SVB, best all around in the world.

[pt109]

Was this a "World" title?, taking nothing away from a great achievement but I think "world" may not be the correct description.

I think winning 'Master of the Table' playing 3 disciplines is STRONGER than
winning any one world title.
And like the US Open 9-ball...the DCC is open...you don't have to earn a
place in it ....just bring your entry fee.
So if the best aren't in it, it's their fault.

..and I've just recently learned on here that Shane is the biggest money
winner ( tournament-wise ) in the last 5 years.

..so his 'street creds' says world title.
I'm sure some players might challenge for an 'all-round' at these games...
( the Lion comes to mind )
...but they would be the 'challengers'.....
...Shane Van Boening would be the 'defender'

 

[watchez]

What I am impressed with is that the week before SVB gets beat by Busty - this would put many a player into a downward spiral as it was a highly publicized match. But SVB quickly put that on the shelf and pulled off the greatest showing in DCC history.

Sounds like Cleary will be contacting his friends at TAR for SVB to play an around with a Pinoy. SVB is great but I'll still take the Pinoy.

 

[Cuebuddy]

My apologies for speaking English, the language my forefathers invented, and others have bastardised to the point they don't understand it.

Mikjary wrote a lot of words with little obvious point, finishing his efforts with "just sayin'". I then asked him what he was on about.

Clearer?

Nope not much "clearer"
And I had no problem seeing Mikjary's point. But I am afraid that his words of wisdom directed at you might as well be directed at a>

 

[brandoncook26]

What I am impressed with is that the week before SVB gets beat by Busty - this would put many a player into a downward spiral as it was a highly publicized match. But SVB quickly put that on the shelf and pulled off the greatest showing in DCC history.

Sounds like Cleary will be contacting his friends at TAR for SVB to play an around with a Pinoy. SVB is great but I'll still take the Pinoy.

I think that Shane's loss to Alex in 2008 (Action Challenge 3) went a long way to him learning how to move on from the losses. Shane himself has admitted to that loss messing with his confidence for a long time. It was at least 6 months after that before he started to look like himself again.

Clearly, Shane has learned to roll with the punches. Hell, the manner in which he lost the bank final with the controversy could have sharked a lesser player into not performing well in the other two disciplines.

His performance this week shows that he is the best American, and one of if not the top of the heap when it comes to pool around the world.

 

[realkingcobra]

Best in the world?...I probably wouldn't go that far considering he hasn't won any major international tournament. All the best players in the world were not at DCC. Best player in the US and at this years Derby city....without a doubt!!!.

Well, for what it's worth, there's NEVER been a tournament held that ALL...the best players in the world has attended at the same time...for one reason or another, and unless the prize money was high enough..don't be looking for that to happen any time soon.

Glen

 

[LAMas]

My apologies for speaking English, the language my forefathers invented, and others have bastardised to the point they don't understand it.

Mikjary wrote a lot of words with little obvious point, finishing his efforts with "just sayin'". I then asked him what he was on about.

Clearer?

Yes, but I had to google the Urban Dictionary for a citation for that contraction is not used much here in the US that I know.

1. what are you on about?
meaning "what do you mean?"

it is a shortened version on "what are you going on about?" or "what are you talking about?"

 

[Kickin' Chicken]

Y'all can keep saying "best this week" but he's the best all around playing period.

I think this is a very fair statement.

Remember, best all around player.

Who on earth would anyone suggest that can beat SVB if they were to play him 9 ball, 10 ball, banks, and 1p?

Somebody might get him on one discipline but no one person would best him in three or four of them. This week or next.

Best,
Brian kc

 

[TheThaiger]

Yes, but I had to google the Urban Dictionary for a citation for that contraction is not used much here in the US that I know.

1. what are you on about?
meaning "what do you mean?"

it is a shortened version on "what are you going on about?" or "what are you talking about?"

Whatcha talkin bout Willis

Etcetera.

 

[Playin4Dinner]

And on top of it all it was reported that Shane is going to play Busty for 30,000 in California and was looking to set up an all around for another 30k with Efren.

That's balls to go after the guy who just beat you out of 10k and triple the bet and to challenge the best living player to an all-around.

Win or lose that shows amazing heart on Shane's part and on his backer's part.

Great post sir....:thumbup:



Regardless of outcome, this is exactly why I believe we have yet to see this man's ceiling.... He continues to get up and challenge the best in the world.... Imo, a TAR svb vs efren all around would trump anything they've done in the past.... I think an all around would be great for TAR atm and would broaden the audience/viewers..... Not everyone out there is a rotation (9-10 ball) junky like me....



B2B one hole champ and B2B MOT (made all 3 finals w/2wins) is simply amazing.... I have very little one hole knowledge but I can see that SVB still has alot to learn about this game.... Just imagine when he learns all the shots, %s, and how to hold his man down.... Most one hole purists would say he plays the game incorrectly at times but the results are undeniable.... The short race format obviously favored SVB, but the fields were enormous and loaded with talent....

 

[westcoast]

I think this is a very fair statement.

Remember, best all around player.

Who on earth would anyone suggest that can beat SVB if they were to play him 9 ball, 10 ball, banks, and 1p?

Somebody might get him on one discipline but no one person would best him in three or four of them. This week or next.

