Setting "traps"

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Push&Pool

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Do you sometimes leave the CB on a specific place on the table with the sole intention to encourage your opponent to shoot exactly what you planned and get himself in trouble. For example, "leaving a ball open" for the opponent only to make him scratch or lock himself up once he takes the bait. Or make him drop the 8 into a wrong hole after the CB bounces off the ball he hit? Or simply giving him a position which doesn't look "too hard" at first, but you know in reality his chances of making the shot are minimal, so he leaves you an open table after he foolishly tries to pocket the OB? I often find myself doing just that: pretending to miss or play a safety, while the CB subtly rolls to the position I chose. It doesn't look obvious so it attracts no attention until it's too late. The opponent often fails to double-check and ends up doing just what I wanted. I've beaten some serious guys that way. What do you say? Do you use such tactics yourself?
 
I never thought about doing it because I don't think I've ever played a semi-serious match in which my opponent was so bad that he/she'd fall for it -- and I play some seriously amateur amateuers.

If you can position the balls that well, why not just play a lock-up safety? Nothing beats BIH.
 
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I use the "chalk mountain" technique.

What you do is chalk your cue over the same spot on the table every chance you get. I usually will observe my opponent first and figure out what is his/her favorite pocket, and then chalk my cue right above the spot on the table in front of the pocket.

Then, you will need to find a reason to push the 8 ball in line with the spot you have been chalking over. Sometimes you might need to use a special cue that is made for finesse shots, other times you made need to power your way in that direction with your special hammer stroke cue.

Once you have created your trap, and the 8 ball is in position, make sure that you have dropped enough chalk into the table to create your own little chalk barrier.

At this point, you can shoot your balls in over as many innings as you would like because there is NO WAY your opponent is going to be able to make that 8 ball over your chalk mountain.

If you are really strategic, which I am sure the OP is, you can actually create chalk mountain ranges and chalk valleys all over the table, which will funnel your balls into the pockets while rejecting the easiest of shots by your opponent.

Master chalk with the flag works best for me, although my extensive research has also shown that Kamui is effective, but you can speed up the process by breaking off little chunks of chalk and laying them (when no one is looking) on the table in front of your opponents balls.

Good luck.
 
Banks said:
Ok, so if you haven't seen a pro in "your country" run a rack, what's serious? You've beaten guys that ran 3 balls? I bet you were just setting up a RAM shot or a scoop shot, you sly devil. :boring2:
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could also be setting up for a "strategic blast" :eek:
 
Push&Pool said:
Do you sometimes leave the CB on a specific place on the table with the sole intention to encourage your opponent to shoot exactly what you planned and get himself in trouble. For example, "leaving a ball open" for the opponent only to make him scratch or lock himself up once he takes the bait. Or make him drop the 8 into a wrong hole after the CB bounces off the ball he hit? Or simply giving him a position which doesn't look "too hard" at first, but you know in reality his chances of making the shot are minimal, so he leaves you an open table after he foolishly tries to pocket the OB? I often find myself doing just that: pretending to miss or play a safety, while the CB subtly rolls to the position I chose. It doesn't look obvious so it attracts no attention until it's too late. The opponent often fails to double-check and ends up doing just what I wanted. I've beaten some serious guys that way. What do you say? Do you use such tactics yourself?
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Just played in a tournament recently with a 3 foul rule. On a couple of racks, I fouled and my opponent immediately tried to get me to foul again by playing some pretty weak safes. Here he has ball in hand and an easy layout and he's trying to 3 foul me with me on one!

I must admit, I thought it was most amusing! After I kicked in a couple of balls,ran out, counter-hooked him, etc., I think he realized it was a bad strategy.

It basically showed he had no confidence in his own runout ability and was used to playing far weaker opponents than me.
 
TATE said:
Just played in a tournament recently with a 3 foul rule. On a couple of racks, I fouled and my opponent immediately tried to get me to foul again by playing some pretty weak safes. Here he has ball in hand and an easy layout and he's trying to 3 foul me with me on one!

I must admit, I thought it was most amusing! After I kicked in a couple of balls,ran out, counter-hooked him, etc., I think he realized it was a bad strategy.

