i dont need to see the pockets, theres no difference between a cut and a back cut for myself personally
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i dont need to see the pockets, theres no difference between a cut and a back cut for myself personally
Simply because our bodies don't work the way you evidently think they do. When you flex your biceps in a natural arm movement, causing the lower arm to swing, it is natural for the upper arm to move (causing elbow drop when in a pool stance). It takes "effort" for this not to happen. The upper arm movement gives extra momentum to the forarm, adding power with little perceived muscular effort.
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soft ball pitchers are prone to less injury....also the fastest pitch is by an underhanded thrower.......
also why you see more pitchers who throw chicken wing "sidearm" more injury prone than others......
why young pitchers hurt themselves trying to throw curves....because they actually try and force the ball to curve.
stop flexing your bicep by making a fist.......
magic
also funny how if someone does a stroke motion standing straight up that elbow doesnt fly out and up lol
OK so throwing underhand has fewer moving parts, is less stressful on the arm, and according to you - the fastest pitch was thrown this way BUT yet nobody pitches this way in the Majors. So again it's not a good argument for using a pendulum stroke.
Not sure if there's a point in there or not.
You are telling me that when you swing your forarm in a relaxed manner (standing upright), with a relaxed hand, the upper arm doesn't follow a little bit, causing elbow movement? Wow..
There is.... Our perception doesn't work the same way when we are playing back cuts. Some really strange things happen in this game.
When you see a pro player missing a shot, most of the time it's a back cut.
Have you watched the money match between SVB and Ruslan Chinakhov ??? Shane missed three back cuts in this match. All of them undercuts.
In 2002 WC quarter finals between Efren Reyes and Francisco Bustamante, at 34.20 Efren missed the "7". Right back cut. Undercut....
Snooker players miss on back cuts.
Perception is the answer.
If you see a player undercutting back cuts, that's ok. It doesn't have to do with fundamentals. Has to do with perception. The eyes must move into the shot in a different way.
That's what I think.
point was injuries due to motion
thats completely understandable.... one must be able to see the edges of the balls of course as its probably the purest contact to contact shot just thinking off top of my head. i still dont need to ever see a pocket though...but thats just me
no not just bringing my hand up to my shoulder it doenst, nomatter how fast slow or hard i go in that motion......maybe i'm a just a talented freak though
but every complete noob ive showed this too in person and had them do the movement withou a cue....does it pretty easily everytime, with no problems....fat tall big small no diff.
you then put said cue intheir hands and they regrip and grip frim because they cant control the cue yet...and wahla.......elbow drops......
same said people.....let them try a v grip....and ba boom....pretty pendulum
my blind navajo samauri rafiki is a documented proof of this......some have seen him already
Thanks for saying this !!!!!!
So, you see the edges ??????
Now, I think we can discuss some things about the game.
You don't think I am some kind of troll, do you ?
LOL, sometimes the Copy & Paste doesn't take. Here's the Cliff Thorburn video with short stroke:
https://youtu.be/PE0n_7i_VLE
He does do the short strokes...He also does his forward pause a mile away from the cueball, yet somehow plays fantastic snooker. Incredible.
Looks like Alex Pagulayan's stroke ?
I was amazed first time I saw it 20+ years ago and don't think I've seen anyone else use that stroke since. I think he was trusting his bridge positioning... as for how he controlled the CB with that short jab, that's hard to grasp. Even some power shots off that 4 inch back swing that were impressive.
I'd never considered that, but similarities after watching some of this video of Alex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzONCixoH1E
Perhaps the Canadian Snooker influence.
(you have your moments....but your no english by any means)
you couldn't shoot that shot much less very close quarter shots that arn't back cuts where you cant see pocket if you could not see the edges.....
i have one particular shot that i show to many.....to help them stay sharp or to scare the chit out of people....depending on which side of the bed i wake up on....
CB in corner pocket.....ob directly in front of it on short rail...one balls width off side rail.....from the center diamond, all the way up to a the next diamond.....illl cut that white betch in the side eyes closed.....daintily all gorgeous like....so special english....ob just rolls....sits on the edge, sees the bottom of the pocket. had a massive heart attack, then falls over dead into the sarlacc monster waiting to digest it over 10000 years in the side pocket.
contact to contact is and has been gaining popularit for many years as a aim style......i wonder if such has occurred with the propesity of more video game pool playing, wth the visual being flat 2d images, in which contact to contact makes the most sense, so does "ghost" ball.
ghost ball imop is strangehere and there because of perception, it works mathematically on paper......CTE doesn't......but imop cte takes into account for this perception and the propensity also for optical illusions we encounter constantly in he game because we are dealing with spheres. Because of this....we are dealing with an infinite quantity of 'points' or at leat 360xx360 degrees....as opposed to 360 which would be found in 2d views.....which is why i find close quater shots being made by standing tall and birdseye viewing the shot is the proper course for such shots.........
ask scott about a few of such shots i made on him last time he came visit, and played positon.....if he had had to fart at the moment he woulda made a rosebud lol! thank goodness i hadn't made really spicy food
wouldn't ya agree Scott lol....
(you have your moments....but your no english by any means)
you couldn't shoot that shot much less very close quarter shots that arn't back cuts where you cant see pocket if you could not see the edges.....
i have one particular shot that i show to many.....to help them stay sharp or to scare the chit out of people....depending on which side of the bed i wake up on....
CB in corner pocket.....ob directly in front of it on short rail...one balls width off side rail.....from the center diamond, all the way up to a the next diamond.....illl cut that white betch in the side eyes closed.....daintily all gorgeous like....so special english....ob just rolls....sits on the edge, sees the bottom of the pocket. had a massive heart attack, then falls over dead into the sarlacc monster waiting to digest it over 10000 years in the side pocket.
contact to contact is and has been gaining popularit for many years as a aim style......i wonder if such has occurred with the propesity of more video game pool playing, wth the visual being flat 2d images, in which contact to contact makes the most sense, so does "ghost" ball.
ghost ball imop is strangehere and there because of perception, it works mathematically on paper......CTE doesn't......but imop cte takes into account for this perception and the propensity also for optical illusions we encounter constantly in he game because we are dealing with spheres. Because of this....we are dealing with an infinite quantity of 'points' or at leat 360xx360 degrees....as opposed to 360 which would be found in 2d views.....which is why i find close quater shots being made by standing tall and birdseye viewing the shot is the proper course for such shots.........
ask scott about a few of such shots i made on him last time he came visit, and played positon.....if he had had to fart at the moment he woulda made a rosebud lol! thank goodness i hadn't made really spicy food
wouldn't ya agree Scott lol....
So, what should we discuss now ?
Maybe the magic number 22,5 ?
who told you about 22.5?
thats half an offset......you must be part of the "group"....
your definately "tubed" in......
watching you closely to see if you "fit"......
i'm sure no one has a dam clue as to what i'm talking about......
Nobody told me anything. I learn by myself.
What exactly is this "group" ?
I don't know what you are talking about. I am no part of any group.
And what does "half an offset" mean ? Pls don't think I'm trolling.