Ruling body to launch inquiry after allegations of match-fixing

chamillionare said:
wow you can google so you think that tells you the full story if i wanted to defend myself i would never have got banned worse case bringing game into disrupute 6 months max that is solicitors verdict as i had solid defence which no one knows because i just chose to end an ugly chapter of my life. so 35k solicitors fee's and then i can continue on a tour with no money. when 6 months earlier id already told everyone i was only playing the world title next year as id had enough. in hindsight the ban was the best thing to ever happen to me as all i did was complain about the game.

as for playing iv been invited to lots of pool tournaments last few years, if there is ipt type tournaments id play not really for the money but because i wouldnt feel like im totally wasting my time, its not rocket science i make more money now with no hassles than when i played snooker. even when i was making 200k a year at snooker i still hated playing and would not practise i dont like the game and i never kept it a secret

i cant tell you about match fixing $ but the fight with the snooker player made me 40k plus more money from tabloid stories. then another 25k with an irish footballer and i had more fun with that than any snooker tourny. i soold my ferrari v12 merc and million dollor apartment in london and moved back into my mansion in australia so why would i want to play anymore i dont need to


you are a wanker watchez
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You're losing points fast Q Dog!
 
smashmouth said:
lol, do you even know who chamillionaire is Fatboy? I'd be very carefull contradicting him on this issue

alot of you guys needs to pay attention when a pro like Quenten Hann gets on here and offers his insight

he knows more about snooker than anyone here
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And less about life than most anyone on here as well!
 
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Colin Colenso said:
Qunten's got a way of rubbing people up the wrong way because he just speaks his mind, but he came here to tell people what is really going on behind the scenes. This is how it works and until someone is playing the game for their living I think it is quite presumptious for them to be taking the high road.

Blaming dumping for pool not being a big sport? I think that's a big reach. Did the bad reputation of poker players stop that sport? Sure gambling can bring more exposure to a sport, but sports like tennis and golf didn't become major sports because the bookies were so pleased with them.

If the bookies don't like the action then they don't have to offer bets. If players want to get through round robin qualifiers they know they better win their early games or their chances grow increasingly short.

And btw: Snooker became a big sport not because of gambling or a lack of dumping. When there is big prizemoney there is less incentive to dump. With prizemoney shrinking to about a 1/3 of its former glory, the odds are changing for the players.

Like it or not, that's what's going on. Don't be shooting the messenger.

Colin
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Excellent post Colin. You are so much more informative and sensible sounding OUTSIDE an "aiming system" thread. LOL :)

Merry Christmas Mate

Dick <-----thinks he knows what 'wanker' means, but is not sure.

P.S. Am I a "wanker" too, or just Watchez ?
 
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jay helfert said:
You're losing points fast Q Dog!
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Only with some Jay. With others, although not surprising, he seems to be gaining points.

Here is a translation of today's public forum opinion - all pros, no matter what the sport, should be free from living their life from the same moral standard, laws, and ethics as the rest of the world. They are to be treated more like the USA treats ambassadors from a foreign nation - above the law. It is the general public, civilians if you will, that work 40-50-60 hours a week that don't realize that the people that are these pros can have the ends justify the means. Pete Rose, Shoeless Joe Johnson, John "Hot Rod" Williams, Danny Almonte, Barry Bonds, Tim Donaghy, Ben Johnson, Marion Jones should all be taught as role models to our young players.

Or another translation - if you can draw your ball, you are not only above the law but you can also enforce the law when you see fit.
 
smashmouth said:
Quenten's departure from the game was a HUGE loss to the sport of snooker, again, this goes to the old geezers running the show imo

the public loved him, or loved to hate him, either way he was probably the biggest draw outside Ronnie
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I hope he continues to contribute to this forum.

I would much rather read his posts than those from "wankers." :grin-square:

This forum is a better place when there are posts from players of all caliber, especially from those who live down under. :smile:

While some folks can only sit on the sidelines and watch, like myself, there are others who actually can walk the walk and talk the talk. Come back, Quinten, and post some. Don't be shy! :smile:
 
JAM said:
I hope he continues to contribute to this forum.

I would much rather read his posts than those from "wankers." :grin-square:

This forum is a better place when there are posts from players of all caliber, especially from those who live down under. :smile:

While some folks can only sit on the sidelines and watch, like myself, there are others who actually can walk the walk and talk the talk. Come back, Quinten, and post some. Don't be shy! :smile:
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Quinten apparently isn't tough enough to fade the heat. He was entertaining and brought another unique perspective to the forum.
JoeyA
 
jay helfert said:
I didn't make a bet on anyone. To me that is a big no no when you are the TD. Some TD's have done it but I won't. It is true that I have staked players in tournaments I directed. In cases like those, I want someone other than me to call hits in their matches. If I have to call a hit, I make sure 'my' player knows ahead of time that I have no qualms about calling a foul on them.
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Jay, my good friend, I had hoped that you would take my statement purely as a joke. Myself and others that know you feel that you would respect your position as TD. Merry Christmas, your friend Frank
 
wallets said:
Pool is a roach motel.
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coming home after some serious xmas partying this really made me laugh i know your prob a big fan lol and aimed this at me but i still love it check me in man im here to stay

merry xmas and happy new year everyone :)
 
SJDinPHX said:
Excellent post Colin. You are so much more informative and sensible sounding OUTSIDE an "aiming system" thread. LOL :)

Merry Christmas Mate

Dick <-----thinks he knows what 'wanker' means, but is not sure.

P.S. Am I a "wanker" too, or just Watchez ?
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Cheers Dick,

We're all wankers to some degree, so I guess that includes you ;)

Merry Christmas to you and all fellow forum readers....except of course the mega wankers ;)

Colin
 
jay helfert said:
You're losing points fast Q Dog!
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Jay,
I don't think anyone would accuse Quinten of being a master of politics, but he is, imho, one of the greatest natural talents that billiard sports has ever seen. And on a personal level, he's a funny and personable guy.

