Masters I bought on ebay in 1995 for like $20 plus shipping. I also frequent a couple of local rooms that generally use modern flagged Masters and I'll be darned if I can tell any difference in them. I'd never pay the premium for preflag some ask, but I often wonder how people claim one is, or isn't better than the other. Based on what?

My only point is that "old chalk" has the opportunity to change over time.
It might or might not change much, and even if it does, it might not be a bad thing, but if you have fresh chalk you can be sure that it is performing as it was intended.

Some folks like the old stuff. Cool.
 
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