Proud Professionals
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Blackjack said:
I can make a bunch of these and set it up for you to sell them on a website - any color you want. Let me know if you're interested and I can help you out with it.
I have always wondered why a guy with a great past and great nickname doesnt have a product line out there.
On the shirt I would place the logo on the back and on the front place
Keith "Earthquake" McCready says that......
I think Earthquake Towels and other items would do well also. Great marketable nickname and in pool its an easy link to Keith.
Unfortunately Louie is dead or I would have my proof. He told me & others personally the truth.
And I respect the other poster too much to get them involved.
Nice post card. Earl looks jolly.
Enough said. Concentrate on getting a tour together for the Professionals of the world.
I spoke to Justin today about it & he is excited about it, awaiting more details.
And I respect the other poster too much to get them involved.
Nice post card. Earl looks jolly.
Enough said. Concentrate on getting a tour together for the Professionals of the world.
I spoke to Justin today about it & he is excited about it, awaiting more details.
watchez said:
Hmm, that's strange. About 6 years ago, you stated it was a good friend of Louie's who told you. Now you change your story, 6 years later on this thread. Do you suffer from memory problems, too?
watchez said:
Because it is a lie. When you lie, it is difficult to provide evidence of proof. That's a given.
watchez said:
It is not my job to get a tour together for the professionals of the world.
If I were to take on any job, it would be to get the professional pool player to the tour in one piece.
watchez said:
Is that supposed to impress me? Well, it doesn't.
JAM
watchez said:
That's right. There is no change in that you are a liar. It is a lie because those who were there are still alive and can provide the truth; the facts, if you will.
BTW, how old were you in 1985? That is when the movie was filmed.
watchez said:
I'm not a legal secretary and I am not an attorney, but I can recognize a liar who posts words that are absolutely false with no foundational base.
JAM
watchez said:
Oh, man, you just woke up a sleeping giant. Keith wants to respond to your lie, once and for all. What a damn shame that most times when he comes on this forum, it's responding to negativity posted by liars, trolls, and crackpots.
If your good name was being dragged in the mud, you'd understand why he wants to respond, but you don't have a good name.
JAM
Keith McCready
Pro Player
watchez said:
One more time, Watchez. You got all the facts wrong, and so does your friend, whoever your friend is, the mystery man.
Just for your information about Louie playing the character of Grady Seasons, Louie auditioned for the movie, but had no chance of getting the part. The two main characters that were going to get the part were Mike Sigel and Keith McCready, me. Mike Sigel was trying to knock me out of the box for that part, but he didn't get there. All those people in line in Chicago that tried to audition, to include Louie, Jim Mataya as well, got nothing. They were extras. They were in the floating tank, if you know what that means. You probably don't, so it doesn't matter.
I wanted to play Amos in the movie, but the casting director had already penned me in to play Grady Seasons. When she saw me gambling with Efren Reyes at the U.S. Open, that is when they fell in love with me. They knew then that I would be Grady Seasons. When they were interviewing people at the U.S. Open, every single pool player got 5 minutes in the back room. They had me in there for 3 hours straight.
Please quit spreading these rumors about me that you have no facts about. I don't like having to respond to you every time you screw up and don't know the facts. So do me a favor. Leave my name out of your conversations, please, until you got something that's a little more accurate or nicer to say. It seems like every time you have something to say about me, you have been wrong or it has been degrading. And I don't know why you get your nuts off trying to degrade me. I wish you'd just go ahead and play me some and stack up some serious money. It wouldn't matter what kind of spot you got because I already know who's got more heart. It woundn't even be close. I'll bet you you're not even nice to wake up to in the morning. It seems like to me, you're a very miserable person.
Good luck to you in the future. Maybe you should go on the Dr. Phil Show and get some help, serious help.
Keith McCready
Pro Player
Blackjack said:
I can make a bunch of these and set it up for you to sell them on a website - any color you want. Let me know if you're interested and I can help you out with it.
Thanks, David, for the great idea and offer. Too bad we didn't have those back in the '80s. They might be collector items today. LOL!
We'll come up with a good plan to launch those. Keep in touch.
