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BasementDweller

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Asking for a spot if you’re playing a stronger player is called common sense. Asking for a spot against someone you’re even with may be considered “savvy” by some, and Nit logic by others. If you won’t get in the Box even against a player of equal skill level, then you don’t need a spot, you need a heart transplant.
You're acting like the same gambling principles apply evenly across the board. They don't. There's the "rules" that us bums buy into and then there are actual champions. Shane has proven all he'll ever need to prove on the pool table, and he's on record as not even really liking one pocket. So why play? The fact that he's managed to make a good living as a professional pool player tells me he has all the heart he needs and probably even more smarts.
 

maha

from way back when
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an eve
Asking for a spot if you’re playing a stronger player is called common sense. Asking for a spot against someone you’re even with may be considered “savvy” by some, and Nit logic by others. If you won’t get in the Box even against a player of equal skill level, then you don’t need a spot, you need a heart transplant.
an even gamble is the same as flipping a coin for the amount woofed. there is no purpose in that. and just hurts your action in the future that is sucker thinking as they need a brain transplant and suckers usually dont have any money made from gambling.
but smart gamblers are glad there are suckers as it keeps them in money while the suckers are looking for new backers.
if you are a smart gambler you dont need or want to share your winnings with backers.

to add in all my years ive never had a backer and refused a few. and never give up a piece of my action except a few times to friends who i made money with. and when i play the window is open.
 
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Colonel

Raised by Wolves in a Pool Hall
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You're acting like the same gambling principles apply evenly across the board. They don't. There's the "rules" that us bums buy into and then there are actual champions. Shane has proven all he'll ever need to prove on the pool table, and he's on record as not even really liking one pocket. So why play? The fact that he's managed to make a good living as a professional pool player tells me he has all the heart he needs and probably even more smarts.
The reply of mine you quoted had nothing to do with SVB. Perhaps you should read the post I quoted that my response pertains to that post, not SVB. Regarding SVB, you’re correct in that he doesn’t like 1P, that’s related to its not suited to his game and he’s not as good at it as he should be given his prowess in other disciplines.
 

couldnthinkof01

AzB Silver Member
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an eve

an even gamble is the same as flipping a coin for the amount woofed. there is no purpose in that. and just hurts your action in the future that is sucker thinking as they need a brain transplant and suckers usually dont have any money made from gambling.
but smart gamblers are glad there are suckers as it keeps them in money while the suckers are looking for new backers.
if you are a smart gambler you dont need or want to share your winnings with backers.

to add in all my years ive never had a backer and refused a few. and never give up a piece of my action except a few times to friends who i made money with. and when i play the window is open.
Nothing wrong with spreading the risk but I agree with the sentiment.
 

Colonel

Raised by Wolves in a Pool Hall
Silver Member
an eve

an even gamble is the same as flipping a coin for the amount woofed. there is no purpose in that. and just hurts your action in the future that is sucker thinking as they need a brain transplant and suckers usually dont have any money made from gambling.
but smart gamblers are glad there are suckers as it keeps them in money while the suckers are looking for new backers.
if you are a smart gambler you dont need or want to share your winnings with backers.

to add in all my years ive never had a backer and refused a few. and never give up a piece of my action except a few times to friends who i made money with. and when i play the window is open.
Nit
 

maha

from way back when
Silver Member
Nothing wrong with spreading the risk but I agree with the sentiment.
if you gamble game by game the risk stays the same and you get to win all the money and control the stakes as you go along.
no sense in letting someone not doing the work get part of what you figure to win.

if gambling with an edge you will be a certain winner ahead money at some point in the future depending on how big your edge is and how long you play.
 

maha

from way back when
Silver Member
nits generally bet small and run when up. as they are not gambling smart and have very little clue to how to handle the betting and keeping their money. thats what a nit does. and that is what works for them.
but most of them at least have some money that they didnt have to earn at a job.

ive been called a nit a few times. and of course later on turned them down when they wanted to borrow money.

one thing i used to do when someone called me that is tell them to flip a coin for all they have in their pocket. then i say lets see who the nit is.
 

