Sardo rack
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Good question. I was wondering if they are still being made.
Maybe someone here knows, or I can ask one of the Sardo boys next time I see them.
Russ....
Very limited market for these racks.
I agree with Ponytail, the Delta-3 is the best rack out there, and it will last forever.
I like my Sardo.Plus they support the sport.
Yes, everyone knows that the Delta rack is great, but he is not asking about the Delta rack.
He IS asking about the Sardo rack....
Did you read his question??
I see Phil, Tony and Carmine at Plush Pocket one in a while, I will ask them next time I see them.
As I understand, The Sardo Rack was sold off to Mueller's Sporting Goods.
Go out on a limb here, but I think any pro tour goes with who pays them.
I haven't bought a delta 13 because I'm tired of the same old scams.
Its not just pool products I'm tired of any representative smiling and saying somethings great as long as they get a paycheck. Meanwhile they smile and say "I believe in this product, really I love it".
Some people like the Sardo, I bought one and discovered I am not one of them.
I have one I will sell cheap ($10 plus shipping) to anyone who wants to try it.
Many people (like me) do like the Delta-13 better, and that might be part of the reason for the Sardo retreat.
Just get rid of the CLANK sound...
I have one I will sell cheap ($10 plus shipping) to anyone who wants to try it.
Many people (like me) do like the Delta-13 better, and that might be part of the reason for the Sardo retreat.
Just get rid of the CLANK sound...
I will take it. Pm me your paypal.
I have to go play now I will pay you later. Thanks
Where are you shipping from? Consider it sold if it is USA
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The Delta rack CLANK sound can be muted with leather strips inserted in the sides. DELTA has them as a add-on and they DO WORK !
Delta 13 with inserts
The Delta 13 with the leather inserts is as quiet as a wood rack. I went downstairs and compared them. The Delta 13 is the best rack, hands down.
The Delta 13 with the leather inserts is as quiet as a wood rack. I went downstairs and compared them. The Delta 13 is the best rack, hands down.
A friend has A Sardo. He paid over $100. It is cheaply made and real bulky. Rather hard to use and the setting levers broke off. Sardo came out with a cheaper model but I don't think there were any improvements.
The Sardo check for undersize balls, and you have to train or mark your table to get the so called "perfect" rack.
I bought a Delta 13. It can be used on any table and is not bulky. I like the sound. Between the 2 I like it better.
So I agree with the answers from the previous posts to the question of what happened to Sardo.
DELTA 13
The Sardo check for undersize balls, and you have to train or mark your table to get the so called "perfect" rack.
I bought a Delta 13. It can be used on any table and is not bulky. I like the sound. Between the 2 I like it better.
So I agree with the answers from the previous posts to the question of what happened to Sardo.
DELTA 13
Never used a Sardo but I always thought it looked like using a shotgun to kill a canary.
Dave Nelson
Dave Nelson
I am a fan of using a regular old rack and learning how to rack the dang balls. I'm sure the Delta 13 is very nice and will last forever, but I don't even see the need for that. Just learn to rack them, it's not like it's hard.
Having said that, I did go and buy a Sardo rack, because I play with hacks on my home table and I like to have lots of people over. I figured it would be a pain in the butt, which it sort of is, but at least when the rookies were racking against me I would get a decent break.
I set up the Sardo, made the marks on the felt (I cringed while doing it), and decided I would try it out. I racked up 9 ball, grabbed my break stick, and on my very first Sardo 9 ball rack I put the 9 ball home. I completely see why they needed to put the 9 on the spot when using these things.
Having said that, I did go and buy a Sardo rack, because I play with hacks on my home table and I like to have lots of people over. I figured it would be a pain in the butt, which it sort of is, but at least when the rookies were racking against me I would get a decent break.
I set up the Sardo, made the marks on the felt (I cringed while doing it), and decided I would try it out. I racked up 9 ball, grabbed my break stick, and on my very first Sardo 9 ball rack I put the 9 ball home. I completely see why they needed to put the 9 on the spot when using these things.
This is out of stock on the Mueller's website. Was it the remaining stock or also the manufacturing equipment as well? Mueller, Mueller, Mueller, Anyone?
I think sardo went away because it got a bad reputation.
Part of that reputation is unfair imo... part of how the rack works is you intentionally put some dents in the cloth in the racking area. So people thought "oh, so this whole clamp thing is a fake gimmick, what's really giving a tight rack is the dents in the cloth." ... they also thought "I don't want those nasty dents ruining the natural roll of the ball and causing problems when my cue ball stops there".
But I've heard people swear by the thin plastic templates used in the eurotour where they pre-tap all the balls into place. I won't say I've never seen a ball get caught in a dent but it's pretty rare, the dent has to be deep and the ball has to catch it just right, it's like 1 in a million. The tradeoff for that is that the balls settle into place completely frozen, without you having to fight for it. You can finish racking fast and they break great.
We've all occasionally tapped a troublemaker ball into place before, right? And a little known fact is that even if you refuse to tap anything, a dent will always form at the foot spot. The slightly airborne cue ball hammers the 1 ball down into the cloth on every break, so that eventually the foot spot develops a dent and even wears a hole through the paper spot. Since that dent is inevitable, I wonder sometimes if a few more can't hurt.
I think the delta-13 is the best route if you refuse to tap balls into place. Wood and plastic racks can have the sides weakened from people pushing the balls upwards into them. Eventually the weakened sides bulge out a bit and can't form a perfect triangle anymore. The two balls behind the head ball especially refuse to touch each other. You'll find that these racks have to be rotated once or twice to find an alignment where the bulge isn't screwing things up. Some racks have no correct alignment, they're that deformed. The delta solves the problem with common sense... it's metal, it takes a hell of a lot of pushing to deform the side.
Part of that reputation is unfair imo... part of how the rack works is you intentionally put some dents in the cloth in the racking area. So people thought "oh, so this whole clamp thing is a fake gimmick, what's really giving a tight rack is the dents in the cloth." ... they also thought "I don't want those nasty dents ruining the natural roll of the ball and causing problems when my cue ball stops there".
But I've heard people swear by the thin plastic templates used in the eurotour where they pre-tap all the balls into place. I won't say I've never seen a ball get caught in a dent but it's pretty rare, the dent has to be deep and the ball has to catch it just right, it's like 1 in a million. The tradeoff for that is that the balls settle into place completely frozen, without you having to fight for it. You can finish racking fast and they break great.
We've all occasionally tapped a troublemaker ball into place before, right? And a little known fact is that even if you refuse to tap anything, a dent will always form at the foot spot. The slightly airborne cue ball hammers the 1 ball down into the cloth on every break, so that eventually the foot spot develops a dent and even wears a hole through the paper spot. Since that dent is inevitable, I wonder sometimes if a few more can't hurt.
I think the delta-13 is the best route if you refuse to tap balls into place. Wood and plastic racks can have the sides weakened from people pushing the balls upwards into them. Eventually the weakened sides bulge out a bit and can't form a perfect triangle anymore. The two balls behind the head ball especially refuse to touch each other. You'll find that these racks have to be rotated once or twice to find an alignment where the bulge isn't screwing things up. Some racks have no correct alignment, they're that deformed. The delta solves the problem with common sense... it's metal, it takes a hell of a lot of pushing to deform the side.