Selling misconceptions... or do you believe the hype

dave sutton said:
i was talking about gambling u illiterate.

doesnt everyone love how joe compares marks cues collection with his. what a joke. you two arent even close. youre lucky he even talks to you.
i doubt u forgot mare about cues than i know. joey coat tails thats your new name :p :p :p

Illiterate??? You said you robbed and now your admitting it again. So are you trying to tell us all that robbing while gambling is not robbing?

Your a thief... you're new name should be the hamburglar..

JV
 
I don't take first shots?!?!?!?

cornerstone said:
to help clear your clouded judgment, post 19 was a shot at me for posting this a while back http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=51323 and i did not head out of town just got my priortys straight and and spent some great time with my lovley family ,figured I will not entertain the stabbs comming from others. no offense I under stand how it looked . but the first shot came from classic joe! Best wishes and now i will get out of town

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=59337&highlight=quality

You capitalized your wording here to take a swing at Mike.. Its very clear here. This is a guy who has not said one bad thing about you. But its very obvious that your feel threatened with Mike and his business, so you resorted to a comparative dig. WWJD, maybe you should figure it out and act accordingly.

JV
 
classiccues said:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=59337&highlight=quality

You capitalized your wording here to take a swing at Mike.. Its very clear here. This is a guy who has not said one bad thing about you. But its very obvious that your feel threatened with Mike and his business, so you resorted to a comparative dig. WWJD, maybe you should figure it out and act accordingly.

JV


wrong look in my jerry thread u took the first shot there
 
classiccues said:
Illiterate??? You said you robbed and now your admitting it again. So are you trying to tell us all that robbing while gambling is not robbing?

Your a thief... you're new name should be the hamburglar..

JV

joe dont make me break out the old avitar. im sure ur bitter bc u cant play a lick. ur stuck in a buisness you dont have a clue about. im sure u give a song and dance on how u cant sell cues and the both cost too much. youre a broke pos prob collecting unemployment and selling crappy cues out of your trunk and riding marks coat tials from 2 states away.
 
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classiccues said:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=59337&highlight=quality

You capitalized your wording here to take a swing at Mike.. Its very clear here. This is a guy who has not said one bad thing about you. But its very obvious that your feel threatened with Mike and his business, so you resorted to a comparative dig. WWJD, maybe you should figure it out and act accordingly.

JV
Its a comparritive term no swing . where do you get this stuff at?is it medacation?or booze or both. tims cues are high quality!and you cant get to many cues at this quality for this price, from a quality maker! Joe I know I said this last time , But I am done with your sad self! I really hope you find it in your heart to calm down and stop trying to get every ones pantys in a bunch, FREE JIMBO!!!!I wish you and your family the best and i Hope that these childish games stop. it draws people in to say things they shouldnt say! LIKE ME and some of the other many you are always in a battle with.. and NOBODY WINS. thanks to all the people with pms and emails with words of encouragement.and Iam taking a good friends advice (that i look up to ,Thanks Barry S)and signing off and just lurking , God bless you all Joe V included and forgive me for getting involved and letting them get to me, and any one I might have offended. some of the comments make me so angry it consumes me.and make me type things I shouldnt! Being only a man of many faults I dont need to keep adding to them here. So again if i hurt ,offended or disappointed any one my apology is here for the accepting and if you need more My phone is open !
 
dave sutton said:
wrong look in my jerry thread u took the first shot there

What the heck are you talking about? You have no idea where Bill and I are coming from so stick to your Jerry thread.

JV
 
dave sutton said:
joe dont make me break out the old avitar. im sure ur bitter bc u cant play a lick. ur stuck in a buisness you dont have a clue about. im sure u give a song and dance on how u cant sell cues and the both cost too much. youre a broke pos prob collecting unemployment and selling crappy cues out of your trunk and riding marks coat tials from 2 states away.

I play well enough to beat you, out class you and out gamble you. But answer the ?? anytime you feel the need to justify "robbing".

