I did at first, and edited it. Apparently didn't do a very good job of it.
But, I still wanted to "state my case" for certain others on here that do feel that anyone that dares disagree with a pro is bullying the pro.
Shane Van Boening on Bullying
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I did at first, and edited it. Apparently didn't do a very good job of it.
But, I still wanted to "state my case" for certain others on here that do feel that anyone that dares disagree with a pro is bullying the pro.
Neil, I'm so very sorry for the misunderstanding. I meant to write "bullied by", not "bullying". I should proof read my posts better. I'll go back and edit that immediately. CJ is the bully here, and I find it funny that back in the fall he was hiding behind the screen name "cjssecrets4u2" while accusing you, Pat, Lou, Sean, Scott and others of not identifying yourselves.
I did at first, and edited it. Apparently didn't do a very good job of it.
Lots of editing going on around here, my friend. Hope we're good now.
Lots of editing going on around here, my friend. Hope we're good now.
Yep, no problem.
been there
I started third grade a few days or weeks late after moving from the country to the city. I had a speech defect probably partially due to my own hearing issues not found until years later and starting school late the focus was on me. I fought every day of the third grade and quite a bit more. When I started drinking and playing pool at fifteen it was just a given when trouble started I would almost always be the one that swung first. When you are alone against odds or simply outclassed a bit in size and strength it is the way to go.
I broke the first pool stick when I was in a low dive just after turning fifteen and the much larger man trying to rob me of a day's wages($9 dollars!) got the point. After that I broke a lot of house sticks leaving places in the next couple of years until I got a little smoother dealing with people gambling.
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I started third grade a few days or weeks late after moving from the country to the city. I had a speech defect probably partially due to my own hearing issues not found until years later and starting school late the focus was on me. I fought every day of the third grade and quite a bit more. When I started drinking and playing pool at fifteen it was just a given when trouble started I would almost always be the one that swung first. When you are alone against odds or simply outclassed a bit in size and strength it is the way to go.
I broke the first pool stick when I was in a low dive just after turning fifteen and the much larger man trying to rob me of a day's wages($9 dollars!) got the point. After that I broke a lot of house sticks leaving places in the next couple of years until I got a little smoother dealing with people gambling.
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Some of them do it with their names exposed too though. I still use this handle because back in the era of 14.4 Kbps modems and the old BAUD standard it's just what everyone did. Too late to change it anyway and there's quite a few people on here that know who I am at any rate.
I don't reply in your threads because they tend to get 20+ pages long in a hurry without any real information being presented, just a lot of back-and-forth nit-picking from people who don't want to know there's a better player out there.
What makes me pay attention isn't a catch-phrase, nor that a former pro player can advocate an instructional method. The fact is you could say you use the alignment of the Earth's Ley Lines to aim your shot and you''d still sink everything. You could come up with a special diet and call eggs a bad name and still sink everything. You could also close your eyes and drink the fat off fried cheeseburgers for breakfast and still sink everything. So what you endorse makes little difference at face value.
But ... when I see the massive improvement in Mary's game, well, that's what convinces me you have something to share. Albeit I haven't read a lot lately, but I'm not aware of any "CJ Teaches Trick Shot Princess Using TOI" threads. So if you can teach anyone to start running out 10-ball racks then maybe the internet heroes should take heed. Will they? Not likely.
Too often I see crap like, "CJ doesn't understand physics, so his 'stuff' doesn't/can't work". Well, if I was looking for a physicist I'd ask Bob or Ron Sheppard for help. Honestly CJ, you're not my first choice in advice in avoiding prompt criticality. Running racks, yes. Nuclear physics, no. When it comes to the table, until the day I have "ESPN World Champion" under my belt I'm best served keeping my fingers away from "Submit".
Even Tor got lambasted over using "pool stick" instead of "pool cue" in his videos. Then he was a crook. Then a good friend. Then it was someone else's fault. Some days I think AZ is full of Earl's; always looking for someone else to blame, someone else to pick on. But Tor did show me how to nail a bank or a hanger kick 90% of the time in 1 hour for 8 dollars. Same price as a pint of Stella. Not a bad investment.
So to keep with the, "I have an anonymous name so I must be a troll", I need to post something negative, right? I detest your catch-phrase CJ, it's very gimicky. The only things the game has taught me are to be humble when I win, graceful when I lose, patient in the chair, and my head between the rails.
Shane is fortunate to be blessed with world class skill and a tremendous work ethic. Otherwise, without a degree he could well be the guy in the car wash. Many folks who withdraw from everyone around end up lonely and embittered and lack the social skills to connect with others as adults. Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease.
