Trent Cowgill - THIEF THIEF THIEF

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Please don't worry about me TRENT.... I will be fine. I have nothing to hide. I pay IN FULL and ON TIME...........(oh yeah when was the cue promised to be done again?).... You forgot to tell everyone that tidbit........oh and don't forget about how you pretended like the cue couldn't be fixed at all....... oh and how you refused to send it to me right off the bat, and started offering some wood you got laying around your shop...... If I wanted your wood used in MY cue I wouldn't have sent you the koa. You rememeber that right? MY property...that belongs to ME.
 
Trent you try to prove your point like a liberal. I am off this week so I have been on here more. I don't visit the forum much because of guys like you. My blood pressure can't take it. As far as about law yes i know enough....I have to. Your lawyer did not advise you of that. A friend probably told you that over a beer. I hate to say this but an email is a very weak release in court. I want you to think about this for a moment. I chose to respond to this thread because I don't like you. Your just like all the other low lifes that come and go. Your just like brianna. I got a bad vibe from you when two years ago you were advertising for Anthony Gotti whom has been a scammer and rip off artist on cue machines all along. You were not building cues then but claiming you were gathering wood. In fact your first cue was not completed until about two years ago, if that. You continually start problems and attack people on here and even resort to phone calls with bad language to bully those you think you can. You have been warned by the mods more times than anyone I know on this forum but I don't get on here much so take that with a grain of salt. You insult people like blue hog whom I have never seen a negative post and is a constructive member of this forum. You have not shown yourself to be a stand up guy but a low life make a dollar and run kind of fellow. You have conned this guy meridian and refuse to make it right. The amount of money is small and an easy fix. Send the butt of the cue and refund his money. Or send the cue no questions asked like he asked. I for one think its self evident what kind of cue maker you are when you can't even fix the cue. Its a simple fix and just because you think glue doesn't stick doesn't mean thats true. There are alot of glues you could use and construction techniques that could repair this cue. I would be ashamed if I were in your boat and had not fixed the cue the very same day I discovered the rattle. You have time your building another cue and advertising it on jimbo's. Long story short you will not be here selling cues long. You will be just like guys like brianna and eddie wheat. And when your gone and forgotten those of use who take cue building and customer service seriously will still be here creating art and tools of the game we all love so much. So all the bad replies you can write wont matter in the end because I don't care. Your done here.
 
Man this Trent Cowgill guy is a lowlife.

Looking at those emails he's definitely trying to pull some shenanigans by making you agree to some ambiguous statements that basically allow him to ship you a wet turd and get away with it.

I can't believe he had the audacity to even declare himself a cue maker.
 
i have an idea that might resolve this
trent sends the cue to an escrow
who verifies/describes its condition
you accept the condition of the cue (if its in an acceptable condition to you) and sign a release
escrow person mails you the cue

you get your cue back
trent gets his release
everyone is still unhappy
life goes on

whatta you think??
p.s. i think it never should have gotten to this stage
 
After all this foolishness, in public for the world to see, you need a release saying that the owner won't come after you because its defective?

Everyone knows it rattles.

Send him his cue, and get on with life.
 
Trent, I don't think you need anything more than this thread as proof that he doesn't care what condition the cue is in. I feel it has more than enough content to absolve you of any future issues.

You are worried about your reputation by sending out a cue that has the buzz but I think this thread has done far more damage than a cue will ever do. The longer you hold it, the worse it gets.

Send the cue back, pick yourself up by your bootstraps, and forge on forward.
 
First I have read all the related posts, Simply put you made a cue that was defective and you are willing to let it out of you shop ?!!! Well NOTHING leaves my shop that isnt up to speed, and if you scew the pooch, especially with someone else's materials, man up say you had a problem and build another cue.

The fact you just posted again that ,you wanted an email confirming the buyer knows its defective and will take posession, is outrageous !!

Its hard enough selling cues right now, finding the right buyer and/or getting a reasonable price, being the economy the way it is, but now you go and offer to send a defective cue ? WTF !! Seriously !!

I see why new cue makers have a harder time as deals like this that make it to the forums, some that shouldnt to be fair, cast newer makers in a bad light and people are not as trusting, sad.

Dont play with others wood unless you can finish the job and do it right !! :deadhorse::thud:
 
maybe in Canada they dont teach you how to read A.
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That would be EH! Yes, I speak like that. I also say, ya'll too.

I have a couple of lathes Trent. I have never claimed to be a cue maker, just a repairman, and have always admitted to be still in the learning stages of that as well. There are many repairs that I have not had the opportunity to work on as of yet. Until that happens, I cannot even admit to being a 100% repairman either. See, that wasn't hard to admit in front of the entire AZ Community.

Do I dream of building cues? Yes, someday. I see pics of new makers cues and I admire and give compliments on them.

I guess I make quite a few smart a ss comments on here. I would rather try and make people laugh rather than have threads like this started in my name.

You should be ashamed of how you act and treat other cue makers Trent.
Someone asks a question and granted you try and help. When another maker suggests an alternative way, you get all defensive like they are trying to step on your sensitive little toes and DIS you. And then the arguments and fights begin.

Comments and suggestions from makers that have a proven track record and tens of years more experience than you.

You, are one of the reasons that cue makers leave the forum.

The difference between you and I Trent. I have an open opportunity to, and have been invited to call many respected makers to ask questions anytime I wish. I appreciate that. I doubt that you can say that any longer.
 