That doesn't allow him a free pass, but I for one sure enjoy getting his insights on certain aspects of the game.

Perhaps I missed earlier conflicts, or am missing something, but the forum battlefield of ideas is a tough one, and many occassional posters fall into hazards and see it as a bit of a pissing match.

I tend to think cutting a bit of slack is a good idea, in the hope that we encourage more people with an expertise in an area some time to get a feel of how best to express their ideas.

To Quinten: You must have enjoyed some aspects of playing, and the interactions within the game, even if snooker was a grind. You wouldn't be here otherwise I suspect. The game is not the be all and end all, but it's something we've enjoyed and been challenged by.

Merry xmas mate...and to you Jay also!

Colin
 
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chamillionare said:
coming home after some serious xmas partying this really made me laugh i know your prob a big fan lol and aimed this at me but i still love it check me in man im here to stay

merry xmas and happy new year everyone :)
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we'll see.:smile:

Merry Christmas
 
Colin Colenso said:
Jay,
I don't think anyone would accuse Quinten of being a master of politics, but he is, imho, one of the greatest natural talents that billiard sports has ever seen. And on a personal level, he's a funny and personable guy.

That doesn't allow him a free pass, but I for one sure enjoy getting his insights on certain aspects of the game.

Perhaps I missed earlier conflicts, or am missing something, but the forum battlefield of ideas is a tough one, and many occassional posters fall into hazards and see it as a bit of a pissing match.

I tend to think cutting a bit of slack is a good idea, in the hope that we encourage more people with an expertise in an area some time to get a feel of how best to express their ideas.

To Quinten: You must have enjoyed some aspects of playing, and the interactions within the game, even if snooker was a grind. You wouldn't be here otherwise I suspect. The game is not the be all and end all, but it's something we've enjoyed and been challenged by.

Merry xmas mate...and to you Jay also!

Colin
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Can you please show me where Quinten posted his expertise that the rest of the pool forum did not know?

Quinten posted that there is dumping in pool and snooker. Gee, this was great insight from someone that has walked the walk. I am glad he was here to provide confirmation of that idea.

Previous Quinten posts prior to this thread were used to belittle and attempt to woof at John Schmidt. Then Quinten fell into the same dialogue he has in this thread - I am so rich and such a great player that I don't have to play anymore.
 
watchez said:
Can you please show me where Quinten posted his expertise that the rest of the pool forum did not know?

Quinten posted that there is dumping in pool and snooker. Gee, this was great insight from someone that has walked the walk. I am glad he was here to provide confirmation of that idea.

Previous Quinten posts prior to this thread were used to belittle and attempt to woof at John Schmidt. Then Quinten fell into the same dialogue he has in this thread - I am so rich and such a great player that I don't have to play anymore.
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Pardon me for not scouring through his every post looking for interesting tidbits. I suspect there's a few.

I expect there would be a few more if it weren't for the few who see an opportunity in attacking the flaws in great players as a means of getting one up on them.

I'm not suggesting we be sychophants, I suggest respondents be more conciliatory. We'd have more pros posting here if that were the norm.

Colin
 
Colin Colenso said:
Pardon me for not scouring through his every post looking for interesting tidbits. I suspect there's a few.

I expect there would be a few more if it weren't for the few who see an opportunity in attacking the flaws in great players as a means of getting one up on them.

I'm not suggesting we be sychophants, I suggest respondents be more conciliatory. We'd have more pros posting here if that were the norm.

Colin
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Well said Colin. There are those who frequent this site, who are very quick to point out the flaws in all of us, banger's and pro's alike.
Yet they somehow manage to overlook their own shortcomings.(or choose to ignore them.)
You have shown that you do not fall into their trap, and make appropriate responses that, many times, seem to sail right over their heads.
I myself, have been guilty of trying to bait an opposing viewpoint into a flame war, where there is NO winner.
It's great to have someone as grounded as you, standing up for your beliefs, without offending anyone. I wish there were more poster's with your sensible, yet not condescending way, of making your point.
FWIW, it would make a much more enjoyable place to visit and exchange thoughts.
Dick
 
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Didnt need to be there

jay helfert said:
I talk about it in Pool Wars. I was the ref, standing right next to the table. ;)
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I didnt even need to be there to know what was happening. I was in a pool room about 4 days before the tourney and was told by a friend who is good friends with one of the players...He told me who they planned on having win before the tourney even started.

Poof--like Magic Mr Lebron won :wink:
 
Do you really know for sure ?

DrawtheRock said:
I didnt even need to be there to know what was happening. I was in a pool room about 4 days before the tourney and was told by a friend who is good friends with one of the players...He told me who they planned on having win before the tourney even started.

Poof--like Magic Mr Lebron won :wink:
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Does stating that you were "in the know" prove anything ? Most losers will cry "foul" without knowing all the facts.
We've all seen questionable things happen in pool. Does it help to perpetuate it by saying what you said ? I think not.
Only the two principles know exactly what happened.
They are the only ones who have to live with their decisions, right or wrong. One (or the other) may never have known that there was any collusion going on. How can you make those statements ?

Dick
 
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In pool, there's nothing more entertaining than someone who talks big shit and can back it up big-time. You guys know that. That's why we keep coming back to this game every day. For that reason alone I'm surprised no one is loving his posts as much as me. Quinten can sure play. He can beat any one on any given day. Doesn't mean he HAS to, but not many are tripping over themselves to get to him that's for sure.

Quinten would prob be a good bet in that pool, poker and pain thing if it ever gets off the ground. In fact, he'd be my horse.
 
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