As a parent, I would be very concerned about my child withdrawing from social activites with their peers. Bullying can be overcome but the resulting depression and anxiety can stay with you your whole life, or even end it prematurely. Mental health professionals can provide more suitable coping mechanisms in most cases.
As a parent, I would be very concerned about my child withdrawing from social activites with their peers. Bullying can be overcome but the resulting depression and anxiety can stay with you your whole life, or even end it prematurely. Mental health professionals can provide more suitable coping mechanisms in most cases.
After reading this thread, my thoughts are: Help your children understand bullying.
If i remember right he was born 97% deaf..
If anyone hasn't seen it, watch the documentary "Bully". It is very enlightening and I think everyone shoulf see it, especially kids from high school down.
There is language and violence, but it is exactly what kids are going through every day. Very informative and should be eye opening to anyone with a brain.
There is language and violence, but it is exactly what kids are going through every day. Very informative and should be eye opening to anyone with a brain.
Sometime just the commitment to fight back makes a difference...
One of the big guys that used to pick on me in grade school had a habit of stealing one of my Oreo cookies as he passed the cafeteria table I was sitting at. No matter how hard I tried, he always snagged one the minute I looked away from the stack. It pissed me off to no end, but I wasn't about to go up against him over a cookie. He was huge and a real jock type.
I told my dad about it, and he came up with a brilliant plan. He took an Oreo out of the pack at home and twisted it open. Then he took a small knife and scooped out the very inside of the cream filling and filled it with hot pepper flakes.
"Put this one on top and let him grab it. Bet he never tries it again after that."
So, the stage was set, and the next day I carefully stacked them up and waited. Finally, I saw him coming in corner of my eye. As he approached, I must have given him a look that said I had had enough. He went to reach for the cookie, paused, then smiled and walked away. I never got the satisfaction of seeing his face on fire, but he never stole another cookie.
A few years later, we got into it outside on a cold winter day and I let him have it right on the left side of his head. He went down like a sack of shit, and sat there stunned for a second holding his ear while he looked up at me standing over him with my fist cocked. All of a sudden, he burst into tears! We were well into our teens by then, and he never lived it down. When bullies fall, they fall hard.
I can relate. I also had a speech problem as a kid which resulted in having to attend speech therapy at school. The abuse from fellow classmates was horrible.
Ended up starting high school sleeved out with tattoos to have a " bad boy" image. It worked for the most part but I did have to fight a couple times to prove myself.
Thanks. I just added it to my Netflix queue.
As soon as I watched it I shared it on my facebook, I felt so sad for him watching that to think of how he was treated.
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Bullying is wrong. I have shut up a few bullies in my time. I like to get in their face like they do to others and ask them if they are really brave, or just all mouth. Here they weigh 200 pounds and want to pick on some kid that weighs about 90.
Sadly, some don't give up bullying until they find themselves in a bloody heap on the floor looking up. If I have to, I can help fulfill that destiny for them.
Shane is a great player and a good guy. What's not to admire about players that devote the time and practice it takes to play top-end pool. They all deserve our respect.
Sadly, some don't give up bullying until they find themselves in a bloody heap on the floor looking up. If I have to, I can help fulfill that destiny for them.
Shane is a great player and a good guy. What's not to admire about players that devote the time and practice it takes to play top-end pool. They all deserve our respect.
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Isn't that the truth Bud. We had a Chubbster that rode on his brothers rep. His brother wasn't a fighter either but commanded respect, I have no idea why.
Chubbster never was in a fight in his life, just a big bully. One day, I saw a guy kick him in the nuts and he peed his pants. Funny how things work.
He is still a ***** to this day. I do see him in one bar that I go to to have a few games on occasion. Not sure if he would recognize me anyway.
If I ever get the chance, I may talk down to him and see how he reacts.
I've changed a lot since my getting bullied days. I generally let by gones be by gones but those were some very hurtful years for me.
I've long put that stuff to the back of my mind, but its still there.
My Fathers nick name was Teaser, he got that from his mother. I think some of that rubbed off on me as I would rather make people laugh than hurt. His army buddies called him that too.
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Yup, I agree. Guys with phony Internet names like "Neil", "Sfleinen", "Patrick Johnson" and such, bullied by a guy using his own "real" name: "cjssecrets4u2".
And don't thank the mods for intervening (except in Pat's case, which was a suicide). These guys just want nothing to do with you at this point.
FWIW my real name is Danny Fera. I'll send you any other info about me that you want by PM if you promise to stop spamming my Inbox with your self-serving promotions.
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Lol. Well played sir. Coming soon; www.cjbilliards.com.
I can't stop singing pythons "spam" song whenever I see his posts...
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