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TRENT....
Why would I acknowledge the WHOLE cue as defective when BOTH of those shafts were made from YOUR materials.......There's NO stabilized wood in any of those shafts. Those shafts should have matching ring work and roll straight. They should be perfect...but you want me to acknowledge them as "defective"........

Pretty obvious what you have planned........... :rolleyes:
 
Larry, you could probably use a beer or two. We're in the same neck of the woods. The first round is on me!

Good luck in your battle with the beast.




Rick
 
Another black eye for pool,,,,,,,,:angry:

Thats why using an Escrow service like Marcus offers is priceless,,,,,,!
 
rickdf said:
Larry, you could probably use a beer or two. We're in the same neck of the woods. The first round is on me!

Good luck in your battle with the beast.




Rick
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I am in Eden Prairie, Rick....... That sounds fun.....any time. You have my email........hahahaha (It's all over the thread)
 
Trent, I've read all this mess and imo it's pretty shameful how you've handled this situation. Apparently your words and actions have left Larry in a state of complete and utter distrust. The ball is totally in your court right now (yours alone) to salvage what you can of his trust....and everyone else's here btw.

Best of luck.
Sean
 
Trent said:
Cue has only been completed for a little over a week or 2, and no i dont have his mailing address.
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Larry,

He claims he doesn't have your address. E-mail, Private Message, and post it here on this thread and he will surely have it and there will be no reason for him not to ship your cue.

Also, state publicly both in your e-mails/PM's to him and on this thread that you actually PREFER a cue that has a rattle in it. Then it will fit the criteria of your specs/liking and therefore cannot be deemed as defective. Then, there would be no reason to not ship the cue.

I personally don't think he ever intends to ship the cue. I found it a bit odd that he took it to a poolroom and showed it to several people. If he's concerned about his cuebuilding reputation going to the shitter over a defective cue, why take it around showing it to people???

Maniac (meets/recieves his custom cues in person)
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
That would be EH! Yes, I speak like that. I also say, ya'll too.
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We have quite a bit in common with our brothers way up north in the Yukon.
For instance how do you think the Eskimo's are going to do this year.
I think that if they get their kicking game together they could be a force.
The Lions will be tough as usual.
How did the Roughriders do in the CFL draft?

Check this out
No "wisecracks" please
We're talking about John Wayne here, have some respect

http://youtu.be/b3tAJS0wpRY
 
putt-putt44 said:
Another black eye for pool,,,,,,,,:angry:

Thats why using an Escrow service like Marcus offers is priceless,,,,,,!
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On a new cue build?


That seems a little excessive to me.


The cuemaker should send the cue to the buyer. If he does that, another thread dies. And hopefully gets locked. Too many people love to edit their posts.

The AZ membership needs this thread for future dealings with this cuemaker. In my opinion, he's acting childish.


Send the cue back and be done...


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Trent, did your attorney advise you that you should have had the buyer sign a release prior to making the cue that you were not responsible for damages to his property "his wood"? Gee, in the abscence of that one could advise Larry to sue you for damages to his wood. The
Public comments by you would turn the case alone. If I were you I would
Be sending this cue back in a hurry and hope
He doesn't take action. It doesn't sound like you could afford the hassle. Smarten up quick
 
Maniac said:
Larry,

He claims he doesn't have your address. E-mail, Private Message, and post it here on this thread and he will surely have it and there will be no reason for him not to ship your cue.

Also, state publicly both in your e-mails/PM's to him and on this thread that you actually PREFER a cue that has a rattle in it. Then it will fit the criteria of your specs/liking and therefore cannot be deemed as defective. Then, there would be no reason to not ship the cue.

I personally don't think he ever intends to ship the cue. I found it a bit odd that he took it to a poolroom and showed it to several people. If he's concerned about his cuebuilding reputation going to the shitter over a defective cue, why take it around showing it to people???

Maniac (meets/recieves his custom cues in person)
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Another stall tactic...... I have emailed it twice now, and it's also on BOTH of his payments from PAYPAL.
 
to compton well your dumb as the day is long i was helping anthony gotti out after i had already built quite a few cues and had 2 diffrent hightower lathes. and had done conversions previously. Once again you know nothing about me or what i have done, you just think you do.

as far as selling cues on here, well that will no longer happen I dont want to have anything else to do with this place and the buyers here.

I dont know what power you all think you have to tell me what to do and how to operate, good luck.

And russel thats how all this started i apoligized said it was gaffed up and he flew off the handle. I didnt want this cue to leave thats what started the whole deal. i offered him all his money back (a whole 130 bucks, his deposit) in my second email along with a free cue after i move and send him the only comparable wood i had in my shop to make it up to him.

you people act as tho i hit larry up one day and said "hey im keeping the cue **** you, you get nothing." well thats not how it went. it wasnt until a rash of about 5 emails in the same day of nothing but name calling and threats that i got mad on here. even after the first and second email i still resonded nicely and said id like to work this out.

No i didnt offer to fix it, can it be fixed sure. and if hes willing to wait then ill fix it and ship it.

I still dont have your address larry and until then I cant send anything so post it publicly so I can send it to you.

i dont know how many times i have to say this the cue butt will be in new condition not beat up not destroyed just as pictured, shinny and new.

Ive asked for this repeatedly.

theres no rep to salvage here, im not trying to save face and im not going to fold on this until i have a address what can i do?
 
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