Bye FELICIA!
Bye FELICIA!
Bye FELICIA!
Pro pool on glorious Gold Crown 6 Cushions
- Thread starter iusedtoberich
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Yup, compared to pros I suck. I play pool because it's fun. It's more fun when it's on tables I like, and when I can play shots I enjoy playing. Not only do I enjoy playing pool on GC's and other Brunswick classics, I enjoy watching pool being played on such tables too, especially with green cloth and Centennial balls. I like the tradition, to feel like you could have been in the 60's, 50's or even the 20's and 30's, you know. It's what pool is to me, a wonderful, simple pastime, free of all stress and any thought about everyday problems, a clean escape from computers and cellphones. I don't like it when it changes so much, that certain shots and strategies disappear. It's not about what I can and cannot adjust to. I could adjust to a mud table with marbles for balls and a broomstick for a cue, but why would I want to? It's not what I enjoy doing. I'm in a somewhat rare position on here I think, in that I play and compete in nearly every cue sport, so I doubt failure to adjust being the reason why I like my US pool table a certain way... Sometimes I feel like people on this forum only enjoy pool because they are good at it, not for any love of the game or its history.
Realistically, even if we applied ourselves fully, I doubt even .001% of this forums total membership could have any chance making even minimum wage as a pro. It's a hard, stressful life, full of uncertainty, lonelyness and heartbreak. You're not free to do and say what you please because of sponsorships etc...Anyway, what they do have little to do with me. I play in tournaments sometimes, because I like playing. I hope to be able to do that in the future as well. I'd hate to "have to play" because I depend on the income, or as a boring chore that I happen to be good at. I remember hearing in the commentary how many of the pros of yesteryear actually didn't like the game anymore and were dying to get the tournament over and done with so they could go fishing or doing other things they actually liked. How sad is that?
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Yeah, I didn’t love the short Diamond rails...but I’ve played on shorter....
...Robertson and Kim Steel and British snooker tables, to name some
...so it was easier for me to adjust,
At least Diamond listens....hence the blue label....and Greg is always thinking.
...and Diamond thinks more about how a table should play...
...he doesn’t have designers that can’t hit the end rail...Brunswick designers gave us
name plates and score markers that make your knuckles bleed.....
...and do you think Diamond would do this to a corner pocket?...corner pocket ashtrays.
GC1V.....I know a mechanic who had to add some more support to brand new ones...
...and after a couple years, a great banker told me there were soft spots in the rails....
...glue giving up?
..and this is from a guy who competed and loved Brunswick most of his life.....
...but they’ve gone the way of the Big Three auto makers...at least until the Japanese
forced them to give us a better product.
pt...still a Mopar man, nevertheless..
He he... I know a top local player in DE that owned a pool room in the 90's. He was a lower level pro, and gave the B players the 5 out and the break. He had beaten one particular fish for about 5k over the course of a few sessions this way. Always on the same table. The fish said he was never playing on that table again, something was weird with the rails. So the next time the tables were recovered, the owner had the entire top from that one table swapped with another. The fish played again, not knowing he was in fact playing on the same top
So, your pool table at home still has a napped cloth on it right? in order to keep your game playing like they tables played up until the mid 80's, before Simonis started being the replacement cloth, with their 760 fast worsted woolen cloth.....right?
Your post reminds me when I was a kid in Tulsa...a road player who’d made a big win
bought his pool hall cash....he explained to me why we weren’t going to play 9-ball.
His best game was banks...so on his main action GCI, he loosened the the rail bolts
a quarter turn...said a kid my age came in and after three banks, played the table better
than he could....dropped him like a hot potato...
I still felt like I took a win to the joint, though...he kept me entertained all day with stories.
As usual, PT, that's a good story. I hope I can hear em for years to come (Mishael has been on my mind today) ......I remember a few similar stories from my young years but, I can't tell a.story for chit, not to mention, you've probably heard similar stories and from better story tellers....PT, sir, it's the TELLER that matters, not the story.
Your a HUGE asset to AZB,
Jeff
I hope someone puts up that footage of Greenleaf where he plays on lightening fast cloth...Can't find it now.
Well, I'm married.
For some, that's all it takes....lol.
Jeff
P.S.
Dear lord, PLEASE don't let my wife read this...amen.
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Honey, if your reading this???.....I was only kidding
I don't know your speed but, I play on a semi-regular basis with a few amateurs that can hang with the lower-level pros and beat a lot of the lowest almost unknown pros for the cash.
I sometimes get the feeling that most people think all pro pool players are killers. When in fact, there are lot of players that are considered pros eventhough they have never had even one "paying" sponsor. Most of those level pros are either financially independent and can afford to chase a dream or live like bums because they can't afford a happy meal and a room in a flop house without hustling amateurs out of their lunch money.
Remember, the lowest of the pros are pretty much under the radar to people that never leave their local rooms.
IMO, ^^^^^^ last group fits your opinion of lower-level pros and their struggles in pool which, IMO, you are correct.
Those particular pros are the biggest reason I go to tournaments. Those type pros speeds are just low enough to not make a living in pro pool but, just high enough to make an amateur like myself struggle to beat or even stay even with them on my very best days.
The lowest of pros are easy targets. Yep, I said it....easy targets. Why? Well, they are usually hard up for money and make unwise decisions when making a game with an unknown amateur that plays pretty much even with them but, they have no idea until it's to late.
Anyways, it's not that bad. We only live once. If that life makes them happy, well, I guess it's ok.
I just hope they enjoy living on SSI, EBT etc...etc when they are older. Then again, that would probably be a step up for some of them.
As for tables, I don't really give a ratz-a55 what table I'm gonna play on. As well all know, your opponent is playing on the same table with you. So, table type shouldn't matter. To me, what matters more would be which game and what rules. Some people are much better at certain games than others and that is an advantage but, a table is no advantage unless it's a rigged table because if one can play on a GC, Valley, Olhausen etc...etc they should be able to adjust to "x" table.
As for the history of pool tables, the GC's and other pre-80's tables where just tables. That's it. Some of them banked shorter than diamonds, just like some of them banked to long....but again, not a problem, just adjust and move on.
Like you, I LOVE to play pool but, unlike some, I love to play pool on "all" tables.
Jeff
Nothing helps relaxation like a little
one pocket on an nice old brunswick.
The players are just o.k.
https://youtu.be/LrIxePj2lZA
one pocket on an nice old brunswick.
The players are just o.k.
https://youtu.be/LrIxePj2lZA
Nothing helps relaxation like a little
one pocket on an nice old brunswick.
The players are just o.k.
https://youtu.be/LrIxePj2lZA
GC3, no Simonis cloth.
https://youtu.be/4niYd9ccsQw?t=123
Banking on GC 3 as taught by a world champion coach.
You're welcome.
Banking on GC 3 as taught by a world champion coach.
You're welcome.
Err, no.
He's banking it hard.
This table must be banking short too then.
https://youtu.be/zP9onmjoAIs?t=72
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Yes!!!!! Finally something worth reading
Go back and watch the video again, he point blank told you it was banking a 1/4" diamond short, and therefore how to compensate for it!!!
I swear to god some people just don't get it. Cloth being used today has changed everything about how a pool table plays. And all the players before the mid 80's know the difference between then and now. But these players today than never played on a woven wool cloth, do nothing but blame the pool tables for their inability to adjust.
Your 10000000% right
The fast cloth has f*cked pool up. And there’s no reversing that cancer. KT tried but he used bad cloth. Mali or Stevens 21oz cloth and it’s a new day. There would be a huge shift in who’s “Fargo” rating is the highest. I’m just getting started, I’ll put my soap box away now.