I agree Neils should congratulate Shane for his stellar play in the open. To accuse him of cheating for having a better break than him "is just WEAK!!!"
Poor sportsmanship..................
I agree Neils should congratulate Shane for his stellar play in the open. To accuse him of cheating for having a better break than him "is just WEAK!!!"
They must break from the rail? I think its not true2 reasons.
1. They had to break from the rail at WCOP.
2. They had to break harder to get 3 balls past the head string at WCOP, vs. 3 balls past the side pockets at the US Open.
What's wrong with pool is the fans. Just look at this thread! Most of those commenting don't have a clue what they are talking about. They don't even believe the wing ball can be made without a bad rack with the 9 on the spot! Yet, they are quick to say that SVB is cheating!
Just why do you think SVB spends so much time practicing his break? He doesn't want any gaps in the rack anywhere! He wants a consistent tight rack. That is where his break shines! Most of you don't even understand what hitting the head ball just a hair off center will do to the spread of the balls. IT CHANGES IT! So will adjusting your speed a hair. It's the combination of those two things that SVB studies! He also knows that breaking from near center line of the table, the 9 can consistently be headed up to the far corner pocket. The problem with that is, if it doesn't go in, most likely nothing else will either. So, he doesn't go for the 9. Instead, he has perfected how to change the spread of the balls by the hit and the speed. Thereby making the wingball reliably.
SVB's break is the result of countless hours of dedicated practice and really, really, paying attention to details. It's really a shame that when someone dedicates themselves to perfection, so many that are too lazy to do the same will accuse that person of cheating. They did it will Duel, and now are doing it with Shane.
You wonder why Duel doesn't play more, why he doesn't seem that interested anymore. You have no one to blame than yourselves! Here's a guy that is a pool genius, studied the game intensely, learned a way to break that gives you what you want to happen on the break, and you all cry and make it illegal!
Absolutely amazing how so many knock the true geniuses of the game! All out of sheer laziness on their part, because they don't want to work hard to perfect anything! They did it with Earl, Hal, Stan, Ron, Cory, and now Shane and Mike.
What's wrong with pool? look in a mirror!
Wow, so quick to believe skill over rack manipulation.
The back ball not touching and cut break. Then tell me nothing to racking!
Gap between wing ball and second ball!
Both work! Nudge one causes gap on wing ball.
Magic rack and no gaps! No problems!
Kd
Shane never once touched the 1 ball after the rack was lifted and both his opponent and TD checked the rack
Shane just hits the rack with proper power and accuracy more often than his opponents and in the end
the break was the difference in the match
two more things....
1. saying a player rigs the rack doesn't make it true.
2. pointing out that the world isn't barred from playing him is simply a statement of fact. go get your magic rack and $50k.
didn't say it makes me right and I didn't offer a bet thaiger. but it does relate to the original premise, which his that Shane can only win if breaks rigged racks. being willing to take on all comers with a magic rack and neutral racker would prove that this assertion is not true.
Shane being an excellent pool player doesn't mean he isn't also a cheat. In the same way that other people cheating, too, doesn't make it okay.
Everybody who has ever watched him play 9 ball or 10 ball has seen him spin the one ball. Whether he does it before or after the rack is lifted is a distinction without a difference.
Smart move on Shane's part, he found a loophole in the rules and he used it to his advantage but don't assert he doesn't do it. You can go on youtube and find dozens of examples of Shane leaning forward and spinning the cue ball.
I'm not saying it does, but I've yet to see SVB get similar results from his break in any of the tournaments using neutral rackers.
Yawn.
How was that the original premise? Nobody is disputing how well SVB plays, they're just disappointed in his rack rigging.
Are you saying that if Shane racked his own he would have won multiple world titles by now?
Did you miss the part where both Orcollo and Jay Helfert checked Shane's rack multiple times, and he still broke the balls like God?
Shane never once touched the 1 ball after the rack was lifted ...
Everybody who has ever watched him play 9 ball or 10 ball has seen him spin the one ball. Whether he does it before or after the rack is lifted is a distinction without a difference. ...
Everybody who has ever watched him play 9 ball or 10 ball has seen him spin the one ball. Whether he does it before or after the rack is lifted is a distinction without a difference.
Smart move on Shane's part, he found a loophole in the rules and he used it to his advantage but don't assert he doesn't do it. You can go on youtube and find dozens of examples of Shane leaning forward and spinning the cue ball.
Why do you think continually offering ridiculous bets unrelated to the original premise makes you right?
The READING of the rack you described above is not permitted and illegal. You either leave the gaps "Intentionally" or you examine the rack and exploit what is left for you. That is why examining the rack and the absence of the "neutral" racker is the problem as indicated several times!
KD
How do you have the US OPEN and no referee and no neutral racker? And who touches the rack after the rack is lifted? I have done it very seldom to freeze and errant ball just because I don't want to mess with reracking.
It seems to me that if this were something a player did every rack then it would be easy to see and stop.
I wonder though how many of the pros there have put in hours on the break DURING the event like Shane has?
from his facebook page
Niels 'The Terminator' Feijen (Official)
14 hours ago · Edited
13-10 Shane over Dennis! Both players hit over .950!! Best final I've ever seen!
Home sweet home tomorrow to my 2,5 girls, safe travels to ya all
Not really an apology, but somewhat of a congratulation