Good luck to you too Keith. I am sincere when I say that. I have no hatred for you 'and yours' as you do for me & others on here.
Unfortunately, your roommate is the one that mentioned something that was said 6 years ago. Please find where I mentioned TCOM again & I will apologize for bringing it up first.
Maybe Louie came back from the movie, jealous of your on screen success but that was the story that he told in STL.
Unfortunately, your roommate is the one that mentioned something that was said 6 years ago. Please find where I mentioned TCOM again & I will apologize for bringing it up first.
Maybe Louie came back from the movie, jealous of your on screen success but that was the story that he told in STL.
Jason...I have not read all of this thread, but I think you're a bit unrealistic. Even in Canada, an average "good job" does not pay someone $100K per year. Sure, there are people out there making that kind of money, but it certainly isn't a lot of people. If you look at gov't statistics for here in the U.S., the average mean income is under $50K a year. Professional pool players will wait a LONG time before they are making $100K, let alone $200K...unless they take the direction I did, which is to earn their real living entertaining, and play tournaments on the side.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Jason Robichaud said:
Keith McCready
Pro Player
watchez said:
First of all, I don't hate anybody on here. I just don't like having to post to defend myself. When people are wrong and saying things that are not true about me, it sort of irks me a little bit. This isn't the only time you have stated things about me that were not true, and especially the Louie Roberts story.
I happened to be very, very close to Louie. I was with him 2 days before he died, when he almost jumped off the balcony in a motel room in Las Vegas. I had to save him from doing that, he was so depressed. I was giving him money every night to get back in action because he kept getting broke and getting broke and getting broke, just like I have done many times myself. So I understood. That's what friends do for each other. They help each other out.
Louie was never jealous of me. He always wanted to try to beat me, but he was never jealous. We were gunfighters, me and Louie. We loved to play each other. The only bad thing about that was when I would beat Louie, it'd cost me 300 for a gapper, and when he would beat me, I'd only get 30 because he owed too many backers. It doesn't make him a bad guy, but I guess it could happen to me too. If there's some creditors around that I owe when I win, I guess the gapper is going to be a little shorter than it usually would.
But Louie was very close to me, and me to Louie, all the way to the end of his life. I wish to this day he was still around with that big old smile he had. I used to call him "Little Elvis" because he did look like Elvis.
Keith McCready said:
Sorry Keith, I have to chime in here. So the story can get straight once and for all. I was at the U.S. Open in 1985 when Martin Scorsece and Tom Cruise bounced in. I had met Martin earlier when he came to Caesars Palace tourney to sweat the players.
He introduced me to Cruise, who was a very handsome young man, only 24 years old back then. By the way, he isn't that short, maybe 5'9". He stands up rock straight. I sat for two days in the stands with Marty and Tom sweating the action and answering their questions. Tom is a very bright guy and asked a lot of good questions. Marty wanted to get into the back room and sweat the real action, so I talked to Barry and we got them in.
Marty and Tom hung on the wall like flies for hours watching Keith play Danny Medina. They were totally captivated by this outrageous character (Keith) who was playing great pool and talking a mile a minute. Marty asked me all kinds of questions about Keith. Where he lived, how to get ahold of him etc. etc. I knew they were working on preparations for filming The Color Of Money. And that was about all I knew.
Anyway, we get back to California and within a week or two I start getting phone calls from Barbara Del Fina, Marty's wife and casting director. She is trying to get hold of Keith, and the only contact number they have is mine. So I locate Keith and tell him that they want him to come to Chicago. He isn't that impressed. Keith say to tell them if they want him to send a plane ticket and make a hotel reservation for him. Believe it or not, he gets his wish. They REALLY want Keith!
They overnight a script to me, with the part of Grady Seasons hi-lighted. It's about six lines total. Keith comes over to my house and we read the script together. He doesn't like most of the lines, saying he would never say anything like that. I call Del Fina's office and tell her that Keith doesn't like the lines for Grady Seasons. She talks to Marty and they tell me to write it the way Keith would say it.
So Keith and I rewrite the lines, and put "our" lines in the margin of the script. And Keith heads off to Chicago, pretty much assured of the part, as long as he doesn't freeze up in his audition. And we all know Keith will NEVER dog it! Naturally he gets the part. Marty loves him! He ends up working extra days and gets more lines. By the way, the lines we wrote were used as is. The rest is history.
