Rob, he is on his way here tonight. I will ask him to give me the $350 to send to you. Once again, please read my original post one more time (#46). It's pretty clear that I NEVER excused Dennis' actions and did not "blame" it on American players. I told him that he was wrong for quitting like that and he should have either played out the match or made a more reasonable settlement with you.
I want to ask you one thing Rob. Why did you settle for $150 and not more? Did you just do that so you could come on here and castigate Dennis? It is beginning to appear that way to me. If you two had settled for $500 would you have felt the need to post about this on here?
You can continue your harsh tone with me if it makes you feel better. I was only trying to resolve a bad situation on your and Dennis' behalf. You seem to feel the need to twist my offer to you and make me look like the villain too.
As far as I'm concerned you should never have pulled the bet down from the light if you wanted him to continue. The money should have remained posted until you two had either made a settlement or continued. You grabbing the money showed bad intentions but someone made you have second thoughts and you gave Dennis back most of his money. You're no angel Rob so don't try to portray yourself as Mr. Innocent. Your reputation is well known in the pool community.
Jay, Dennis breaking down his cue and putting it away and refusing to play was just a total shark move by Dennis and let me reiterate once again. I offered to let him buyout for $ 500 when he first said he quits and wanted his money back an he said NO he wants all his money back. EVERYONE of the pros in the room said the same thing and said he forfeited. You saying that I should never take the money down and just let Dennis do whatever he wants just shows everyone that you will say anything to stick up for Dennis.
As I already said Jay.. Dennis and I can play a race to 25 at Derby City for $ 20,000 the same way and you can see first hand what chance he has... ZERO!! Let me make this clear to you.. The only person in the room that thought Dennis should get a settlement and not forfeit all the money was a kid from detroit who didn't want to pay off a $ 100 side bet. My backer was mad at me when I offered and gave Dennis the $ 150 buyout after he cried and whined in the hallway.
Even the pros that bet on Dennis (you know Jay the other guys you rub elbows with) said Dennis had forfeited and didn't deserve a dime. All I know is Scott Frost, Corey Duell, Shane Van Boening and Ronnie Wiseman all said the same thing... it was just a creepy move he pulled and everyone of them said the same thing once he pulled that move their is no way you can finish the set. Dennis was told 3 times, not once or twice that if he didn't finish the set he was forfeiting. After the first and second time I warned him everyone in the room was yelling that he forfeited, take the money, that set is over.. It was only after the 3rd and final time that I decided to take the money down and than your little angel Dennis couldn't get his cue back together fast enough. Dennis knew he had no chance to win so he figured pulling this shark move he had nothing to lose.
It is common knowledge to all the pro players that you root for the Philipinos against the american players. Maybe you should move to the Philipines. The reason I settled for $150 because he was making a spectacle of himself in the hallway begging and crying. He was saying it is not his money, please only take $ 100.
What you don't comprehend Jay is that you paying the $ 350 settlement for Dennis doesn't accomplish anything if it is not Dennis' money. If I just wanted the money I would have taken the whole $ 1000 like everyone was telling me to do and if it was your money you would have been shit out of luck.. PERIOD!! You were not there Jay but you are talking like you were.
By the way you say you didn't blame it on american players, yet your first post in this thread you said american players had quit on Dennis so he learned it from us. You must have a short memory. All the pros said this opens up a whole can of worms whenever Dennis is playing someone now. It opens the door for other players to do the same move to Dennis in the future.
Let me ask you this Jay.. If Dennis and Shane are playing a race to 21 9 ball and you are staking Dennis for $ 10,000 and its 20 to 20 and Dennis is breaking and Shane wants to quit are you going to let him?
Finally are you looking for Dennis to do the right thing or are you just trying to be a hero? If its not Dennis' money it doesnt mean anything. The reason im aggravated about the situation is Dennis acted like a wise ass to me and 6 other people afterwards in the hallway. I guess he learned that part hanging around you.
Its real simple Jay... its a yes Dennis gave you the money to send or no Dennis doesn't want to. If you come on here and say Dennis gave you the money to send I will start a thread saying how after you talked to dennis and explained everything to him he realized he was wrong and made good on a proper settlement. If he doesn't it just means he doesn't give a shit and he will probably try to pull the move again and you will try to bail him out again.
I think you and I need to have a sit down the next time I see you and clear everything up and Im not talking about this situation with Dennis.
, maybe he just lost his cool - not for me to assume conclusively.