Best,
Brian kc

How do we know unless such a match up happened?

Efren is known to be a great 9 ball, 10 ball, and especially 1 pocket player. Bustamante is also known to be accomplished at all of them as well. Before the match up with Bustamante, most people were saying that Shane would dominate him. We all know what happened when they actually played.

Shane is clearly a great player. I just don't understand why people have to degrade other players when complimenting Shane.

 

[cleary]

How do we know unless such a match up happened?

Efren is known to be a great 9 ball, 10 ball, and especially 1 pocket player. Bustamante is also known to be accomplished at all of them as well. Before the match up with Bustamante, most people were saying that Shane would dominate him. We all know what happened when they actually played.

Shane is clearly a great player. I just don't understand why people have to degrade other players when complimenting Shane.

Not degrading anyone, but Shane has moved into that spot that efren held for many years. Just sayin'.

 

[jay helfert]

I got home today and am still a little under the weather. I want to thank all the AZ'ers who came up and said hello to me. I'm sorry I wasn't able to spend more time in the AZ room this trip and play pool with everyone. I did get to play in the Banks and got to the fourth round before running into a young man (25) named Joey Gray. No bad beat stories here, he thrashed me good! But was a gentleman doing it.

I was witness to Shane and his play all week and he was AWESOME! He never let down and never played a bad match. Shane continues to work hard at his game and continues to get better. He listens and learns from the other top players and has a good rapport with most of them. Shane is proud of his triumphs but not egotistical about his accomplishments. He is quick to acknowledge the skills of his adversaries, and yet confident that he can find a way to overcome them. Which he so often does, as evidenced by the results of the past ten days.

What he did at the 2012 DCC is a feat that may never be matched. Looking around the room on the final day of all three events, I could only see champions on every table. To emerge victorious in any one of the three events is a great achievement. To reach the finals in all three is simply remarkable, and to win two of three mind blowing! The final 15-20 players in the 9-Ball alone was a virtual who's who of current billiard greats. Wait until you read the results of that event and see the names who fell by the wayside on the last day.

Imo the 9-Ball at DCC is the most difficult event to win. The races are very short and one mistake can easily cost you the match. Shane had to play flawless pool match after match with no letdown at any time. The fact that he can get up there and play great pool in every match is a feat in itself. Almost all the other top players had a momentary letdown in their play that cost them a match or two. Dennis O. was playing super pool until he ran into Stevie Moore who took advantage of one error and shut him down from that point on!

I have no doubt that Shane could do well in Straight Pool if he wanted, but he indicated to me that he just didn't have time to play in that event. He did play in the Fatboy Challenge, losing to Francisco in the first round (he's a thorn in Shane's side). Losing that match was a big disappointment to Shane, because he really wants to win that event also. I suspect some day he will.

Once again, imo Shane is the best All Around player in the world today, with no weakness at any game. It took a super hot John Morra (another break through performance) to wrest the Bank Pool title away from him. Not even Efren has ever had a performance like Shane did this time. Best of all we don't yet know how great a player Shane will become. I look for him to win at least one world title this year. That's my prediction.

 

[naji]

Move over Efren... SVB is the best all around player in the world. If he could make money in straight pool, he would master that too. 1st in 9ball, 1st in one pocket and 2nd in banks... Unreal. Say what you want, but he's currently the best all around in the world.

Truthfully i think his well power is much stronger than his game and that is what keeps his determination high, after loosing to Busty at the TAR, he said to himself, "no one will beat me as long as i am alive" , he worked hard for it, and it pays;
As far as Efren who knows what he has in mind ! a big $$$ rematch? would SVB plays him even one pocket? who knows? will wait and see

 

[chambalero]

I agree SVB is the best player this week. Last week he was owned by Django. I wonder who will it be next week we don't know, the big fishes might bite back and eat the fisherman whole

 

[Cameron Smith]

Was this a "World" title?, taking nothing away from a great achievement but I think "world" may not be the correct description.

I agree. We certainly can't call this a world after the drama surrounding the "World" 14.1 Championship.

That said, it's an incredible accomplishment, did Shane gamble any more or less during this years event? Curious if he was maybe more focused on the tournament.

 

[Petros Andrikop]

SVB is definately one of the best players around the globe.

I don't agree with considering him as "the best" or comparing him to living legends like Reyes, Strickland, Sigel, Archer, Souquet etc, at least yet.

Don't be sure of how many times he can beat those guys out of 10 matches in different divisions of the game, and don't forget all of them are older than him, some much older..

Comparing his game to what these guys played years ago and the titles they gothered under different conditions (no alternate brake systems for eg) is an insult to the game, also like comparing his game to older legends as well...

The guy is extremely sympathetic, a role model for young players, a great player, maybe the greatest in the future, but that's about it.

His results are definately not based mainly in his aiming method, no matter how much this is stated and for whatever reasons it will not stand against the simple truth that aiming is not the most important part of the game.
Most good players loose matches to top players without missing even a single shot during the match...

Aiming systems are important, young people should study them, preferably not too complex ones in order to maintain function.
Study of the game should be complete, emphasis mainly on aiming is a catastrophic approach for an upcoming player who will never ever reach her/his true potential this way, exceptions only confirm rules..

Guidance of young players to the right direction could only benefit the game...