JV
 
cornerstone said:
Its a comparritive term no swing . where do you get this stuff at?is it medacation?or booze or both. tims cues are high quality!and you cant get to many cues at this quality for this price, from a quality maker! Joe I know I said this last time , But I am done with your sad self! I really hope you find it in your heart to calm down and stop trying to get every ones pantys in a bunch, FREE JIMBO!!!!I wish you and your family the best and i Hope that these childish games stop. it draws people in to say things they shouldnt say! LIKE ME and some of the other many you are always in a battle with.. and NOBODY WINS. thanks to all the people with pms and emails with words of encouragement.and Iam taking a good friends advice (that i look up to ,Thanks Barry S)and signing off and just lurking , God bless you all Joe V included and forgive me for getting involved and letting them get to me, and any one I might have offended. some of the comments make me so angry it consumes me.and make me type things I shouldnt! Being only a man of many faults I dont need to keep adding to them here. So again if i hurt ,offended or disappointed any one my apology is here for the accepting and if you need more My phone is open !

Put the violin away pal, there will be no sympathy here. I have also had a few PMs and encouragement. Like for you its been along time coming. God bless anyone you want, when you actually act like a Christian, you'll never read another word from me. But keep the crap up, and I will be there.
It's my belief as dealers we can conduct business in a manner suited for people who sell these items to the people who need or want them without maliciously attacking other dealers. I hardly ever comment about the business practices of any dealer, unless provoked, and constantly deflect inquiries to other sites when I do not have the item that is being looked for. Now I may comment on the knowledge of certain dealers, but you don't need to know a Szamboti from a Mali to be a dealer. You on the other hand take every opportunity to discredit any dealer you can, at any time. It's not just us, you really want this to end, then you know what you need to do. Bill, I have no problems with you except your mouth, you can sell a million dollars of cues a month, good for you, good for the industry, etc... But do not expect to sling crap without it coming back at you. I usually live by the live and let live mantra and for someone to get me off of that, you need to really irk me.
The battles I have no issues with. But when people are firing air barrels, its just annoying. But I'll bite, almost always.

JV (---so I'll pray for you Bill, maybe by some act of God, you'll find the right path, but as a gambler I am betting the other way
 
classiccues said:
I play well enough to beat you, out class you and out gamble you. But answer the ?? anytime you feel the need to justify "robbing".

JV

listen go cash your unemployment check and ask your mommy who im sure u still live with to borrow some money and u know where i am come down to ac and ill show u how good jerrys cues play. you loser
 
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classiccues said:
Put the violin away pal, there will be no sympathy here. I have also had a few PMs and encouragement. Like for you its been along time coming. God bless anyone you want, when you actually act like a Christian, you'll never read another word from me. But keep the crap up, and I will be there.
It's my belief as dealers we can conduct business in a manner suited for people who sell these items to the people who need or want them without maliciously attacking other dealers. I hardly ever comment about the business practices of any dealer, unless provoked, and constantly deflect inquiries to other sites when I do not have the item that is being looked for. Now I may comment on the knowledge of certain dealers, but you don't need to know a Szamboti from a Mali to be a dealer. You on the other hand take every opportunity to discredit any dealer you can, at any time. It's not just us, you really want this to end, then you know what you need to do. Bill, I have no problems with you except your mouth, you can sell a million dollars of cues a month, good for you, good for the industry, etc... But do not expect to sling crap without it coming back at you. I usually live by the live and let live mantra and for someone to get me off of that, you need to really irk me.
The battles I have no issues with. But when people are firing air barrels, its just annoying. But I'll bite, almost always.

JV (---so I'll pray for you Bill, maybe by some act of God, you'll find the right path, but as a gambler I am betting the other way

i know exactly where u and bill are comming from. you should read what u write u hypocrite. u just described yourself to the t. i know joe its not you is EVERYONE else. you have more problems with ppl on here than anyone. bill out sells you, out talks you, proves you wrong and all u can do is attack his religion. you are a hopeless individual who is terrible at his job any worse at living his life. you should just fall off the face of the earth. no one would miss u
 
I've always enjoyed woofing between two players,but the best matches I have ever seen are between two who genuinely abhor the other.
 