Okay Keith, is this all true or not?
One last thing. I loved Louie too, VERY MUCH! He and Keith are my two all time favorites. Both are true American originals. I am still sad when I think about my dear friend Louie. He had more charisma in his little finger then most "stars" have in their whole body. But for the part of Grady Seasons, it belonged to Keith!
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Scott Lee said:
Thats why I put a good living and not average. I think a professional athlete should make a good living if they can do something others can't. $100,000 takes more than a regular job, it take a good one. It isn't unrealistic, you didn't read it properly.
JAM said:We recently tried to do a show at Walter Reed Army Medical Hospital, but right at the time we tried to approach them with a pool exhibition concept, the veterans had a controversial happening which made front-page news. It kind of shut the communication down, as other things were more important, like getting the veterans decent quarters.
Every Christmas, we go to a local nursing home and hang out with the residents, and Keith has done several charity pool tournaments within driving distance to our home.
When I first joined this forum, Blackjack, I offered to send to the first 10 responders a free autographed picture of Keith at Christmas time, trying to connect with the pool fan base on this forum. I received quite a few PMs stating they really would love to have a picture of Keith. I sent out 133 of them at a cost of 7 bucks apiece. The Postal Priority cost $3.75, I think at that time.
Shortly thereafter, a poster stated that these were probably all fake and that they were worthless. It really hurt my feelings, after all the trouble, time, and expense we went to sending them out.
There comes a time when you can only expend so much money, Blackjack, speaking as a pool player household.
The tournament trail was a financial burden. I now know that in the United States, you have to pick your tournaments wisely.
I am still working on other American pool-related projects, when time allows. When I'm done, I think it will be worth my time and effort. Satifaction of a job well done will be my payoff. And it will be a job well done to the best of my ability.
JAM
Blacjack, it is so funny you have just mentioned what you just implied. I talk w/ K everyday, we play online poker together. We are very close and we usally try to keep both our spirits up being I am not doing well. I have mentioned the same exact thing to him two days ago, its crazy. You are right though, I told him use what you were gifted with, your "MOUTH" lol. Anyway on a more serious note I hope he even thinks about what we talked about.
Later,
Frankie
Keith McCready
Pro Player
jay helfert said:
Okay, Jay. I love you and everything, but you're missing something.
If you don't recall, I was a 3 game dog that night playing Efren. We were both 4 and oh in the pool tournament. Prior 3 weeks to that, I lose about 25- to 30,000 to Efren gambling in L.A. and another spot.
I bet about 20-some hundred on myself, being a 3 game dog to Efren, and beat him 11 to 4 in the U.S. Open. Then I turned around and gambled with him playing one-pocket. We were betting like 1200 to 1600 a game. Martin, Cruise, and Gretchen Renell the casting director were there sweating it. You might have been there with them. I can't believe you don't remember that. I beat him 5 ot 6 games in a row. He was giving me 9 to 7 and 10 to 7 playing one-pocket, and I drilled him.
After he quit me, I was so mad because he had me so much loser, it was a joke, but I was happy I beat him and got a little revenge.
Then I was called in the back office to start reading lines for several hours. Do you remember that, Jay?
As far as me playing Danny Medina, what were we playing? Were we playing in a tournament, or were we gambling? Me and Danny didn't ever gamble that much, so it must have been a tournament. Was me playing Danny at the Caeser's Palace tourney that you are referring to? That might have been, but I definitely remember me playing Efren right there in Norfolk in front of the movie people and everybody else.
Thank goodness you were there to answer the phone when the movie people were looking for me. If that hadn't happened, I might not have gotten the part. We both remember that, don't we? I did want to change the lines. You're right, but it was all scripted, with a few ad libs of mine, i.e., "You got lucky, you luckly little pr*ck." LOL!
Anyway, Jay, good to hear from you. I don't usually post much on these websites, but I felt I needed to do a little damage control when parties get on here and write about matters when they weren't even there.
I've got to ask you this, though. Did you fall asleep when I was playing Efren, or you just don't remember?