So I weighed my set of Aramith Pro Cups against the Cyclop Balls...

[Bavafongoul]

Thanks For the You Tube Suggestion

You know what, those Cyclops pool balls are truly homely looking........those pool balls are never gonna get invited to a pool tournament they're so ugleeeeeee..........crayon box colors, boring design, horrible numbers that are remindful of the Cricket phone for seniors.........ugh.......and also not sharp or clearly defined........these balls could have the most accurate weights and measurements ever achieved in a pool ball set. Regardless, I still would "never" be interested in trying them, let alone ever own a set............Get outta here with these fugazzi pool balls.......... horrible design and unappealing appearance.

Goodness garcious, Cyclops pool balls make Brunswick Centennials look like the highly coveted Crown Jewels of England.........there simply is "no" comparison.......none, zilch, zero, nada, squat, zippo.........ain't gonna happen so don't bother even going there........that dog won't hunt.........who in their right mind, other than just to purely be cantankerous and obstinate, would want this "one eyed" set if they could have the classic, elegant Brunswick Centennial Set instead..............Nuf Sed & "Good night John Boy."!!!!!!!!

 

[rexus31]

You know what, those Cyclops pool balls are truly homely looking........those pool balls are never gonna get invited to a pool tournament they're so ugleeeeeee..........crayon box colors, boring design, horrible numbers that are remindful of the Cricket phone for seniors.........ugh.......and also not sharp or clearly defined........these balls could have the most accurate weights and measurements ever achieved in a pool ball set. Regardless, I still would "never" be interested in trying them, let alone ever own a set............Get outta here with these fugazzi pool balls.......... horrible design and unappealing appearance.

Goodness garcious, Cyclops pool balls make Brunswick Centennials look like the highly coveted Crown Jewels of England.........there simply is "no" comparison.......none, zilch, zero, nada, squat, zippo.........ain't gonna happen so don't bother even going there........that dog won't hunt.........who in their right mind, other than just to purely be cantankerous and obstinate, would want this "one eyed" set if they could have the classic, elegant Brunswick Centennial Set instead..............Nuf Sed & "Good night John Boy."!!!!!!!!

Hmmmm, I like 'em.

 

[real bartram]

I will let Lou answer since he is the spokesperson for this brand on AZB and the watchman against "bad info" about the balls.

Maybe they didn't clean them right
But at the us open tourneys in Vegas I saw more skids then ever
And I have played and been around a lot of pool

 

[JB Cases]

Maybe they didn't clean them right
But at the us open tourneys in Vegas I saw more skids then ever
And I have played and been around a lot of pool

You know, I don't wax my balls because I don't like how they feel when they are that slippery. I wonder sometimes if certain compounds make balls stickier and more attractive to chalk?

 

[lfigueroa]

Knowing the weight is nice, but what material is it?

I saw more balls skid in my 11 days in Vegas than I've seen in 2 years in my home town pool hall. So...something is different...

85% resin in the Cyclop v 57-58% for Aramiths.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

Lighter.

They wear down in time. Especially the cueball.

Yes, but because of their higher resin content the Cyclop balls are harder and will most likely wear down more slowly.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

If I remember correctly, from the interview with the rep. They are a different blend of phenolic more on the lines of the Brunswick Centenials.

I believe that someone said that they bought the formula form Brunswick but the rep said that they played around with the composition to get the colors to set up properly.

He said that there were comments about the balls playing lighter, but that was because they have a higher COR, which basically means that they are a bit bouncier.

Perhaps that is why the skids were more noticeable as perhaps they were enhanced in magnitude & not really in the actual number of skids.

Regards & Best Wishes,
Rick

Not sure how you got from a higher COR to more noticeable skids. Care to explain your science on this or at least the logic behind your theory?

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

You know what, those Cyclops pool balls are truly homely looking........those pool balls are never gonna get invited to a pool tournament they're so ugleeeeeee..........crayon box colors, boring design, horrible numbers that are remindful of the Cricket phone for seniors.........ugh.......and also not sharp or clearly defined........these balls could have the most accurate weights and measurements ever achieved in a pool ball set. Regardless, I still would "never" be interested in trying them, let alone ever own a set............Get outta here with these fugazzi pool balls.......... horrible design and unappealing appearance.

Goodness garcious, Cyclops pool balls make Brunswick Centennials look like the highly coveted Crown Jewels of England.........there simply is "no" comparison.......none, zilch, zero, nada, squat, zippo.........ain't gonna happen so don't bother even going there........that dog won't hunt.........who in their right mind, other than just to purely be cantankerous and obstinate, would want this "one eyed" set if they could have the classic, elegant Brunswick Centennial Set instead..............Nuf Sed & "Good night John Boy."!!!!!!!!

Cyclop balls will eventually have a set available in traditional colors.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

Maybe they didn't clean them right
But at the us open tourneys in Vegas I saw more skids then ever
And I have played and been around a lot of pool

In the other thread on these balls the most reasonable theory that emerged was that the measles ball in use at the Vegas would skid more if it had been previously used at a tournament for 8ball, 9ball, or 10ball and the players were using phenolic tips. The phenolic tips, being harder, would sort of etch the chalk on the tip into the CB roughing up its surface and making it more likely to skid.

Lou Figueroa

 

[Island Drive]

Yes, but because of their higher resin content the Cyclop balls are harder and will most likely wear down more slowly.

Lou Figueroa

I knew a retail outlet. When their Brunswick Centennial sets came in, first thing the owner did was mic em. The tolerances were tighter along with the weights. If the numbers were outta wack, he'd send the sets back.