8-ball Rat said:
May your healing be quick and painless, Marcus.

I hear ya...and yes, we do agree. I've seen half a dozen cuemaker shops, and each one either made the tip new again....or had spare shafts lying around to try out the cues.

For me, I would almost EXPECT that the expert who built it would take it for a spin, and look/listen for any flaws. How can they know if the cue is right, until it's used in the manner for which it was created to begin with??

I'm tellin' ya, Marcus.....Advil works WONDERS!! :) :)

Be good, and thanks again for the input.
I dont see anything wrong with a test drive on a cue from a cuemaker.To me its like a car,if you have ever bought a new one they have a few miles which is mandatory as they have to be driven and tested,the car is advertised as new though even with 6 or 7 miles.I was also wondering if a cue would be considered new if it had 2 shafts that were never played with and the person used a Predator shaft or whatever on the cue and the butt was still minty,im curious as to what Marcus or anyone thinks about this as its done here and there.
 
dave sutton said:
listen go cash your unemployment check and ask your mommy who im sure u still live with to borrow some money and u know where i am come down to ac and ill show u how good jerrys cues play. you loser

~Yawn~

JV
 
dave sutton said:
i know exactly where u and bill are comming from. you should read what u write u hypocrite. u just described yourself to the t. i know joe its not you is EVERYONE else. you have more problems with ppl on here than anyone. bill out sells you, out talks you, proves you wrong and all u can do is attack his religion. you are a hopeless individual who is terrible at his job any worse at living his life. you should just fall off the face of the earth. no one would miss u

~Yawn~

JV (--- best you got?
 
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Fast Lenny said:
I dont see anything wrong with a test drive on a cue from a cuemaker.To me its like a car,if you have ever bought a new one they have a few miles which is mandatory as they have to be driven and tested,the car is advertised as new though even with 6 or 7 miles.I was also wondering if a cue would be considered new if it had 2 shafts that were never played with and the person used a Predator shaft or whatever on the cue and the butt was still minty,im curious as to what Marcus or anyone thinks about this as its done here and there.

I think there is unchalked mint, and tested mint.The buyer has to be the one who in the end, decides which why he wants to go. I recently had a Mottey that fit your description, the shafts were tested and the butt had some play but no dings. I think you need to just be honest and state it in the ad.

As previous posts pointed out, a lot of cuemakers do shoot with their finished products, so unhit might be not so unhit after all.

JV
 
dave sutton said:
listen go cash your unemployment check and ask your mommy who im sure u still live with to borrow some money and u know where i am come down to ac and ill show u how good jerrys cues play. you loser


I HAVE A ROOM HALF WAY BETWEEN YOU GUYS, YOU WANT TO BACK UP YOUR TALK, THE ROOM IS EASY TO FIND, AND I'M SURE JOE WOULD BE GLAD TO MAKE YOU PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS.
 
classiccues said:
I think there is unchalked mint, and tested mint.The buyer has to be the one who in the end, decides which why he wants to go. I recently had a Mottey that fit your description, the shafts were tested and the butt had some play but no dings. I think you need to just be honest and state it in the ad.

As previous posts pointed out, a lot of cuemakers do shoot with their finished products, so unhit might be not so unhit after all.

JV
I agree that people should be honest in there listings and dealings.I was just wondering if the shafts were never touched and the person used a different shaft on it and played with it but the cue was mint,would it still be 100% but then again who would know,lol.Hey Joe will you be at Port on Tuesday?, hopefully there is action,last week was a wash.
 
BVal said:
It's like two kids on a playground.

Meet me at the bike racks - 3 o'clock.

BVal

NOPE, it's like the Shites and the Sunny's.:confused: Do they KNOW what they're fighten about or are they fighten because they like to fight??

Had a pit bull once.......
 
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ribdoner said:
NOPE, it's like the Shites and the Sunny's.:confused: Do they KNOW what they're fighten about or are they fighten because they like to fight??

Had a pit bull once.......
LOL....I think they just like to fight.


I have a pit bull now
 
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