Question for sellers...
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Bamacues said:
It's a case by case judgement call. It is up to you to decide whether or not to give a few hours to think it over by saying "Ok" or by saying "OK, but if another offer comes in, I will have to take it".
If you do give the first buyer a few hours, then you can give the second buyer a "second option" and let them know the first buyer has two hours to get back to you, then notify the first buyer they have two hours.
Nothing sells a cue quicker twice than saying "someone else looks like they'tre taking it". I've bought cues that way, on a second option basis and I was OK with it. In fact, it actually increased my desire to own the cue knowing someone else wanted it too.
Chris
From a Different Perspective
Seller Y was offering a cue at X dollars. I PM'd him, offered X - 50 dollars and left for work. He PM'd me back a couple hours later offering the cue at X - 50 plus shipping. I accepted the offer when I returned from work only to that the cue was sold to someone else while I was at work. I was PO'd until I thought about it from his end. I hadn't accepted his offer yet so he was free to continue dealing the cue. I'm still PO'd I didn't get the cue, but then it is more about the ones that got away, isn't it?
Seller Y was offering a cue at X dollars. I PM'd him, offered X - 50 dollars and left for work. He PM'd me back a couple hours later offering the cue at X - 50 plus shipping. I accepted the offer when I returned from work only to that the cue was sold to someone else while I was at work. I was PO'd until I thought about it from his end. I hadn't accepted his offer yet so he was free to continue dealing the cue. I'm still PO'd I didn't get the cue, but then it is more about the ones that got away, isn't it?
A seller with integrity
Joe, the fact that you even have posed this question tells me a lot about the kind of businessman you are .... I just wish there were more sellers like you. I have bought three cues from you so far and will not hesitate to buy a fourth??? Hint, hint
I'm looking for a Jensen.
Joe, the fact that you even have posed this question tells me a lot about the kind of businessman you are .... I just wish there were more sellers like you. I have bought three cues from you so far and will not hesitate to buy a fourth??? Hint, hint
I'm looking for a Jensen.
Did you say Jensen????
Just so happens that I have one of those that I was keeping back for just this kind of emergency...PM sent...
Joe
jmonche said:Joe, the fact that you even have posed this question tells me a lot about the kind of businessman you are .... I just wish there were more sellers like you. I have bought three cues from you so far and will not hesitate to buy a fourth??? Hint, hint
Just so happens that I have one of those that I was keeping back for just this kind of emergency...PM sent...
Joe
obligation
IMO Joe, a sale is never obligated until BOTH parties agree on a price, and its taken from there...Anything more than that, is the seller going above and beyond reasonable expectations. For example: Just because someone says they'd LIKE TO BUY something, that's not a commitment until its agreed upon. I recently had a situation where I was offered X amount of $$ for a cue after not getting what I originally wanted, right here on AZB, so I accepted it. The buyer tells me they'd have to mail me out a money order, which I gladly waited on and saved the cue for him...It turns out they NEVER mailed me any money order, and when I waited over 1 week to get it, I contacted them about the $$...The "buyer" tells me something like they changed their mind or something, and not only did I miss out on THAT sale, I also missed out on taking the cue to a big tourney in my area and trying to sell it there. Needless to say I was a little po'd about what they had done, so from now on I'll NOT consider something sold until the money is in either my hand or my paypal account. The "moral" of my little rant is money talks, B/S walks...Money is king and something is only sold to the first person to come up with enough to purchase an item, anyone else is too late. Now, if you KNOW someone and want to "hold" something for them cause' you know they're good on their word, then you're being nice and going beyond reasonable expectations there, but most people change their minds quite often, so unless I KNOW you personally, I'll never "hold" anything again. Just MHO
IMO Joe, a sale is never obligated until BOTH parties agree on a price, and its taken from there...Anything more than that, is the seller going above and beyond reasonable expectations. For example: Just because someone says they'd LIKE TO BUY something, that's not a commitment until its agreed upon. I recently had a situation where I was offered X amount of $$ for a cue after not getting what I originally wanted, right here on AZB, so I accepted it. The buyer tells me they'd have to mail me out a money order, which I gladly waited on and saved the cue for him...It turns out they NEVER mailed me any money order, and when I waited over 1 week to get it, I contacted them about the $$...The "buyer" tells me something like they changed their mind or something, and not only did I miss out on THAT sale, I also missed out on taking the cue to a big tourney in my area and trying to sell it there. Needless to say I was a little po'd about what they had done, so from now on I'll NOT consider something sold until the money is in either my hand or my paypal account. The "moral" of my little rant is money talks, B/S walks...Money is king and something is only sold to the first person to come up with enough to purchase an item, anyone else is too late. Now, if you KNOW someone and want to "hold" something for them cause' you know they're good on their word, then you're being nice and going beyond reasonable expectations there, but most people change their minds quite often, so unless I KNOW you personally, I'll never "hold" anything again. Just MHO
When you say the 1st potential buyer was upset, he was probably more upset with himself and taking it out on you.