It basically showed he had no confidence in his own runout ability and was used to playing far weaker opponents than me.
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Dont ya love when that happens.... :) I put it up there with the table being wide open and taking taking a flyer at the 9.
Chuck
 
Push&Pool said:
Do you sometimes leave the CB on a specific place on the table with the sole intention to encourage your opponent to shoot exactly what you planned and get himself in trouble. For example, "leaving a ball open" for the opponent only to make him scratch or lock himself up once he takes the bait. Or make him drop the 8 into a wrong hole after the CB bounces off the ball he hit? Or simply giving him a position which doesn't look "too hard" at first, but you know in reality his chances of making the shot are minimal, so he leaves you an open table after he foolishly tries to pocket the OB? I often find myself doing just that: pretending to miss or play a safety, while the CB subtly rolls to the position I chose. It doesn't look obvious so it attracts no attention until it's too late. The opponent often fails to double-check and ends up doing just what I wanted. I've beaten some serious guys that way. What do you say? Do you use such tactics yourself?
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Why waste your shot on playing a trap when you could just use the Ram shot? Tsk tsk you're slipping.
 
Save us someone please start talking about aiming systems or
does that only work in the JB threads???
 
MahnaMahna said:
I use the "chalk mountain" technique.

What you do is chalk your cue over the same spot on the table every chance you get. I usually will observe my opponent first and figure out what is his/her favorite pocket, and then chalk my cue right above the spot on the table in front of the pocket.

Then, you will need to find a reason to push the 8 ball in line with the spot you have been chalking over. Sometimes you might need to use a special cue that is made for finesse shots, other times you made need to power your way in that direction with your special hammer stroke cue.

Once you have created your trap, and the 8 ball is in position, make sure that you have dropped enough chalk into the table to create your own little chalk barrier.

At this point, you can shoot your balls in over as many innings as you would like because there is NO WAY your opponent is going to be able to make that 8 ball over your chalk mountain.

If you are really strategic, which I am sure the OP is, you can actually create chalk mountain ranges and chalk valleys all over the table, which will funnel your balls into the pockets while rejecting the easiest of shots by your opponent.

Master chalk with the flag works best for me, although my extensive research has also shown that Kamui is effective, but you can speed up the process by breaking off little chunks of chalk and laying them (when no one is looking) on the table in front of your opponents balls.

Good luck.
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You've got a lot of nerve. The hustler secrets are sacrosanct. To post this on a public forum is an insult to every hustler that gave their lives to this game.
 
NYC cue dude said:
You've got a lot of nerve. The hustler secrets are sacrosanct. To post this on a public forum is an insult to every hustler that gave their lives to this game.
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You must have missed it, Randy. CJ has already spilled the beans in his latest DVD.
 
Push&Pool said:
Do you sometimes leave the CB on a specific place on the table with the sole intention to encourage your opponent to shoot exactly what you planned and get himself in trouble. For example, "leaving a ball open" for the opponent only to make him scratch or lock himself up once he takes the bait. Or make him drop the 8 into a wrong hole after the CB bounces off the ball he hit? Or simply giving him a position which doesn't look "too hard" at first, but you know in reality his chances of making the shot are minimal, so he leaves you an open table after he foolishly tries to pocket the OB? I often find myself doing just that: pretending to miss or play a safety, while the CB subtly rolls to the position I chose. It doesn't look obvious so it attracts no attention until it's too late. The opponent often fails to double-check and ends up doing just what I wanted. I've beaten some serious guys that way. What do you say? Do you use such tactics yourself?
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I do it on a break sometimes, say stripes are a much better option because solids have some clustering in places but i donr have a shot on stripes, ill put then in a spot where they have an easy solids shot but cant see any stripes. They always do it, clear some balls off the table, usually fail to break up the bad spots, then i get on the tabke with a nice layout and half theur balls out of my way
 
CJ has already spilled the beans in his latest DVD.
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Ah, Touch of Inside Chalk Banking 31 Degrees. Yes?

The first 15 buyers will get absolutely Free, one Mary Avalina trick Shot DVD. Regular price, 89 cents.
 
Leaving a bait ball is common in 1p, though it does backfire sometimes.

You make a shooter shoot and you get burned somestimes
 
Only to low level Apa players lol to a good player I'm gonna play safe because there not gonna fall for stupid stuff. They're not gonna try to get out if the out isn't there.
 
Traps !

Rat-traps work good ! just stick 'em in front of the pockets and wait for the S-N-A-P !
Bear-traps don't work. They too big and e-1 notices unless you can successfully divert their attention. ;)
 
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