BasementDweller

AzB Silver Member
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The reply of mine you quoted had nothing to do with SVB. Perhaps you should read the post I quoted that my response pertains to that post, not SVB. Regarding SVB, you’re correct in that he doesn’t like 1P, that’s related to its not suited to his game and he’s not as good at it as he should be given his prowess in other disciplines.
I've read the thread. Someone named "Colonel" wrote this:
Not a matter of “heard”. Chohan wanted 9-8 to play him last week. Shane asked for 10-8 at the Derby a few weeks ago. So is that decline of Alex and the improvement of those 2 players something that occurred yesterday or something? Many call Chohan currently the best 1P player in the world but he needs a spot. SVB? Well let’s say while he is talented at all games his 1P game is real average given his speed.
Then your next post, minutes later:
Asking for a spot if you’re playing a stronger player is called common sense. Asking for a spot against someone you’re even with may be considered “savvy” by some, and Nit logic by others. If you won’t get in the Box even against a player of equal skill level, then you don’t need a spot, you need a heart transplant.
If you weren't talking about SVB that's on you as it sure seemed like you were. Oh well I don't care much anyway.
 

skogstokig

AzB Silver Member
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Well you’re entitled to your opinion even if it is ill informed. You say today’s young talent have surpassed Alex, yet they won’t play him even at one pocket and ask for a spot. 🤔 cool story bro

alex is still 1pkt top dog in my book. until someone knocks him down.
 

fjk

AzB Silver Member
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Not a matter of “heard”. Chohan wanted 9-8 to play him last week. Shane asked for 10-8 at the Derby a few weeks ago. So is that decline of Alex and the improvement of those 2 players something that occurred yesterday or something? Many call Chohan currently the best 1P player in the world but he needs a spot. SVB? Well let’s say while he is talented at all games his 1P game is real average given his speed.
The two young, improving players I was referring to were Filler and Gorst. Also, asking for a spot and "needing" that spot are two very different things. If Alex ever matches up with Filler or Gorst (in any game), I'll let you take Alex and I'll take the other guy.
 

alphadog

AzB Silver Member
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I know he’s a hero to many here. As a 5 time US Open 9 ball winner he’s one of the best ever at that discipline. He’s a great banks player and 14:1 player. Not top 3 or 4 in one pocket though and to reiterate my original post, given his level/speed at other games, his 1P game is average in comparison. It’s not judgement, just a simple observation.
No he is top 3 or 4 in 1pkt also
 

Jimmorrison

AzB Silver Member
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I don’t have a problem with Tony or Alex woofing at Shane. I definitely don’t have a problem with Shane turning them down. He gets this stuff all the time, and has for years, probably every where he goes. I witnessed it myself, for three days running. The only time I’ve ever been in the same room. Why should he ever take anything but the best action? Or any action not dictated by him?
 

lfigueroa

AzB Silver Member
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The two young, improving players I was referring to were Filler and Gorst. Also, asking for a spot and "needing" that spot are two very different things. If Alex ever matches up with Filler or Gorst (in any game), I'll let you take Alex and I'll take the other guy.

Didn’t one of those two guys recently say they didn’t want to play Alex?

Something along the lines of: he puts me in too many places where I don’t know what to do.

Lou Figueroa
 

Scrunge19

Registered
Tony definitely moves better than Shane. But Shane runs balls better.
The recent success by people like Gorst/Filler, two guys not super experienced at the game, just proves that “knowing all the moves” isn’t the be all, end all advantage that a lot of old timers seem to think it is. The sheer ball pocketing ability those two guys have has proven itself to be more than enough to carry them through a game they haven’t learned the ins and outs of yet.

Just look at that match Tony played against Josh in Roy’s Basement. I do think Tony came in with a poor game plan in that match, but Josh was still able to beat him. All with practically no 1 pocket experience against one of the best 1 pocket specialists around.
 

fjk

AzB Silver Member
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Didn’t one of those two guys recently say they didn’t want to play Alex?

Something along the lines of: he puts me in too many places where I don’t know what to do.

Lou Figueroa
I believe you're thinking of Gorst. He made that comment quite a while ago and has since played a lot more one pocket. I would bet my house he believes he can beat Alex in any game, including one pocket.
 

BasementDweller

AzB Silver Member
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I believe you're thinking of Gorst. He made that comment quite a while ago and has since played a lot more one pocket. I would bet my house he believes he can beat Alex in any game, including one pocket.
Alex is one of my all-time favorites, but the truth is - he hasn't been in top form for several years. I can't recall the last really clean match he's played. I think he's still capable, he probably just hasn't had the drive. Maybe with Matchroom pouring money into the game he'll get locked in again and make another run.
 

fjk

AzB Silver Member
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Well you’re entitled to your opinion even if it is ill informed. You say today’s young talent have surpassed Alex, yet they won’t play him even at one pocket and ask for a spot. 🤔 cool story bro
This match was two years ago. It wasn't close (24 balls to 8). Since that match Gorst has played a lot of one pocket. Call me crazy, but my money would be on Gorst all day long over Alex.

 

lfigueroa

AzB Silver Member
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I believe you're thinking of Gorst. He made that comment quite a while ago and has since played a lot more one pocket. I would bet my house he believes he can beat Alex in any game, including one pocket.

OK, just couldn’t remember who said it.

Lou Figueroa
 

pt109

WO double hemlock
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This is me looking for somebody who is making a living betting against Shane.
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