Spot Shot English

It’s pretty much an impossible scenario. You can’t have a BIH and only one ball left on the table both at the same time.

If you mean that your opponent pocketed the last ball into a neutral pocket and left the CB in the kitchen, I’d normally use top spin only (maybe with a touch of outside) but depends on the angle he left you with.

btw - pocketing the last ball into a neutral pocket and leaving the CB uptable is a very silly thing to do in one pocket

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The opponents scratches don't count.
 
You can make a no-rail spot shot without getting fancy. A slow roll will do it.
Agree. Me and a buddy use to shot that all the time and bet who could make the ball and be the farthest from the rail. I believe we could stop 4 - 5 inches from it.
 
In One Pocket, you both need one ball. It is your shot...a spot shot, cue ball in the kitchen, and your pocket is on the left. What English would you put on the shot? I have heard several strong opinions....What is yours???
If I'm playing well and am confident, I shoot it in with a comfortable, full stroke. I'll also shoot it if it's a "friendly" game. If I'm playing for something serious, am not playing well, or feel like I'm a bit nervous, I'll move the cue more towards the middle so the object ball is cut and the cue come back up table. You never give up anything if you miss (unless you hit it really, really bad).
 
It’s pretty much an impossible scenario. You can’t have a BIH and only one ball left on the table both at the same time.

If you mean that your opponent pocketed the last ball into a neutral pocket and left the CB in the kitchen, I’d normally use top spin only (maybe with a touch of outside) but depends on the angle he left you with.

btw - pocketing the last ball into a neutral pocket and leaving the CB uptable is a very silly thing to do in one pocket

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Your opponents scratches don't count .
 
Are you saying that if you shoot both shots to get the cueball to the same position on the side rail of your pocket , that the object ball, if it doesn't go in the pocket, travels the same distance?
No, and that's a good point - because of the fuller hit on the OB, the shot from nearer the side rail has to be hit harder for the CB to go the same distance, so the OB will also go farther if missed - i.e., more likely to leave a shot for opponent. Good catch.

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Huh? It is pretty common scenario to hav a single ball left in the game and a scratch to occur. Only one ball spots in that case and the position of the single ball preceding the scratch could be unplayable...as bob said, coz it is behind the headstring, though it could really be anywhere that is less favorable to incoming player than the spotted ball.
One ball on the table and one spots=2 balls on table and it is not possible for both to need 1. Think this is the new math and I ain't real good at it.😉
 
One pocket is pretty much all I play. I've seen more games lost by trying to stay safe than by cinching this shot.

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I'd disagree that shooting the last ball into a non-scoring pocket has to be a 'silly thing to do'. There are certainly situations where it is to the advantage of the first shooter, others where it is unavoidable.
I think you either replied in the wrong post or didn't understand what I was saying. My response was to the people who said it could never come up in that way ....yes it could , you just hadn't figured out how .
 
Agree. Me and a buddy use to shot that all the time and bet who could make the ball and be the farthest from the rail. I believe we could stop 4 - 5 inches from it.
I thought that was about the limit until I looked at it closer. About 10 inches is possible. Here is a post about it:
 
No, and that's a good point - because of the fuller hit on the OB, the shot from nearer the side rail has to be hit harder for the CB to go the same distance, so the OB will also go farther if missed - i.e., more likely to leave a shot for opponent. Good catch.

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How would you shoot the shot if you played the speed of Dippy and were playing for a good amount ? My best guess would be the majority of players in here would need at least a ball from Dave maybe 2 . What's their best chance, playing an equal player?
{ I'm just trying to give my perspective for the non champions}
 
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Your opponents scratches don't count .
Or, maybe even more likely, both of you forget to spot the penalty ball after the scratch. o_O

I haven't seen a "scratches don't count" game for a long, long time. The last strange spot I saw was when I gave "nothing I do counts" to a fairly good player and I got a ball spot. It was a mistake especially since I had never seen the game played.
 
Agree. Me and a buddy use to shot that all the time and bet who could make the ball and be the farthest from the rail. I believe we could stop 4 - 5 inches from it.
The heavier the cue ball the easier it is....I think. You guys have made this thread fun for me...at least I learned some things. Now, how do I shoot it leaving the cue ball 10 inches from the short rail???
 
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you can make convoluted conditions to then make any scenario possible in pool. that ruins all discussions or thoughts.
a standard game is what we talk about when we give an example. otherwise you define the parameters if you want to include other options.
 
the best way to shoot a spot shot with another opponent's balls still in play is to play position so if you miss he have less than a good shot at getting out.

if you need multiple balls then its wise to play position on them as a spot shot is considered an easy shot and you should be able to make it most times and put the cuebll about where you want it on the table.

and in many or most cases where you need just one ball, you want to leave the cueball down on the short rail so he is shooting up table at his balls.

so your spot shot is to be hit with low or low and outside to hit the long rail and settle in on the short rail. that is the best spot that will not leave him an easy bank if you miss yet is one of the easiest ways of making a spot shot almost every time.
 
Ignoring all the minor details and just saying how to shoot a spot shot with ball in hand, I am going to shoot it with a little high, half that much or less outside. My way of thinking, this is most likely to give a consistent interaction between cue ball and object ball since I don't want to shoot that far with the cue ball still skidding. I am aiming for center pocket and giving zero consideration to where balls will go if I miss assuming this is my game ball. "What if I miss?" is one of the worst thoughts you can have. Either commit to the shot or another one, don't half ass the shot such as "missing on the pro side" involves. The shot is tough, so you are going to make it more difficult?

I have slept since using this but there is an easy way to make spot shots. I forget where the cue ball goes but you aim at the first diamond on the foot of the table. Ignore the ball on the spot, it is going in with no thought or calculation, no worries about what could go wrong. Somebody with a better memory can describe this shot.

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