 

[Tony_in_MD]

I missed that. So the Cyclops cueball was not used at the event?

If it wasn't how could the Cyclops balls be blamed for the skids? At most if it was the balls themselves it would be the interaction between the measles CB and the Cyclops balls.

Small scuffs, from phenolic tips, and other sources could be a good theory.

In the other thread on these balls the most reasonable theory that emerged was that the measles ball in use at the Vegas would skid more if it had been previously used at a tournament for 8ball, 9ball, or 10ball and the players were using phenolic tips. The phenolic tips, being harder, would sort of etch the chalk on the tip into the CB roughing up its surface and making it more likely to skid.

Lou Figueroa

 

[JB Cases]

I like Shane's comment about it, the balls don't matter, just play was pretty much the gist of it.

 

[lfigueroa]

I missed that. So the Cyclops cueball was not used at the event?

If it wasn't how could the Cyclops balls be blamed for the skids? At most if it was the balls themselves it would be the interaction between the measles CB and the Cyclops balls.

Small scuffs, from phenolic tips, and other sources could be a good theory.

At the Pro events on the 9' tables -- 1pocket, 8ball, and 10ball -- they used a measles ball.

Lou Figueroa

 

[jalapus logan]

How do you guys think that Cyclop balls would compare with the new Aramith Tournament Duramith ball set? The Tournament set is supposed to be Aramith's new flagship product. I've been using them for over a year and I feel like they are indeed a quality product. My friend who is a billiard nut had his machinist brother craft him a custom ball calibration tool which we used to determine that my old Super Pro set had become out of tolerance over time. New out of the pack, each of these duramith balls were in spec each time. We did not weigh any of the balls though.

 

[cuejo]

How do you guys think that Cyclop balls would compare with the new Aramith Tournament Duramith ball set? The Tournament set is supposed to be Aramith's new flagship product. I've been using them for over a year and I feel like they are indeed a quality product. My friend who is a billiard nut had his machinist brother craft him a custom ball calibration tool which we used to determine that my old Super Pro set had become out of tolerance over time. New out of the pack, each of these duramith balls were in spec each time. We did not weigh any of the balls though.

You should make this ball spec tool available for sale, I'm sure there is a market for room owners....

It would sure shut up a bunch of rail birds who don't believe that balls wear down!
I play with a set of duramith balls and like the way they look.
I don't notice much difference in the way they play vs super pros

 

[ENGLISH!]

Not sure how you got from a higher COR to more noticeable skids. Care to explain your science on this or at least the logic behind your theory?

Lou Figueroa

Hi Lou,

Given what the rep said, if they have a higher COR & are 'bouncier' then when 'whatever' makes them cling, which is being in contact for longer than normal, that gives the ball more contact time to build up the COR & rebound off in the new direction with a bit more velocity.

My point being that what might have been a small skid that might still go into the pocket & perhaps even be unnoticed is now a more pronounced skid that misses the pocket & is noticed.

From what everyone is saying it would seem that there actually were more skids in number. My point is that even if the number of skids was not increased that perhaps them being more pronounced caused more misses & made them more noticeable, which would tend for everyone to say that there were more of them.

I'm not pro or con for the balls but they are different. That can not be argued. Now the question becomes, is that difference better or worse & in what regard.

IMO, whenever a different cue ball to the rest of the balls is introduced anyone worth his salt will notice a difference. These balls may play great with their own CB.

IMO, the BCA has let pool players down by lowering the specs for cue balls so the manufacturers can increase their profit margin by not having to do away with balls that would not otherwise meet the specs.

The BCA is a TRADE organization. We the players are down on the list.

All the Best,
Rick

 

[CocoboloCowboy]

Cyclop Balls from where?

 

[jalapus logan]

You should make this ball spec tool available for sale, I'm sure there is a market for room owners....

It would sure shut up a bunch of rail birds who don't believe that balls wear down!
I play with a set of duramith balls and like the way they look.
I don't notice much difference in the way they play vs super pros

Hmmm...perhaps there would be a niche market for such a tool. I also agree with you that I can not tell a difference in playability between the duramith ball set vs. the super pro set.

Lastly, I can assure everyone that balls most certainly lose mass and become smaller and out of spec over time. This is a fact. Out of spec balls have several unfortunate qualities as well, not the least of which is difficulty/impossibilty of getting a rack frozen.

 

[Mark Griffin]

cyclop balls

Tuscon9ball has posted numnerous times about hi sexperiences with skids at the BCAPL nationals. I watched some shooting from players - and talked tot he camera guys from TAR who watched INTENTLY the action of the balls. They say alomost no skids.

Bartram said he had some skids - but I heard he followed on a table that had quite a bit of talc on it.

My opinion is that they will skid less than other balls because they are 'harder' - but I dont buy one or two guys saying all they did was skid.

If they did, I think there were other factors. I might also add that the humidity changed drasticly in the pool rooms at the Rio - because of the storm and then the electricity was out for 12 hours which meant no AC.

Humidity fluctuated a lot. I will say that when we picked up the balls from the Pavilion room - they had a tendency to be a little clammy.

Mark Griffin

Knowing the weight is nice, but what material is it?

I saw more balls skid in my 11 days in Vegas than I've seen in 2 years in my home town pool hall. So...something is different...

 

[brophog]

Tuscon9ball has posted numnerous times about hi sexperiences with skids at the BCAPL nationals.

Some things should be kept just between a man and his set of billiard balls.