When I make an offer on a cue, I usually offer the maximum that I would be willing to pay. If the seller comes back with a counter offer I usually decline and later sometimes they will meet my original offer. Every once in a while I kick myself because I didn't come up with a few hundred dollars more and buy the cue. I am not mad at the seller, just at myself!
I think you absolutely did the right thing, if it was me I wouldn't of contacted the first buyer I would of sold the cue to the 2nd buyer. When you negotiate on anything you risk taking too much time and loosing the item, this is just a fact of life.
When I make an offer on a cue, I usually offer the maximum that I would be willing to pay. If the seller comes back with a counter offer I usually decline and later sometimes they will meet my original offer. Every once in a while I kick myself because I didn't come up with a few hundred dollars more and buy the cue. I am not mad at the seller, just at myself!
I think you absolutely did the right thing, if it was me I wouldn't of contacted the first buyer I would of sold the cue to the 2nd buyer. When you negotiate on anything you risk taking too much time and loosing the item, this is just a fact of life.
Obligations of a Seller
I think the seller is obligated to do what he agrees to do. If you tell someone, they own it, then they own it. If you tell someone you'll hold it for a day, hour, minute, while they "think", then you are obligated to do that. If you offer someone a price and they say they need to think, you are obligated only to let them think, certainly not to hold the item for some unsaid amount of time. I know from experience as a seller, "let me think" means whatever the buyer might think he means when he says it, but what it really means 95% of the time is "no sale", and I'll bet if the seller in this case has responded to the "let me think" by saying he would hold the cue for some amount of time, this buyer would have told him don't go to the trouble. Its often only the actual sale of the item that turns the thinker back into a wannabe buyer.
I think the seller is obligated to do what he agrees to do. If you tell someone, they own it, then they own it. If you tell someone you'll hold it for a day, hour, minute, while they "think", then you are obligated to do that. If you offer someone a price and they say they need to think, you are obligated only to let them think, certainly not to hold the item for some unsaid amount of time. I know from experience as a seller, "let me think" means whatever the buyer might think he means when he says it, but what it really means 95% of the time is "no sale", and I'll bet if the seller in this case has responded to the "let me think" by saying he would hold the cue for some amount of time, this buyer would have told him don't go to the trouble. Its often only the actual sale of the item that turns the thinker back into a wannabe buyer.
My Half Cents Worth.. hehe..
That all depends on how the conversation ended. When he said I'll get back to you, Did you give him a time period to reply by? If you did then I think you are obligated to wait until that specified time for a reply. If you didn't then the cue is still up for grabs. It's his own fault for not asking for time and getting a confirmation about it. When this happens to me I tell them they have one day to let me know something or it goes back up for sale. If I get offers during that time period I tell them they are next in line and will know something by that specified time of when the cue is available again. You did nothing wrong if you didn't tell the guy he has until (Your Specified Time) to give you an answer. I sometimes understand these people. They want something but need to check and see if they can afford it, or if they can get the cash in time. In the end if no agreement to wait until such time was stated then it's still available. Just what I think.. Right or wrong..
Thanks,
Josh Hillard
Bamacues said:
That all depends on how the conversation ended. When he said I'll get back to you, Did you give him a time period to reply by? If you did then I think you are obligated to wait until that specified time for a reply. If you didn't then the cue is still up for grabs. It's his own fault for not asking for time and getting a confirmation about it. When this happens to me I tell them they have one day to let me know something or it goes back up for sale. If I get offers during that time period I tell them they are next in line and will know something by that specified time of when the cue is available again. You did nothing wrong if you didn't tell the guy he has until (Your Specified Time) to give you an answer. I sometimes understand these people. They want something but need to check and see if they can afford it, or if they can get the cash in time. In the end if no agreement to wait until such time was stated then it's still available. Just what I think.. Right or wrong..
Thanks,
Josh Hillard