Tony Chohan vs Dennis Orcullo
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Let's put it this way. Jay has the match with Tony at being 5 games or closer. I say the with a shot clock, it would likely be closer yet. 5 games is fairly close to begin with. Are you disagreeing with this?
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With a 1 minute shot clock and the penalty being a foul (ball) I might bet a few hundo on Tony if I see a line that appeals. Dennis does not play anywhere near a normal one pocket pace. He'd face major steam in any room across the country for his pace of play if he wasn't a top gun. Just like he'd face major steam in most rooms for welching on any preset wager like he did with Rob Melrose a few years back.
Tony and Scott play close to even...
Scott did NOT play his full game in the DO match, anyone who thinks that doesn't know Scott's game.
The question is not whether T-Rex is the favorite or the underdog, the question is whether he'll bring his A game or not. If he does bring his A game even if DO does also, he could still win. If Dennis doesn't bring his A game this time around (less likely, that's the biggest difference between the top 10 players versus the other top players, how often they bring their best game) then Tony would be the favorite IMO.
So again, all the people talking about Tony not having a chance just don't know his one hole game. DO might run away with it, or Tony might take it. It really depends on who plays closest to their best game.
Jaden
Scott did NOT play his full game in the DO match, anyone who thinks that doesn't know Scott's game.
The question is not whether T-Rex is the favorite or the underdog, the question is whether he'll bring his A game or not. If he does bring his A game even if DO does also, he could still win. If Dennis doesn't bring his A game this time around (less likely, that's the biggest difference between the top 10 players versus the other top players, how often they bring their best game) then Tony would be the favorite IMO.
So again, all the people talking about Tony not having a chance just don't know his one hole game. DO might run away with it, or Tony might take it. It really depends on who plays closest to their best game.
Jaden
What I noticed with the Scott match was that I believe that Scott intentionally changed his super aggressive style -- as he indicated in his pre-match interview.
Instead of being aggressive at all times, he took the strategy of trying to play ultra-defensive and to keep Dennis off the shot -- which didn't turn out too well, since Dennis started many runs with long, straight-back banks -- a shot that Scott willingly gave him.
Scott would have done better IMO if he played aggressive -- always trying to get a ball in play near his pocket, and if he went for as many 8 and outs that he could -- which to me, is his "normal" style.
If Tony changes his style to be more defensive, I think that Dennis will beat him too.
Your right, but there is a point where they are too tight to run out for any player, and this takes it's toll on ones mental game.
Another point, when I hear 4 1/8 pocket, what does that really mean to you?
To me it means nothing till I play on that bastard.
I remember reading DO was getting headaches after the first day of play, thinking too much. He then approached the remaining days of play more relaxed.
Also, Jay talking about play conditions and home court advantage, VERY strong is this game of pool. Many a great player has been beaten by the conditions. Remember Earl Sniping SVB on the Ten Footer a few years back
. If anyone knows this situation from a personal and professional point of view, my pick on who's gonna win, the guy with the Hot Tub. .
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Of course scott didnt play 'his game'. 'His game' is spotting a weaker player. Someone that can't hit back.
Tony is going to find the same.
Tony is going to find the same.
Dennis got beat twice by Billy Thorpe this week at the Scotty Townsend event.
I know that was only two races to 4 and not a long race like Tony and Dennis will be playing but i think that shows you can have success against Dennis playing a super aggressive fast and loose offensive style with great banking ability same style as Tony plays.
I think Dennis and Tony will be a great match up and very close in the end great to see two top guys get in the grease and battle it out if you like one pocket this will be one you wont want to miss.
I know that was only two races to 4 and not a long race like Tony and Dennis will be playing but i think that shows you can have success against Dennis playing a super aggressive fast and loose offensive style with great banking ability same style as Tony plays.
I think Dennis and Tony will be a great match up and very close in the end great to see two top guys get in the grease and battle it out if you like one pocket this will be one you wont want to miss.
Many ppl saying it will be close, but no one is betting, even with getting odds. That's what this all boils down to. The rest is just opinions.
Funny no one is offering games on the wire!
Kd
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For those who think Dennis is the nuts, let me say that in One Pocket the style you play has a lot to do with the outcome. These two have very similar styles. They are like boxers who like to throw punches and also to get punched to find out if they can "take the punch." Tony will absolutely bank better than Scott did against Dennis. That was the worst show of banking by a great player I have ever seen. And, Tony pockets balls better than Scott does. Tony will not lose game after game being up 6/0 or 7/2 like Scott did. He will shoot at his hole without reservation. Watch out for those who think this is a walkover by Dennis. I do think he is the better player right now but Tony will make a showing for himself.
I watched much of the last match with Dennis and Scott. We all know that Dennis can shoot straighter than almost any human, but I was watching his cue ball. After the first day, he had the cue ball on a string almost 99.9% of the time. He had Scott stuck on the rail or in the stack quite a few times.
Everybody who says that Dennis will be out-moved, well....think again.
What was the pocket size in Beloit? 41/4 or 41/8? I know they were smaller than 4.5, like a normal pro cut Diamond.
My first thoughts on this match was that Tony was going to get 9/8. I think that is what he needs.
This match being played even, I would have to bet on Dennis.
It's not a race to 5 or even 7, this will be a long grind. Dennis didn't make very many mistakes against Scott and I doubt he makes very many against Tony. I'm giving Dennis the nod in this one. It may be a bit closer than the 40/29 clubbing of Scott, but I doubt Tony gets to 34, JMHO.
Everybody who says that Dennis will be out-moved, well....think again.
What was the pocket size in Beloit? 41/4 or 41/8? I know they were smaller than 4.5, like a normal pro cut Diamond.
My first thoughts on this match was that Tony was going to get 9/8. I think that is what he needs.
This match being played even, I would have to bet on Dennis.
It's not a race to 5 or even 7, this will be a long grind. Dennis didn't make very many mistakes against Scott and I doubt he makes very many against Tony. I'm giving Dennis the nod in this one. It may be a bit closer than the 40/29 clubbing of Scott, but I doubt Tony gets to 34, JMHO.
By the way - the pockets at California Billiards will be 4-1/8", and it will be a 'Blue Label' Diamond 9 footer.
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Frost/Dennis match was 4 1/4".
Thanks, I'll find that out before i draft the official press on this (Apr 15th). I'm sure most of the sweaters and action hunters will want to know all the grizzly details of this match before it takes place. I know it'll be Simonis 860, that's for sure. As to it's 'age', I will bring it up with Chris on my punchlist of discussion items.